Monkeyb00y Report post Posted February 23, 2009 Is it me or is the success rate for EFE's (or any enriched essences) set at 0% now. I've been doing a project that has involved about 50k FE's and we are at 0 EFEs between everyone. I've also been harvesting TONS of flowers, minerals & ore, and also 0 stones. The last time I made an enriched essence was around June of 2008 (an EME), and the last time I got a stone was a serpent stone around November 2008. Please reply with some insight or if I'm just not making enough essence or harvesting enough? Thanks. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khalai Report post Posted February 23, 2009 (edited) 1 EFE after 32k FEs. Rates are adjusted to total ingame amount of them. Also no stone after 250k harvestables, then serpent and enrichment in one evening. Luck with low probabilities combined Note: Also, some people expect to have some "right" on enriched essence or a stone after certain amount of mixed/harvested. There is no such thing, only luck. Some have more, some have less, there is nothing more to it I am afraid. Edited February 23, 2009 by Khalai Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Monkeyb00y Report post Posted February 23, 2009 (edited) Well, I do understand the percentages & luck is all it's about. But I wasn't sure if it's been brought down to 0% because as a whole, my friends & I haven't seen anything this whole time. Like 3 weeks so far. I guess it's the same way with NMT capes in game then. Thanks for the clarification. Edited February 23, 2009 by Monkeyb00y Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eugenia Report post Posted February 23, 2009 Hi Forgive my English: This sort of bad luck has lasted too long, it is time again to be more lucky. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jayim_Duinara Report post Posted February 24, 2009 Hello all, I typically have TERRIBLE luck. I am the prime example of Murphy's law. As such, I can count on one hand the number of stones that I have found since I started playing 2-3 years ago. Then just last week, I got a binding stone. As soon as I started harvesting again, I got a serpent stone. I practically danced around the room. Oh wait... actually I did... The_Saxman (Jayim_Duinara) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruella Report post Posted February 24, 2009 Rates are adjusted to total ingame amount of them. The lower chance to get one, the bigger desire to hoard. If rare goods are hard to get, and in the same time they are absolutely necessary to progress, people tend to save them for a future use rather than use up or sell. Luck brings an element of uncertainty, we are never sure when we get another one, thus when we finally do, we keep it. That increases total amount in game, causing the rate to be adjusted down ..... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zamirah Report post Posted February 24, 2009 The counter I have now is for the last 2 months and I have : FE - 65300 - 10 EFEs MagE - 10299 - 2 EMEs DE - 2686 - 8 EDEs WE - 9924 - 2 EWEs At the same time 15 stones - from 736k harvested ore/minerals/flowers. But lately not as many as xmas/newyear-time. A lot of it is luck, I have another char and it has only got 1 stone ever - a binding the first day they were in game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raz Report post Posted February 24, 2009 Only ever found 2 attribute stones - phys & coord - within the same load of 800 mums! Total of 500k+ harvests since they were introduced Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruella Report post Posted February 24, 2009 (edited) I have a lot of luck for attribute stones and other minor ones (mostly enrichment and serpent) - on this counter 27 stones from 1 989 000 harvestables. I have terrible luck for enriched essences - I have never made EME for instance while mixing magic essences, all I have made were from enrichment stones. However, I have made one efe today, soon after posting in this thread this morning lol With bad make rare astro btw - go figure... Edited February 24, 2009 by Cruella Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Silvatica Report post Posted February 24, 2009 (edited) The counter I have now is for the last 2 months and I have :FE - 65300 - 10 EFEs MagE - 10299 - 2 EMEs DE - 2686 - 8 EDEs WE - 9924 - 2 EWEs FE 64K - 0 EFE MagE 16K - 1 EME DE 7.6K - 10 EDE WE 20K - 2 EWE You are much much much more lucky then me. Edited February 24, 2009 by Silvatica Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chosen Report post Posted February 24, 2009 Zami, with the rates you posted there, it seems you were using Arti Cloak too? Maybe a little different but my PK Server logs are: 25k Fire Essence - 5 EFE 4k Life Essences - 4 ELE 5k Death Essence - 10 EDE 10k Water Essence - 0 EWE 5k Magic Essence - 4 EME (I was using a arti cape, for them all apart from the Magic Essences). As for rare stones.. I've not found much.. And I don't want too add up all my counters of 9 accounts to work it out. ^^ But on the main server I've never found a Removal Stone. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zamirah Report post Posted February 24, 2009 Zami, with the rates you posted there, it seems you were using Arti Cloak too? No I did not. For some reason have this char had a lot of luck from I started playing harving/alcing, but bad luck manu/pot. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
circe Report post Posted February 24, 2009 I guess finding stones & making enriched essences all depends on luck & astro 304k+ FEs & 19 EFEs 3308 MEs & 1 EME & i do wear the arti, as for stones...2 nexus removals found (while harvesting flowers with astro maxed out) 2 serpent stones, 2 binding, a rosto, vitality & enrichment out of 610k+ harvested Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peach Report post Posted February 24, 2009 i once got 5 EFEs in 10k FEs then not a single one in over 50k guess it is luck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PaulB Report post Posted February 26, 2009 Radu said in another post about this that he, at times, set the chance to make EFE's too 0. So you could make over 1 million FEs and still not get a single one due to this... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zamirah Report post Posted February 26, 2009 Radu said in another post about this that he, at times, set the chance to make EFE's too 0. So you could make over 1 million FEs and still not get a single one due to this... Yes and the question was, if we got any atm and as we do, it seem that it's not 0 atm. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruella Report post Posted February 26, 2009 Certainly it is not, got another one yesterday morning Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Burn Report post Posted February 26, 2009 Got an EFE yesterday also. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Talixim Report post Posted March 3, 2009 Just finished 10k MEs and got 5 EMEs \o/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
HereticEast Report post Posted March 9, 2009 i got 1 EFE from 560 FEs. at first i thought it would be like 1 out of every 170 (i don't know why i thought this) and i got 1 after 135. this confirmed it... i was like why are they so expensive? i was just going for an EFE too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chosen Report post Posted March 9, 2009 I've made an EFE since the server update too. :x Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DinkyDee Report post Posted March 9, 2009 I've made an EFE since the server update too. :x I made 2 in a batch of 5k FE. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
gaborec Report post Posted March 9, 2009 6 ELEs for 6k LEs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dushan Report post Posted March 9, 2009 i made 100 fe's today and got efe Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raz Report post Posted March 9, 2009 I made a batch of 1600 fe, 3 of which came out enriched. (With arti cloak on) Checked my astro - heavily red! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites