Ateh Report post Posted August 23, 2006 I propose a complete boycott of all services to and from the PKG guild, why should we all suffer in silence as these bunch of cowards goes around scamming everyone if you have an honourable bone in your body you will see where im coming from , as guilds go we cannot allways fight with our swords, but we can fight with our minds !!! its a simple proposal BUY NOTHING FROM THEM SELL NOTHING TO THEM easy ! please spread the word of this boycott idea ! we can make the game intolerable for them as they are trying to do for the rest of us !!! COME ON EVERYBODY SPREAD THE WORD BOYCOTT THE BAD GUILDS !!!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ornitorrinco Report post Posted August 23, 2006 It doesn't work. Earlier this year *CO* was EL's big devil and lots of other guilds wanted to boycott them. Still some players of these guilds would deal with them because they could afford to pay a bit more than market average for the items they wanted. Besides of that a lot of *CO* members were/are old time players, and they had friends to help them. So, no matter how outlaw you are, if you have money and/or friends, boycotts will hardly affect you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eublepharis Report post Posted August 23, 2006 So, no matter how outlaw you are, if you have money and/or friends, boycotts will hardly affect you. Totally agree. Not to mention that most people will not care unless they feel the pain themselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scarr Report post Posted August 23, 2006 newb ever heard of alt chars ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sithicus Report post Posted August 23, 2006 Boycotts wont work, not even against iran does it work, how would it work in EL? If I was PO'd enough to consider action against EBUL (just throwing them on one heap ), this is how i'd do it: get a few guilds buying ALL rost stones on the market at 15k or below... or 16k, 17k, 18k... whatever is appropriate. they will go through the roof soon enough. If they start mining like crazy, you lose a little bit of GC but who cares. Production guilds have money... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lorck Report post Posted August 23, 2006 GG sithicus, but they buy their rostogols on the shop. And ye, boycotts does not works, specially because of alt chars, as scarr said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sithicus Report post Posted August 23, 2006 ??? the shop doesn't show rostogol afaik... how much do they cost? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lorck Report post Posted August 23, 2006 (edited) It used to be $5 USD each, if i remember correctly, dunno if the price changed or something. Pm Entropy on forum for more details about buying rostogols. Edited August 23, 2006 by Lorck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Evalin Report post Posted August 23, 2006 There's no such thing as an "ebul pker". People just cry because they get killed when they go into a pk map. Hey, if you don't want to get pk'd... don't go into a pk map. There's really no use in going to pk maps as most resources are EASILY found in peaceful maps. Along those lines, this game is extremely scam friendly as well, meaning the only way you can get scammed is if you let yourself be. Maybe I wouldn't be posting this if you'd actually post some relevant information as to how pkg and other "ebul guilds" are as you claim. You just out and posted "I propose a complete boycott of all services to and from the PKG guild, why should we all suffer in silence as these bunch of cowards goes around scamming everyone" and failed at closing the bold command at that Outside the lack of any information to "rally the troops", like those before me have already stated, boycott does not work. There are plenty of self sufficient guilds out there, with a good manu/craft/everything skill within them. Even without being self sufficient, good luck in convincing all of EL to not deal with a particular guild. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mufossa Report post Posted August 24, 2006 I propose a complete boycott of all services to and from the PKG guild, why should we all suffer in silence as these bunch of cowards goes around scamming everyone if you have an honourable bone in your body you will see where im coming from , as guilds go we cannot allways fight with our swords, but we can fight with our minds !!! its a simple proposal BUY NOTHING FROM THEM SELL NOTHING TO THEM easy ! please spread the word of this boycott idea ! we can make the game intolerable for them as they are trying to do for the rest of us !!! COME ON EVERYBODY SPREAD THE WORD BOYCOTT THE BAD GUILDS !!!!!! LOL think it over moron ..if not for pkers like us who will buy essences and potions? they would serve no purpose..they are mainly used for pk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!..and also manuable armor and swords they are used for pk ...you need pkers or you have no purpose Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Happy_G Report post Posted August 25, 2006 i agree with mufossa, but pots and essences r used while training a/d, but training a/d is normally for PK reasons, so yyeah, we need them. your free to not sell to whomever you dont want to sell to tho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest stalag Report post Posted August 25, 2006 but training a/d is normally for PK reasons not real, more then half of top 50 a/d dosent pk or does it only in rare/special ocasions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lorck Report post Posted August 25, 2006 (edited) You learnt how to count in the same scool of cycloonx? I counted many more people who go onto pk maps regularly on the rank of attack, and there are like 3 people or so who changed name and therefore are not really chars on the rank of attack (i excluded those on my count up). People who said to me that they are non-pkers by nature by nature and will try to avoid pk: Azrakan_Falcon, Baddude, TheVoice, Ziara (she pk sometimes, attacked me, etc), mortsllehm, panzerfaust, gurgeh, enius (included his name because he is on a pacifist guild). Not many people if you ask me. Edited August 25, 2006 by Lorck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaoogie Report post Posted August 25, 2006 not true, 20 of them are training/pvping, and the other 10 are walking around the usual pk maps on c1 and c2 :> and 20 are sleeping Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lorck Report post Posted August 25, 2006 (edited) Oh, you will try to say some bullshit like "oh, we are not a pk guild or something". Man, if you go to pk maps and attack someone, you are a pker, like it or not. Edited August 25, 2006 by Lorck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chaoogie Report post Posted August 25, 2006 (edited) uhh lorck i was talking to stalag about the top 50 :> dunno how you took what i said to mean anything having to do with your post :>\ #edit : meaning the top 50 thats why the numbers are 20/10/20 he said about the top 50 not pking much Edited August 25, 2006 by chaoogie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lorck Report post Posted August 26, 2006 (edited) Ye, some people left game, so they are not pking very much. But that does not mean that they are pacifists or something. And plz point me someone who is trully a pacifist and who is not on my list above. EDIT: And his point was many people dont train a/d for pk. While i agree its true, its not apply for 80%+ of the top 50. Sure, some people dont play and therefore does not improve their a/d to win on pk, but when they played, they did. Edited August 26, 2006 by Lorck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scarr Report post Posted August 26, 2006 enius pks.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atlantis Report post Posted August 26, 2006 Used to, he is iin Riva now Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eXone Report post Posted August 26, 2006 you need pkers or you have no purpose Ateh was talking English as I remember. He was refering to PKers like you who kill unarmed noobs, or like PKers who flee from toomass eventhough he has a lower level than you do.(That was a laugh lmao)A scum is a scum no matter what lvl he is. In addition to your likes, he was refering also to char buyers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Infamous Report post Posted August 26, 2006 i feel your pain ateh ;'/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arnieman Report post Posted August 27, 2006 I will say this - boycotts and strikes can work as well here in EL as they do in RL - you don't need to cut off totally someone's supply line to make them feel the pinch, just restrict it to the point they want to deal. However, it takes determination, unity of adherents to the common goal, and organization. I don't see any plan for organization, so that appears lacking. I don't hear any comments from supporters of this boycott, so I either have to assume that this is lacking, or is only succeeding because of a very limited number of people involved. As for determination, I can't really say... That said, I don't believe AID has an offical stance on this boycott at this time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vormavius Report post Posted August 28, 2006 I think training requires much more esses than pking Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lorck Report post Posted August 28, 2006 Ye, but some people who train a lot (ie, uses lots of essences) does it to get pk advantages. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Innovinril Report post Posted August 29, 2006 newb ever heard of alt chars ? what good is an alt character when you'll get banned if you have contact between 2 of your own accounts? I think it is a major problem the authority has in this game if they don't establish the cheaters from the good players. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites