The_Piper Report post Posted October 24, 2008 I killed a red snake today and got poisoned, of course. But there was no message, like you get from other creatures, when they do something special ("you got mana burned by the black bear", "you are paralized for 3 rounds by the large spider", etc). So i suggest that the server sends too a message when you get poisoned by a red snake. Piper Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fryslan Report post Posted October 24, 2008 And what about skunks? They can posion too ~Fry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Airakose Report post Posted October 24, 2008 Yes, please! I was confused the first time I killed a red snake and my health kept going down after it died... until I noticed the green drop in the lower-left of my screen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kalix Report post Posted October 24, 2008 That only makes sense... why confuse people? I was getting the skins for def god quest and i didnt know i got poisoned.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torg Report post Posted October 25, 2008 So i suggest that the server sends too a message when you get poisoned by a red snake. I was confused the first time I killed a red snake and my health kept going down after it died... until I noticed the green drop in the lower-left of my screen. The client knows that you have been poisoned (it shows the symbol in the corner), so rather than adding extra traffic from the server, it would be better to just trigger a message in the client. That said, part of the reason for showing little icons in the corner (and whatever) is to try to reduce the spammyness of the client. I'm not sure adding extra messages is necessary, maybe just something to bring your attention to the icon (make it brighter or have it flash or something) instead?? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aislinn Report post Posted October 25, 2008 That said, part of the reason for showing little icons in the corner (and whatever) is to try to reduce the spammyness of the client. I'm not sure adding extra messages is necessary, maybe just something to bring your attention to the icon (make it brighter or have it flash or something) instead?? Sorta on topic with this, I have always wondered if it was possible to have 1 poison drop icon per time poisoned. So for example, if you get poisoned by two red mushrooms in a row, it shows 2 drops. I never thought of it for snakes, but it would be good for snake, spider, and skunk poisonings too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torg Report post Posted October 25, 2008 Sorta on topic with this, I have always wondered if it was possible to have 1 poison drop icon per time poisoned. So for example, if you get poisoned by two red mushrooms in a row, it shows 2 drops. I never thought of it for snakes, but it would be good for snake, spider, and skunk poisonings too. Hmmm.... I don't remember the exact implementation. If it is done as a "buff", that's basically a flag that is sent to the client to say "You have had this done..." and then a message to say "You are now clear", then no, because I would assume that if you already have the poison flag set, then it wouldn't resend it. However... if they are sent as specific individual messages, with corresponding turn off messages for each occasion then sure, it should be totally possible to show an additional "icon" for each occurrence. I'll take a look at these if I get motivated (and remember). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CoLoR Report post Posted October 25, 2008 Nice idea Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fryslan Report post Posted October 25, 2008 That said, part of the reason for showing little icons in the corner (and whatever) is to try to reduce the spammyness of the client. I'm not sure adding extra messages is necessary, maybe just something to bring your attention to the icon (make it brighter or have it flash or something) instead?? Sorta on topic with this, I have always wondered if it was possible to have 1 poison drop icon per time poisoned. So for example, if you get poisoned by two red mushrooms in a row, it shows 2 drops. I never thought of it for snakes, but it would be good for snake, spider, and skunk poisonings too. Spider can poison you? Or thats a new suggestion? ^^ ~Fry Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Alberich Report post Posted October 25, 2008 The client knows that you have been poisoned (it shows the symbol in the corner), so rather than adding extra traffic from the server, it would be better to just trigger a message in the client. That said, part of the reason for showing little icons in the corner (and whatever) is to try to reduce the spammyness of the client. I'm not sure adding extra messages is necessary, maybe just something to bring your attention to the icon (make it brighter or have it flash or something) instead?? The traffic from such a message would be minimal, red snake or skunk trainers are quite rare. I guess there would be less than 50 messages per day. It's not worth implementing in the client. And it would give me a good laugh if I see someone getting poisoned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Airakose Report post Posted October 25, 2008 The traffic from such a message would be minimal, red snake or skunk trainers are quite rare. I guess there would be less than 50 messages per day.It's not worth implementing in the client. And it would give me a good laugh if I see someone getting poisoned. Yes, but how many people use toadstools and get poisoned at storage? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Affliction Report post Posted October 25, 2008 The traffic from such a message would be minimal, red snake or skunk trainers are quite rare. I guess there would be less than 50 messages per day.It's not worth implementing in the client. And it would give me a good laugh if I see someone getting poisoned. Yes, but how many people use toadstools and get poisoned at storage? You already get a poison message for toadstools.. so nothing would change there.. and add 50 or so more messages being sent per day.. and its not a big difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarkenedAuras Report post Posted November 4, 2008 not sure if it would be possible but maybe if you get poisoned your entire character could turn to a shade of green or big bold letters PS or POIS could appear above your head to warn you... I automatically assume if nothing's around or whatever is "dead" and I'm losing health I was poisoned by it...but a message other then the little green drop would be helpful Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torg Report post Posted November 5, 2008 not sure if it would be possible but maybe if you get poisoned your entire character could turn to a shade of green or big bold letters PS or POIS could appear above your head to warn you... A year or so back someone provided a patch for the client that turned the window green and slightly out of focus iirc. It was a cool idea, but a little excessive I think. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torg Report post Posted November 11, 2008 Sorta on topic with this, I have always wondered if it was possible to have 1 poison drop icon per time poisoned. So for example, if you get poisoned by two red mushrooms in a row, it shows 2 drops. Having talked to Ent, he doesn't think it particularly worthwhile because different forms of getting poisoned have different effects, so it wouldn't be accurate having a number of icons for each case of being poisoned. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RotationZ Report post Posted November 11, 2008 and adding a number inside the poison drop for how much health decrease the next poison hit will deal? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
BloodSucker Report post Posted November 11, 2008 Speaking about the poison: harvesting poison ivy could have few % chance to poison the harvester. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aislinn Report post Posted November 11, 2008 Sorta on topic with this, I have always wondered if it was possible to have 1 poison drop icon per time poisoned. So for example, if you get poisoned by two red mushrooms in a row, it shows 2 drops. Having talked to Ent, he doesn't think it particularly worthwhile because different forms of getting poisoned have different effects, so it wouldn't be accurate having a number of icons for each case of being poisoned. It seemed worthwhile to me, not to know an exact amount of damage, but to see how bad the cumulative effects will be. I expect if somebody is killing snakes or eating toadstools, they have a general idea already what to expect, the multiple drops will just help you keep track of how many times in a row you were poisoned so you can plan accordingly.Oh well Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torg Report post Posted November 11, 2008 It seemed worthwhile to me, not to know an exact amount of damage, but to see how bad the cumulative effects will be. I expect if somebody is killing snakes or eating toadstools, they have a general idea already what to expect, the multiple drops will just help you keep track of how many times in a row you were poisoned so you can plan accordingly. I agree entirely. The example that Ent provided was that the level of poison depends on the magic level of a caster, so it changes depending on who is attacking you. This of course extends to every other case of poison in the game. However, I would think that what you would likely be doing would be repetitive, and hence having an icon for each case of poisoning whilst not necessarily being exactly accurate (which it never was intended to be anyway), it would be helpful in a very general way. I asked him about this just before he went to bed, so I intend on having another chat about it again at a more reasonable time. We'll see what happens. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites