Rayna Report post Posted May 3, 2008 Oh duh! ty vy much. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roja Report post Posted May 3, 2008 Ok, running smooth for 8+ hrs now...but huge drop in fps. Sky is a very interesting effect... not sure if its worth the FPS loss. FPS dropped down to 5-12 fps... too jittery to play. Try to set your "max. viewing distance" in the adv. video tab to a lower value and see if that helps. The higher the better visually, but it's gonna drop your fps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
marack Report post Posted May 3, 2008 Running this latest client version on all three PCs. No 'bugs' to report so far. However, like others have reported, we have major FPS performance impacts to our Laptop and poor-man systems. Ive lowered the Max Distance thingy significantly but still have noticeable perfromance loss. Great views though ^^. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bugabear Report post Posted May 3, 2008 (edited) small bug to report - I was attempting to harvest and misclicked a trade on someone sitting next to meh diamond, i continued to click on the diamond and started to harvest, with effects swirling. the person then clicked on me and a trade window opened, stopping my harvest but I continued to have the swirling harvest effects. the trade was aborted but I was able to stand up and walk around with my effects still going. I restarted my harvest and didn't encounter anything else odd. and yes, I was able to duplicate it a short time later. I can provide screenies and possibly vid if needed ;~) ~bug Edited May 3, 2008 by bugabear Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vegar Report post Posted May 3, 2008 Ok, running smooth for 8+ hrs now...but huge drop in fps. Sky is a very interesting effect... not sure if its worth the FPS loss. FPS dropped down to 5-12 fps... too jittery to play. Try to set your "max. viewing distance" in the adv. video tab to a lower value and see if that helps. The higher the better visually, but it's gonna drop your fps. Also try lowering "Max reflection distance". Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
JimP Report post Posted May 3, 2008 Try to set your "max. viewing distance" in the adv. video tab to a lower value and see if that helps. The higher the better visually, but it's gonna drop your fps. Ok.... I did this, and had little effect....besides making the game seem a lot smaller. A ship that I could see in the distance is now gone. Also try lowering "Max reflection distance". I did this, and this did seem to have some effect... FPS went up a little. I turned it down to 50... and my FPS went to around 20. Is this going to be a mandatory upgrade? Or will we be allowed to play No-Clusters? I understand this is still in production... but will those of us having problems be able to TURN-Off-Sky? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Entropy Report post Posted May 3, 2008 It will be a mandatory update, but no one forces you to use the extended camera. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cyberwulf Report post Posted May 4, 2008 (edited) Hmmm.. ive download the first link in this thread from entrophy, put it into my el-folder, and start with el_sky03, but stiil nothing change only ive now the sky cam in the view option, but still no sky and the same view as the main client? have i to aktivate the cam? when yes how? sorry for this stupid Question :S Found it, sorry, work all fine so far!!! great But still i have no stars, moon or Sun etc, its in sky cam activated, but still nothing :/ Edited May 4, 2008 by Cyberwulf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Affliction Report post Posted May 4, 2008 ok. i have no changes from the no_cluster version to this one. everything works fine. exept that i cannot see the sun, moon, or stars. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Schmurk Report post Posted May 4, 2008 For those who don't see the sky elements (clouds/sun/moons/stars), can you try to switch some other options in the client because I really don't understand why it doesn't work for you. Try to put in poor man to disable all reflections/fog/shadows and such and try also to disable vertex buffer objects and compiled vertex arrays to see if it changes anything... thx. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cyberwulf Report post Posted May 4, 2008 (edited) For those who don't see the sky elements (clouds/sun/moons/stars), can you try to switch some other options in the client because I really don't understand why it doesn't work for you. Try to put in poor man to disable all reflections/fog/shadows and such and try also to disable vertex buffer objects and compiled vertex arrays to see if it changes anything... thx. No, nothing happend/change shadows dont work also I hope that help? Edited May 4, 2008 by Cyberwulf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roja Report post Posted May 4, 2008 Cyberwolf, and others who don't see the clouds, etc, it looks like you don't have the skybox folder in your client directory. Check and see if it's there or not. If you don't have that you probably don't have the new textures for the clouds, etc.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Schmurk Report post Posted May 4, 2008 @cyberwulf and jizzy: please also post the content of your error_log.txt file. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Affliction Report post Posted May 4, 2008 ok. i checked and the skybox file is in my el directory. i played with all the options and still no clouds sun moon etc.. and as requested. here is the error log for my sky test. Log started at 2008-05-04 12:15:57 localtime (Central Daylight Time) [12:15:57] Error: Server profile not found in servers.lst for server: Lands\el_sky03.exe". Failover to server: main. [12:15:57] Using the server profile: main [12:15:57] Warning: Didn't find your data_dir, using the current directory instead. Please correct this in your el.ini . Given data_dir was: "d:\Eternal Lands" [12:16:00] Error opening sound configuration file [12:16:08] Error: Can't open file "quest.log" [12:16:08] * server www.eternal-lands.com filename http://www.eternal-lands.com/updates160/files.lst [12:16:08] Downloading http://www.eternal-lands.com/updates160/files.lst from www.eternal-lands.com [12:16:08] Error: Can't open file "alias.ini" [12:16:37] EXTENDED EXCEPTION(1:file_not_found): Can't find file ./textures/moonmap.bmp in el_file at io/elfile.cpp (line 179) [12:16:43] Finished downloading http://www.eternal-lands.com/updates160/files.lst [12:16:44] * server www.eternal-lands.com filename http://www.eternal-lands.com/updates160/files.lst [12:16:44] Downloading http://www.eternal-lands.com/updates160/files.lst from www.eternal-lands.com [12:16:49] unknown element for skybox: clouds_rain [12:16:49] unknown element for skybox: clouds_detail_rain [12:16:49] unknown element for skybox: fog_rain [12:16:49] unknown element for skybox: light_ambient_rain [12:16:49] unknown element for skybox: light_diffuse_rain [12:16:49] Error while loading the skybox definitions. [12:16:49] no color key defined for 'clouds_sunny' element! [12:16:49] no color key defined for 'clouds_detail_sunny' element! [12:16:49] no color key defined for 'clouds_rainy' element! [12:16:49] no color key defined for 'clouds_detail_rainy' element! [12:16:49] no color key defined for 'sky5' element! [12:16:49] no color key defined for 'sky1_sunny' element! [12:16:49] no color key defined for 'sky2_sunny' element! [12:16:49] no color key defined for 'sky3_sunny' element! [12:16:49] no color key defined for 'sky4_sunny' element! [12:16:49] no color key defined for 'sky5_sunny' element! [12:16:49] no color key defined for 'fog_sunny' element! [12:16:49] no color key defined for 'fog_rainy' element! [12:16:49] no color key defined for 'light_ambient_rainy' element! [12:16:49] no color key defined for 'light_diffuse_rainy' element! [12:16:50] Finished downloading http://www.eternal-lands.com/updates160/files.lst [12:16:52] Failed to download (files.lst) 3 times. Giving up. [12:16:59] Too much commands in the queue for actor 3512 (Deer) => resync! [12:16:59] 0th command in the queue: 26 [12:16:59] 1th command in the queue: 27 [12:16:59] 2th command in the queue: 27 [12:16:59] 3th command in the queue: 27 [12:16:59] 4th command in the queue: 26 [12:16:59] 5th command in the queue: 26 [12:16:59] 6th command in the queue: 26 [12:16:59] 7th command in the queue: 27 [12:16:59] 8th command in the queue: 20 [12:16:59] 9th command in the queue: 20 [12:16:59] 10th command in the queue: 20 [12:16:59] 11th command in the queue: 21 [12:16:59] 12th command in the queue: 22 [12:16:59] 13th command in the queue: 22 [12:16:59] 14th command in the queue: 22 [12:16:59] 15th command in the queue: 21 [12:16:59] 16th command in the queue: 22 [12:16:59] 17th command in the queue: 22 [12:16:59] 18th command in the queue: 22 [12:16:59] 19th command in the queue: 0 [12:16:59] Unable to add command 22 - 3515 [12:16:59] Unable to add command 25 - 3525 [12:16:59] Unable to add command 22 - 3512 [12:16:59] Unable to add command 23 - 3515 [12:16:59] Unable to add command 24 - 3525 [12:17:00] Unable to add command 22 - 3512 [12:17:00] Unable to add command 23 - 3515 [12:17:00] Unable to add command 24 - 3525 [12:17:00] Unable to add command 22 - 3512 [12:17:00] Unable to add command 23 - 3515 [12:17:00] Unable to add command 24 - 3525 [12:17:00] Unable to add command 22 - 3512 [12:17:00] Unable to add command 22 - 3515 [12:17:00] Unable to add command 23 - 3525 [12:17:00] Unable to add command 22 - 3515 [12:17:00] Unable to add command 23 - 3525 [12:17:00] Unable to add command 13 - 3512 [12:17:00] Unable to add command 22 - 3515 [12:17:00] Unable to add command 22 - 3525 [12:17:01] Duplicate actor ID 659 = Misato => Misato [12:19:22] unknown element for skybox: clouds_rain [12:19:22] unknown element for skybox: clouds_detail_rain [12:19:22] unknown element for skybox: fog_rain [12:19:22] unknown element for skybox: light_ambient_rain [12:19:22] unknown element for skybox: light_diffuse_rain [12:19:22] Error while loading the skybox definitions. [12:19:22] no color key defined for 'clouds_sunny' element! [12:19:22] no color key defined for 'clouds_detail_sunny' element! [12:19:22] no color key defined for 'clouds_rainy' element! [12:19:22] no color key defined for 'clouds_detail_rainy' element! [12:19:22] no color key defined for 'sky5' element! [12:19:22] no color key defined for 'sky1_sunny' element! [12:19:22] no color key defined for 'sky2_sunny' element! [12:19:22] no color key defined for 'sky3_sunny' element! [12:19:22] no color key defined for 'sky4_sunny' element! [12:19:22] no color key defined for 'sky5_sunny' element! [12:19:22] no color key defined for 'fog_sunny' element! [12:19:22] no color key defined for 'fog_rainy' element! [12:19:22] no color key defined for 'light_ambient_rainy' element! [12:19:22] no color key defined for 'light_diffuse_rainy' element! [12:20:11] Too much commands in the queue for actor 485 (GrOzAvU LotN) => resync! [12:20:11] 0th command in the queue: 24 [12:20:11] 1th command in the queue: 24 [12:20:11] 2th command in the queue: 24 [12:20:11] 3th command in the queue: 24 [12:20:11] 4th command in the queue: 24 [12:20:11] 5th command in the queue: 24 [12:20:11] 6th command in the queue: 24 [12:20:11] 7th command in the queue: 24 [12:20:11] 8th command in the queue: 24 [12:20:11] 9th command in the queue: 24 [12:20:11] 10th command in the queue: 24 [12:20:11] 11th command in the queue: 24 [12:20:11] 12th command in the queue: 24 [12:20:11] 13th command in the queue: 24 [12:20:11] 14th command in the queue: 24 [12:20:11] 15th command in the queue: 24 [12:20:11] 16th command in the queue: 24 [12:20:11] 17th command in the queue: 24 [12:20:11] 18th command in the queue: 23 [12:20:11] 19th command in the queue: 0 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 26 - 536 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 24 - 637 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 22 - 670 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 25 - 307 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 24 - 485 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 25 - 536 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 24 - 637 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 22 - 670 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 24 - 307 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 24 - 485 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 24 - 536 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 23 - 637 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 22 - 670 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 24 - 307 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 24 - 485 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 23 - 670 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 23 - 248 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 23 - 307 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 23 - 248 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 24 - 307 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 25 - 248 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 24 - 307 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 23 - 637 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 25 - 248 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 24 - 307 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 23 - 637 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 23 - 670 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 25 - 248 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 24 - 307 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 24 - 637 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 23 - 670 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 25 - 248 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 24 - 307 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 24 - 637 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 23 - 670 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 24 - 248 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 24 - 307 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 24 - 637 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 22 - 670 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 24 - 248 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 24 - 637 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 21 - 670 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 25 - 248 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 24 - 637 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 22 - 670 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 24 - 248 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 23 - 670 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 24 - 248 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 22 - 670 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 25 - 248 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 23 - 670 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 24 - 248 [12:20:12] Unable to add command 22 - 670 [12:20:14] Unable to add command 24 - 248 [12:20:14] Unable to add command 23 - 670 [12:20:14] Unable to add command 25 - 248 [12:20:14] Unable to add command 22 - 670 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Schmurk Report post Posted May 4, 2008 Ok it seems that you have a skybox directory but you don't have the good one and you also miss the texture of the moon. I've just checked the exe given at the beginning of the sky test 2 and it contains all the data you need. So uncompress it in your EL directory and it should resolve at least some of your problems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Affliction Report post Posted May 4, 2008 ok.. lets pretend that i dont know what you mean by "decompress it in my EL directory".if i just download the sky test 2 will it fix it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Schmurk Report post Posted May 4, 2008 The sky test 2 is an auto extractable program that will put all the files where you tell him to put them so just choose the location of your EL directory. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Affliction Report post Posted May 4, 2008 The sky test 2 is an auto extractable program that will put all the files where you tell him to put them so just choose the location of your EL directory. i am on vista and cannot download it strait to my El folder. i download it to a download file. then extract it to my El Folder. i never downloaded sky test 2. i started off with the no_cluster version. so im downloading sky test 2 now. The sky test 2 is an auto extractable program that will put all the files where you tell him to put them so just choose the location of your EL directory. i am on vista and cannot download it strait to my El folder. i download it to a download file. then extract it to my El Folder. i never downloaded sky test 2. i started off with the no_cluster version. so im downloading sky test 2 now. it is fixed now.. i have sun ,clouds. ect... my problem was that i didnt download sky test 2. i started with the no clusters version. but it works now.! thx for the help. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cyberwulf Report post Posted May 4, 2008 (edited) Owwww, i start with sky3 too, so i will do that too, but a bit later i am in a guild project atm, but i will post the result here, thx P.s. Yeah, tywm it works now fine with stars moon etc its so nice Alt + f is nice also: running now some hour without any crash or so, only the framrate is sometimes extrem low. Edited May 7, 2008 by Cyberwulf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pride Report post Posted May 5, 2008 If the test client doesn't work for me, does it mean the new client won't work? I wanna see the pretty stuff ;_; :cry: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Schmurk Report post Posted May 5, 2008 First try the no cluster version from the test #2 because we are not 100% sure that all the issues have been resolved in the test client #3. Then if it doesn't help, try to disable all the options before logging (enable poor man or disable reflections, shadows, fog and all the sky elements in the sky&cam tab) and see if you still crash. If you don't crash anymore try to enable the options one after the other until it crashes and tell us your results... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Scorpius Report post Posted May 5, 2008 wow the new graphics are wonderful (dunno which of em are from sky client and which normal), the water ripples (sp?) the sky everything just beautiful and running perfectly over here. constantly 30-50 frames (limited). this is so awesome that it distracts me all the time rofl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Florian Report post Posted May 5, 2008 (edited) I was attempting to harvest and misclicked a trade on someone sitting next to meh diamond, i continued to click on the diamond and started to harvest, with effects swirling. the person then clicked on me and a trade window opened, stopping my harvest but I continued to have the swirling harvest effects. the trade was aborted but I was able to stand up and walk around with my effects still going. I restarted my harvest and didn't encounter anything else odd. Hmm, there must be a message similar to "you stopped harvesting". That message stops the effect. I'll try it ... /EDIT: OK, tested with The_Piper on Isla Prima. We could reproduce it, fix will be in CVS in a few minutes. Edited May 5, 2008 by Florian Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kl4Uz Report post Posted May 5, 2008 works really fine so far! However there are two things: a) Obviously isometric view and the new extended cam don't go along well together. Maybe isometric could be greyed out once you are in the extended cam mode. Maybe it's just me but I think there are way too many parameters to play around with in the options menu and it's all spread out over several tabs. Why not move some of the commands exclusively to the .ini file and leave only the important ones in the options window? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kl4Uz Report post Posted May 6, 2008 Client crashed in First Person View (alt+f) and disabled grabmode (alt+g) while trying to go from IP to WS via ship. Here's the relevant part of the questlog: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites