scarr Report post Posted July 31, 2006 (edited) pointless weapon. noone uses it, please change the effect of it to make pk more fun please change it my idea is that it dont destroy items, but just bypass someones armor at a xx% give it some acuration and 20-30 damage changing this will save lives ;*) radu, please consider to change it ;( what do you guys think ? ... EDIT: lol some1 change topic name to branch of destruction please, always get confused by newb weapons EDIT: thread name changed per request by Ghrae Edited August 1, 2006 by Ghrae Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Infamous Report post Posted July 31, 2006 i think it's a good idea, currently there is no strategy against branch of destruction..except for changing to cheap newb gear and fight then ;/ so changing it to something that adds more strategy instead of just breaking items would be cool. maybe make it so that it has a % chance to decrease the dmg someone does on the one with the branch? or maybe make it stun people for 5 seconds. i think this idea is cool cuz it's more strategic then to just go in a pk map make everyone run withing 2 seconds and maybe breaking some items. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cycloonx Report post Posted July 31, 2006 i think it's a good idea, currently there is no strategy against branch of destruction..except for changing to cheap newb gear and fight then ;/ Nice contradiction you tell here What do you think the effect of this weapon is supposed to be? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matusalem Report post Posted July 31, 2006 Branch of Destruction... if is destruction not to make stun, is to destroy, is what i think... And yes make change to cheaper armor is strategy too , peoples use BP cloack because your effect against armor. About stun , is just to make a new weapon whit this effect, can be a mace or hammer by example. About change a/d and acuracy from branch is one thing but a branch of destruction "not destructive" make no sense. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SirEomer Report post Posted August 1, 2006 good idea branch of destruction ruins pk by destroying expensive items Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scarr Report post Posted August 1, 2006 yep. noone uses it, and u all know deep in ur hearth its not a cool weapon Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ville-v Report post Posted August 1, 2006 About stun , is just to make a new weapon whit this effect, can be a mace or hammer by example. It already exists and is called Axe of Freezing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Infamous Report post Posted August 1, 2006 axe of freezing makes you unable to diss/flee..it doesn't stun you ;p Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanyel Report post Posted August 1, 2006 What about calling it Bone of Mana Destruction and give it chance to drain whole enemy's mana in one hit? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lorck Report post Posted August 1, 2006 Better for me. I remember fighting with The_Antiroot, he rarely hitted me with his mana drain stuff but when hitted was a pain. I almost lost once, i was fighting him barehanded and him with staff, i got drained all my mana and had cooldown on srs... i was about to dis when i saw his death message. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cycloonx Report post Posted August 1, 2006 What about calling it Bone of Mana Destruction and give it chance to drain whole enemy's mana in one hit? And then people can't win anymore and they come bitch again, we can't win, there are no strategies, plx remove it plx plx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ryosuke Report post Posted August 1, 2006 What about calling it Bone of Mana Destruction and give it chance to drain whole enemy's mana in one hit? And then people can't win anymore and they come bitch again, we can't win, there are no strategies, plx remove it plx plx Dude, Mana and Armors are 2 totally different things. HE/SR are much easier to replace than Iron/Steel/Tit Armors. Sure people might moan, but, much cheaper in the long-term. Anyway, havent seen a Branch in PK for ages. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cycloonx Report post Posted August 1, 2006 Anyway, havent seen a Branch in PK for ages. True, not a lot of people can afford one, and since it breakes fast it isn't used a lot... i don't see why people keep bitching about it Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scarr Report post Posted August 1, 2006 (edited) i think giving it double power of a bp cape instead of breaking items is pretty good,+ some acuration no1 use the brance, so why not change it and dont say to change armors quik if some1 uses branche or switch to cutlass, cuz theres no time to do it, w/o empty slots in ur inv Edited August 1, 2006 by scarr Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sparhawk Report post Posted August 1, 2006 Pk at your own risk? If you don't want to lose your items don't go there. Simple. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sMooMs Report post Posted August 1, 2006 PK is a part of EL, let it live, dont let it die. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cycloonx Report post Posted August 1, 2006 PK is a part of EL, let it live, dont let it die. Well that's true, but I'm quite sure there is a place for bods... They aren't used a lot lately! I think there are other ways to let the pk part revive instead of removing bods Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lorck Report post Posted August 1, 2006 PK is a part of EL, let it live, dont let it die. Well that's true, but I'm quite sure there is a place for bods... They aren't used a lot lately! I think there are other ways to let the pk part revive instead of removing bods And there are trully a need for bod? Pk needs to get new life, today i searched almost all pk maps in seridia in a search of someone to fight and i saw only 2 friendly trainees on the fluffies on tahjari. My guess is that pk is almost dead because it is too expensive and you very rarely get a reward. The branch only adds for the "expensive part" and have little or no reason to be on the game. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cycloonx Report post Posted August 1, 2006 (edited) And there are trully a need for bod? Was there trully a need for new armors and weapons? The game was also working without them My guess is that pk is almost dead because it is too expensive and you very rarely get a reward. The branch only adds for the "expensive part" and have little or no reason to be on the game. Well people make it expensive when buying tons of rostogol stones. And because people always use a rosto you never get a reward, so 1 thing: Remove the rostos or change their usage. Pk isn't dead because of bods Edited August 1, 2006 by Cycloonx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vampireLOREN Report post Posted August 1, 2006 good idea branch of destruction ruins pk by destroying expensive items does it not bring a touch of reality to game play? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
NitageR Report post Posted August 1, 2006 kk we wanna be real, after 2 shoots by sword u r dead in rl.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matusalem Report post Posted August 1, 2006 And there are trully a need for bod? Was there trully a need for new armors and weapons? The game was also working without them My guess is that pk is almost dead because it is too expensive and you very rarely get a reward. The branch only adds for the "expensive part" and have little or no reason to be on the game. Well people make it expensive when buying tons of rostogol stones. And because people always use a rosto you never get a reward, so 1 thing: Remove the rostos or change their usage. Pk isn't dead because of bods Yes i agree , with tons of rosto in game there is no drop to pkers anyway... Changing the rostogol stones to only work outside from pk maps, pk maps will have bags again... Or of course remove the stones... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lorck Report post Posted August 2, 2006 (edited) Was there trully a need for new armors and weapons? confused.gif The game was also working without them New weapons and armors dont normally destroy other stuff. They were not designed to do that. There are some kind of games, like poker, which is sum 0. It means, to one side wins, others need to lose, and both sides are rewarded accordingly. The winning side get stuff and the losing side lose stuff, but the overall sum of the stuff gained and lost is 0.. Pking in EL, is sum negative, because one side lose stuff (either rostogols, or armor/weapons destructed) and the winning side gains... uhh, nothing. There are other kinds of games of positive sum, like a normal rpg, where every member of the party can 'win' togheter. Rostogols is a part of the problem, true. But there are other stuff included (like the high break rate for pk gear, read toomass' thread on general chat forum, and yes the branch). Pk isn't dead because of bods Its one factor who contributed to it, read above. And since its only bring stuff bad to the game, why to keep it? EDIT: More details about zero sum games and non-zero sun games can be found in the wikipedia article about game theory. Interesting read if you never heard about it. Edited August 2, 2006 by Lorck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Entropy Report post Posted August 2, 2006 Ok, so we complain that BOD is too powerful. And we also complain that no one uses it. Correct? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lorck Report post Posted August 2, 2006 Ok, so we complain that BOD is too powerful. And we also complain that no one uses it. Correct? I complain that Branch of destruction is too powerful. The fact of it being rarely used dont change the fact. Some people maybe use it if its disposable for use and make the negative sum game of pking in EL even more negative. Remember that the best way to win a negative sum game is not playing it (since you have only to lose) and as result pk maps are almost always empty. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites