Dchels Report post Posted April 30, 2010 Hi, Was asked to supply 30 leather pants for the new daily quest, when i returned with them the NPC said "I asked for 30 iron shields" checked what he needed for help "I think you still have to bring me 30 leather pants.." Davy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Eufonium Report post Posted April 30, 2010 (edited) Same happened for me. However, he accepted the shields and I could complete the quest. Edited April 30, 2010 by Eufonium Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DraZAGorE Report post Posted May 1, 2010 I had the same problem Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
hobobob38 Report post Posted May 1, 2010 radu said that would be a problem because it wasnt tested enough Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bkc56 Report post Posted May 1, 2010 radu said that would be a problem because it wasnt tested enough Ahh, the Micro$oft model of software development. Oh how I wish I could blame bugs on the testers in my job... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
csiga Report post Posted May 1, 2010 My 30 leather helms was done without any problems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raistlin Report post Posted May 1, 2010 radu said that would be a problem because it wasnt tested enough Ahh, the Micro$oft model of software development. Oh how I wish I could blame bugs on the testers in my job... So what's your problem? Sure, you are right if you say 1 day is a bit short for testing something new out. But on the other hand, if a sufficient player base would have taken 5 min of its time to simply log onto test server and test the new quest, I am sure the problem would have become obvious earlier. I tested the new quest and got 30 leather helmets, no problems here. But I took those few minutes to test it, so what? The same applies to the new tutorial quest. Sure it takes longer to test, but as an essential part to get new/more players into the game, I think it could have had more testers from our side to give radu some input. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
bkc56 Report post Posted May 1, 2010 So what's your problem? A design/implementation methodology that not only expects, but depends on end-user testing to find bugs prior to feature release, then blames the users for bugs that still exits. In my work experience, I have always been expected to find and fix any problems through unit and integration testing before the project is complete. Any bugs found in QA after I declare the feature ready are at the very least an embarrassment. Any bugs that make it to customers can be much more serious and potentially very expensive to the company. The same applies to the new tutorial quest. The tutorial quest could be in a different class. While it may include simple bug finding, I would also see it as larger feature (or design) testing. Of course that's independent of any of the feedback being acted upon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
chr0nik Report post Posted May 1, 2010 The game is beta so we are all inherently testers, no? Comparing a single server side developer deploying features in a beta game/product to a production development environment with QA/test staff is silly, but do go on, please. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khalai Report post Posted May 2, 2010 The game is beta so we are all inherently testers, no? Comparing a single server side developer deploying features in a beta game/product to a production development environment with QA/test staff is silly, but do go on, please. To be pefectly honest - "this game is beta" has become more of a mommy's skirt, whenever problem emerges. This game is beta for many years. But being beta does not necesserily means that any bug or glitch found is automatically excused or that the players are blamed for not finding them in time. If you really want to blame players for not testing it deeply, you would need to add this to licence agreement or in-game rules, otherwise it's not much valid for players... (Personal note: 3 titanium chainmails as a random task in this quest is hardly a low to mid-level item sink, more like EFE sink IMO...) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rajun Report post Posted May 3, 2010 (edited) i got same bug :/ its a game it suks,new quest tomorrow Edited May 3, 2010 by xTc Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abel Report post Posted May 3, 2010 The leather pants converted to 30 iron shields, i try to finish them with the shields. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
abel Report post Posted May 3, 2010 Completion works with the shields Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CorlethEL Report post Posted May 8, 2010 (edited) Completion works with the shields I run in to the same bug yesterday. A new chalange for me to carry 30 iron shields with EMU 320 ... Maybe i am able to finished this task in some years. regards Corleth p.s. there is realy a test server? Edited May 8, 2010 by CorlethEL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites