eagleprince Report post Posted February 28, 2006 This happened to me while I was in Naralik a couple of days ago.... I had a look at my health bar and thought, hmmm, one more gob before I run away. However, just as the gob was about to drop, this guy in full leather kit comes over and joins the fight! The gob dies almost immediately and he grabs the bag and runs off without saying anything to me. I think that is worse than bagjumping, unfortunately I was so shocked and annoyed that I did not react in time to get his name. That was the first time I realised that Naralik was actually multi-combat. I know it's not illegal but surely! Has this happened to anyone else? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Learner Report post Posted February 28, 2006 This happened to me while I was in Naralik a couple of days ago.... I had a look at my health bar and thought, hmmm, one more gob before I run away. However, just as the gob was about to drop, this guy in full leather kit comes over and joins the fight! The gob dies almost immediately and he grabs the bag and runs off without saying anything to me. I think that is worse than bagjumping, unfortunately I was so shocked and annoyed that I did not react in time to get his name. That was the first time I realised that Naralik was actually multi-combat. I know it's not illegal but surely! Has this happened to anyone else? Any chance it was an Ant? They do that all the time. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eagleprince Report post Posted February 28, 2006 Any chance it was an Ant? They do that all the time. Nah, I don't think those Ants do leather... it wasn't a bot, in any case. It was a regular player, although I think his name starts with 'A' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanyel Report post Posted February 28, 2006 (edited) 1. AntZ do everything what they can - what's quite a lot. 2. All'em have purple names. 3. It sucks :/ <edit> Just for people that likes to misinterprate other's words. 3-->disturbing other's fun while they fight monsters sucks. Edited February 28, 2006 by vanyel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0ctane Report post Posted February 28, 2006 Just for people that likes to misinterprate other's words. 3-->disturbing other's fun while they fight monsters sucks. I agree. An Ant did that to me in the MM caves once. How is it that they can do multiple-combat on (what seems like) any map while others cannot? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bharain Report post Posted February 28, 2006 This happened to me while I was in Naralik a couple of days ago.... I had a look at my health bar and thought, hmmm, one more gob before I run away. However, just as the gob was about to drop, this guy in full leather kit comes over and joins the fight! The gob dies almost immediately and he grabs the bag and runs off without saying anything to me. I think that is worse than bagjumping, unfortunately I was so shocked and annoyed that I did not react in time to get his name. That was the first time I realised that Naralik was actually multi-combat. I know it's not illegal but surely! Has this happened to anyone else? Maybe he saw another player in trouble and jumped in to help him out? I've done this myself and been thanked for it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Infamous Report post Posted February 28, 2006 omg he bagjumped ur gob bag while he helped killed it omg where is teh world coming too!?!?!?! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vwpro Report post Posted February 28, 2006 lol what does a gob drop 4 gold ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sbarstow Report post Posted February 28, 2006 Regardless of what is dropped...it's a pretty low thing to do. The 4gc, 2 bones and occassional sword is quite helpful to some newer players that are training on gobs. And besides its the principle of the thing, if you were training on a cyclops and some guy ran in and got the finishing blow then took the bag, you'd be pretty upset I imagine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kylara Report post Posted February 28, 2006 (edited) I would be angry too, i consider it spawnstealing. Yeah yeah , i know no one owns a spawn... but if one is already fighting a monster? Not really good manners Edited February 28, 2006 by Kylara Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0ctane Report post Posted February 28, 2006 omg he bagjumped ur gob bag while he helped killed it omg where is teh world coming too!?!?!?! Well, maybe for you (oh mighty Hardcore), but for people starting out - where gobs are actually difficult and you get good training exp - the mentioned Ant problem is a nuisance. And, it was not just a bagjump, but rather a steal-my-kill and bagjump (at least in my case). EaglePrince thought it might not be a Ant that did the kill&steal. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bharain Report post Posted February 28, 2006 (edited) Look at it this way: you see someone engaged in combat, nearly dead, making no effort to heal himself. You can either: a) help him out by killing the monster then carry on as you were see what happens and should he die be prepared to sit on his bag for 5mins+ Edited February 28, 2006 by Bharain Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0ctane Report post Posted February 28, 2006 Look at it this way: you see someone engaged in combat, nearly dead, making no effort to heal himself. You can either: Can one person so totally miss the point?For me, my health was 100%. But, let's say that EaglePrince was in danger of dying... why was the bag then stolen if this was a good samaritan act? Hmmm? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Bharain Report post Posted February 28, 2006 But, let's say that EaglePrince was in danger of dying... As he stated: I had a look at my health bar and thought, hmmm, one more gob before I run away. So he must've been running fairly low on health towards the end of the fight. Can one person so totally miss the point? For me, my health was 100%. For you it was also an Ant. Ant's were already covered. why was the bag then stolen if this was a good samaritan act? Hmmm? Maybe because he saw 2gc and 2 bones and thought nothing of taking it? Maybe because (thought) he'd just saved someones skin and didn't imagine they'd object. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vwpro Report post Posted February 28, 2006 If person 1 starts to fight and player 2 attacks the same monster when its almost dead, player 1 always get the bag, unless you fled the monster Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Atlantis Report post Posted February 28, 2006 I think its whoever did the most net damage, i'm not sure though Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sbarstow Report post Posted February 28, 2006 If person 1 starts to fight and player 2 attacks the same monster when its almost dead, player 1 always get the bag, unless you fled the monster Not neccessarily true...I have attacked a goblin, got it down to 2 health an Ant attacks it, kills it and then takes the bag while I am still in combat. Whoever throws the final blow gets the bag, thats all there is to it. I have on occassion accidently attacked a monster someone else is already attacking...if I cannot flee and walk on bag after I walk off and give to them...it is the right thing to do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eagleprince Report post Posted March 1, 2006 I must say I have been quite surprised at the number of responses to this thread, Let me clarify a few things. I am 29/29 a/d, and currently, full health for me is 55 points. not much, I know, but I had about 30 points left. I decided I would leave after the final gob only because I was out of mana. The most any (unarmed) gob has taken off me was about 20 points on a lucky hit - lucky for the gob. The gob was down to the last few health points, so I certainly did loads more damage than this jumper did. However, he was fortunate enough to land the final decisive blow, whereupon his character moved onto the bag. Of course, I have no way of knowing what was in the bag, but I have found leather kit, swords, SRS, summoning, defense and attack potions on a gob. But like someone smarter than vwpro and hardcore has pointed out, the issue here is not the contents of the bag. In any case, I am sure he would not have attempted that on a PK map! In my eyes, this guy is a bagjumper. I rest my case. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ornitorrinco Report post Posted March 1, 2006 The bagjumping is nothing, but the spawnstealing is damn annoying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanyel Report post Posted March 1, 2006 (edited) Bag usually goes for the one who scored a kill. <edit> I will be more precise. The one who scores a kill will step on bag. It's the way it works. Edited March 1, 2006 by vanyel Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arnieman Report post Posted March 1, 2006 I agree with vanyel that as he said is the way it's supposed to happen in the game. However, I'm not going to say it doesn't suck if someone decides to join your fight, kill the monster, and take the loot themselves. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Infamous Report post Posted March 1, 2006 uhm isn' t this normal when you fight anything up to gob? well it is spawnstealing/bagjumping that makes it good for palcing it here but on the other hand it' s really normal if you fight anything up to gob.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vwpro Report post Posted March 1, 2006 o yeh i forgot to say, if u fight barehanded and some1 with a serp or w/e starts hiting the same mob after you, he will get the bag most of the time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
eagleprince Report post Posted March 1, 2006 o yeh i forgot to say, if u fight barehanded and some1 with a serp or w/e starts hiting the same mob after you, he will get the bag most of the time I go to Nara regularly to fight gobs. Usually bare-handed so I gain more XP points. I think this dude had a sword, but I really do not remember. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sparhawk Report post Posted March 2, 2006 Bag usually goes for the one who scored a kill. <edit> I will be more precise. The one who scores a kill will step on bag. It's the way it works. Is this the same with magic? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
