Disturbed Report post Posted July 9, 2008 Hey im interessted in what people think about instinct vs. vitality. Reaction: helps avoid being hit in combat. Vitality: reduces the amount of damage taken in a fight. So im curiouse which attribute helps you to stay on a spawn longer without useing much he's and which attribute helps you to gain more xp vs. dodging or takeing less damage. now plx spamm this thread kkthx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hermit Report post Posted July 9, 2008 Instinct would give you more xp, because while toughness reduces damage even if you get zero damage from a hit you still get no xp because you didn't dodge the attack. You should also note that vitality increases mana, which is good for magic spells, maybe not necessary in PvE but very useful in PvP. Unless your fighting a monster way higher levels then you, then it would come in handy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Disturbed Report post Posted July 9, 2008 ok thx, but which one would you say would let you use the least amount of HE's possible while training Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Hermit Report post Posted July 9, 2008 For he's my guess is they would be pretty even. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spidi Report post Posted August 26, 2008 What about pk? Any opinions? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PaulB Report post Posted August 26, 2008 What about pk? Any opinions? IMO I love vit for fighting. Don't really know a good reason other than it just feels "right" to me. PaulB Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dushan Report post Posted August 26, 2008 (edited) Instinct is way better than vit, for pk Edited August 26, 2008 by Dushan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Chosen Report post Posted August 26, 2008 Just like Vit is better than Will. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spidi Report post Posted August 26, 2008 But... if i want fight with stronger opponents (10 attack more than my def and max reasoning), he will score every hit, vit isnt better in this example? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
korrode Report post Posted August 27, 2008 But... if i want fight with stronger opponents (10 attack more than my def and max reasoning), he will score every hit, vit isnt better in this example? In this example, vit is better. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zalbo Report post Posted August 27, 2008 But... if i want fight with stronger opponents (10 attack more than my def and max reasoning), he will score every hit, vit isnt better in this example? In this example, vit is better. If you were to have someone 10 lvls higher than you it would be better to take vit as,like you said, they will score every hit.so would be best to try "absorb" as much damage as possible,if you have many people with slightly less a/d then would be better to have instinct as you wouldnt get hit as often then,but would still take slight hits ie crits etc. but as they will be lower a/d not as high as if they were 10 higher But all in all,Vit>Will. Inst is equal to vit in that you cant make a one or the other thing,all depends what you want to do,whether it be pk or pvp or pve.but,i would say,a good inst/vit mix is good for all areas of fighting,instead of one or the other. My two Pence Zalbo Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michic0_oL Report post Posted August 27, 2008 Instinct is way better than vit, for pk because u are in top def.... someone with 120 def and 40 I will never block someone 130 attack so better take Vita to absorb the shit.. instead of wasting 36 pp in an attribute hoping to block... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dushan Report post Posted August 27, 2008 You should see a fight between me and ulubatli on test server, he has max vitality and i got max instinct, i restored maybe once at half hp and he restored at least 30 times, vit sucks, and 280 hp is too low for someone to fight multiple opponents in kf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
korrode Report post Posted August 27, 2008 (edited) But aren't u and Ulu similar a/d Dushan? ...that's TK's point. Fighting someone at around your a/d and lower, inst is great. but fighting someone 10+ a/d on u, vit is better, cause they're gonna get every hit in whether u have inst or vit... so the big toughness and mana will help, whereas the reaction will do nothing. Thats all not to say that a <130 a/d person cant/shouldn't do an inst build (inst build is way better for training, in the long run), they will be very strong against people <=themself, but they will be diss-tele'ing/dying quick against people with significantly higher a/d. EDIT: another important point though, even someone 10 a/d higher than u, if u take inst, at least they wont be able to Bronze Sword + Ice arrow you ;P Edited August 27, 2008 by Korrode Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Michic0_oL Report post Posted August 27, 2008 (edited) btw what weapon did ulub use ? don't tell me he was trying to OS you :] - i would have cuttied ^^ because u have low V i expect means low toughness so even cutty would deal some ok damage :] Edited August 27, 2008 by Michic0_oL Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dushan Report post Posted August 27, 2008 He was using jsoc, and still couldn't hit me Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spidi Report post Posted August 27, 2008 Anyway insta will be useless if i with with stronger enemy, vita - smaller dmg, and more mana =) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizzy Report post Posted August 27, 2008 I guess, we can all say, that there is no "better" build using I or V. It depends on your personal style, the persons your fighting. I was always partial to Vitality, But there where times I wished I had more I/R instead. There is no perfect build Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Spidi Report post Posted September 23, 2008 (edited) there is, but u need max oa and a lot of money Edited September 23, 2008 by Spidi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Burfoot Report post Posted September 23, 2008 just raise you coor - 90 is nice for pk miss those days:( Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wizzy Report post Posted September 24, 2008 there is, but u need max oa and a lot of money Yes good point Just make every attribute 48 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
DarkPresent Report post Posted April 11, 2009 (edited) Yes, vit is better for players with small a/d. Instinct is better for players with 120's+ a/d in pk. But i have an question, What is better for training/serping yeti ? They have a lot of crit so that means vit is better, less hp taken = more time at the spown but if u are 130 def level what is better in that case ? And if u don't have instinct, only vit then yeti will hit u 100% and there are no matter to train them. We know ppls with 145 def have no big difference witch u will take vit or inst. Edited April 11, 2009 by DarkPresent Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Dushan Report post Posted April 11, 2009 Instinct is better than vit for yeti Share this post Link to post Share on other sites