mauriciom Report post Posted November 15, 2005 The mass is a Fermion and cant be at the same space at the same time :axeman_rune: [if u dont know phys try to hit something, ur hand and the thing u are hitting arent at the same place at the same time, if u hit the wall ur hand will be damage so be carefull rolf] Now like u can see in the pic im at the same time and at the same place with that ogre. Is a bug or not? El has the same phys law that RL? Could be nice to have more of this things? Well vote!!!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ttlanhil Report post Posted November 15, 2005 (edited) collision detection isn't quite so simple to do. in EL, we draw object A in one location, with its size and shape, etc. object B is dran nearby. the only prevention of collision we have is the grid system, and heightmapping (including tiles you can't walk on). and sometimes things don't work out right hopefully we'll have proper collision detection and adjustments (like your cape moves if it bumps against something) that said... apart from the magic angle, I don't see a need for the physics to be different in EL than real life (in the long run. adding the code to do it is a big task) Edited November 15, 2005 by ttlanhil Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Learner Report post Posted November 15, 2005 If it had the same physical laws, you couldn't do magic, and when you died you'd have make a new character! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kedan Report post Posted November 15, 2005 erm this hurts my head lol, it might be fun to have something like this on certain maps, like theres one map with doesn't use a certain law, but there are problems with this. Lets take the one u said, about two things cant be in the same place at the same time, well if we ignored this people could walk throw walls, and mountins, so how would we be able to have an egde of a map? because without that law they can just walk forever though everything. or for that matter shouldn't we just fall straght though the floor because the floor doesn't stop us as two things can be in one place at the same time, and gravity will push us down? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arnieman Report post Posted November 15, 2005 Well, looks like the bad news is that the laws of physics are violated. The good news is that at the very least, the violation will beat itself out of existence. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Infamous Report post Posted November 15, 2005 don't care / don't care as long as EL runs i'm happy Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roja Report post Posted November 15, 2005 it's not a bug! You're supposed to fight the ogre from inside of him! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mauriciom Report post Posted November 15, 2005 it's not a bug! You're supposed to fight the ogre from inside of him! Rolf roja Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tanyia Report post Posted November 15, 2005 (edited) it's not a bug! You're supposed to fight the ogre from inside of him! It's a feature of the Draian universe, eh? Ooh ooh...we're not made of fermions, we're made of rojaons! Edited November 15, 2005 by Tanyia Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Derin Report post Posted November 15, 2005 it's not a bug! You're supposed to fight the ogre from inside of him! The true meaning of getting under someone's skin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Entropy Report post Posted November 15, 2005 Rest at peace, my child, for the rules of physics are not violated. While it is true that many particles that compose the body are fermions: 1. The photons you see on your screen are actually bosons which do not obey the Pauli exclusion principle. 2. The bodies do not coexist in the same space at a subatomic level. As you might know, the vast portion of the matter is actually empty. While the electromagnetic force and the nuclear weak force would push away two atoms that get too close to eachother, it just happens that in EL the constants for the electric force is different in every place, so some places allow matter to apparently coexist. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kenneth916 Report post Posted November 15, 2005 TY Ent for that explanation. I can now rest soundly, knowing that we are not breaking these important laws. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tanyia Report post Posted November 15, 2005 TY Ent for that explanation. I can now rest soundly, knowing that we are not breaking these important laws. Not breaking, just...err...adjusting...to fit with observation! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Entropy Report post Posted November 15, 2005 TY Ent for that explanation. I can now rest soundly, knowing that we are not breaking these important laws. Not breaking, just...err...adjusting...to fit with observation! Exactly Some guy noticed that other's guy gravity model was working, but had a few flaws at big speeds (or big mass?) , so he readjusted it a 'little', so now his model is teh r0x. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tanyia Report post Posted November 15, 2005 Exactly Some guy noticed that other's guy gravity model was working, but had a few flaws at big speeds (or big mass?) , so he readjusted it a 'little', so now his model is teh r0x. A little?!?!?! And it was many guys Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Entropy Report post Posted November 15, 2005 Well, many guys observed the irregularities of Mercury's orbit, but only one was able to adjust the theory a 'little' to fit with the observation Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tanyia Report post Posted November 15, 2005 Well, many guys observed the irregularities of Mercury's orbit, but only one was able to adjust the theory a 'little' to fit with the observation GR was developed by more than one person though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mauriciom Report post Posted November 16, 2005 Rest at peace, my child, for the rules of physics are not violated. While it is true that many particles that compose the body are fermions: 1. The photons you see on your screen are actually bosons which do not obey the Pauli exclusion principle. 2. The bodies do not coexist in the same space at a subatomic level. As you might know, the vast portion of the matter is actually empty. While the electromagnetic force and the nuclear weak force would push away two atoms that get too close to eachother, it just happens that in EL the constants for the electric force is different in every place, so some places allow matter to apparently coexist. Well when God talks the humans lisen.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Tanyia Report post Posted November 16, 2005 Well when God talks the humans lisen.... Haha, nice way of putting it ^_^ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Entropy Report post Posted November 16, 2005 GR was developed by more than one person though. Well, more or less. In the beginning most of them were like: "Omfg no way d00de, thats BS!11" Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
RolandR1 Report post Posted November 16, 2005 GR was developed by more than one person though. Well, more or less. In the beginning most of them were like: "Omfg no way d00de, thats BS!11" lol :lol: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mauriciom Report post Posted November 16, 2005 GR was developed by more than one person though. Well, more or less. In the beginning most of them were like: "Omfg no way d00de, thats BS!11" lol :lol: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Arnieman Report post Posted November 16, 2005 hmm - rewriting the rules to apply to what happens, not what should, and convincing us all that this is normal parameters... good job! Atahn: I just can't quite seem to grasp this... Your Brain has been destroyed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Entropy Report post Posted November 16, 2005 hmm - rewriting the rules to apply to what happens, not what should, and convincing us all that this is normal parameters... good job! Atahn: I just can't quite seem to grasp this... Your Brain has been destroyed. The whole concept of science is that all the theory has to be backd up by experiment and/or observation. So if the observation deviates from the theory, then it is our duty to perfect the laws and formulas to match Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mauriciom Report post Posted November 17, 2005 Well that what i do =) I love to find mistakes in laws and theorys. And math is are lenguage. =) We can make a new theory for el! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites