ShYne Report post Posted June 7, 2006 Can anyone make el compadible for psp ??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drakos7 Report post Posted June 8, 2006 That would be an interesting challenge. Perhaps the single player version Ent is working on could be ported... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dns_server Report post Posted June 8, 2006 One problem with the psp is it does not allow unsigned executables to be run unless you have "hacked" your psp to allow this. For it to run properly it would need to be signed by sony which would mean a lot of negotiation and legal work to come up with a legal agreement. As the source code is open source, if they did sign an open source executable it would make it easy for people to reverse engeneer sonys primary key used to sign all executables and thair security would be completely broken so i don't think sony would agree to such a thing. If you want it as "homebrew" for pepole who have hacked thair psp's it should be possible, I believe sdl has been ported to the psp (not shure about sdl_net) and i believe openal is supported also so technically it should be possible. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0ctane Report post Posted June 8, 2006 Or a top-down version of EL for psp. That would reduce the processor load quite a bit. But yeah, it would have to be a homebrew hack since I do not think Entropy wants to pay Sony for development fees. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Entropy Report post Posted June 8, 2006 It would be very difficult, the PSP has like 4 MB of RAM, not nearly enough for EL. Plus, it's hardware is not so advanced. It would take a total rewrite of El. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShYne Report post Posted June 8, 2006 It would be very difficult, the PSP has like 4 MB of RAM, not nearly enough for EL. Plus, it's hardware is not so advanced. It would take a total rewrite of El. Can't just convert it? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0ctane Report post Posted June 8, 2006 Can't just convert it? Have a crack at it. =) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShYne Report post Posted June 16, 2006 Have a crack at it. =) I would help with a project if it is started Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Torg Report post Posted June 17, 2006 I would help with a project if it is started If you know anything about programming for a Nintendo DS, then you know more than most of us I suspect. Therefore you'd be the one right to start the project. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShYne Report post Posted July 2, 2006 I think I found a way to start this project http://www.hacker.co.il/psp/bochs/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Entropy Report post Posted July 2, 2006 Great, then play EL on it and let us know how cool it is. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
vwpro Report post Posted July 2, 2006 E-L for playstation 1 plx Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dns_server Report post Posted July 2, 2006 (edited) with a little searching have a look at the PSP Programming Tutorial and get the psp toolchain to compile it. There are A fiew reports of a downgrader to version 1.5 (which is a version that you can run homebrew software on.) goodluck. Edited July 2, 2006 by dns_server Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
KibblesAndBits Report post Posted July 2, 2006 I think I found a way to start this project http://www.hacker.co.il/psp/bochs/ just a question does that guy make the same thing on ds as well if so can u post? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d000hg Report post Posted July 2, 2006 It would be very difficult, the PSP has like 4 MB of RAM, not nearly enough for EL. Plus, it's hardware is not so advanced. It would take a total rewrite of El. I don't know what the newtorking capabilities of PSP/DS are, but if it's still server-orientated it may not be too bad. The 3D graphics must be the biggest performance drain - a top-down 2D renderer would be a good start. With reduced assets maybe the memory aspect wouldn't be an issue. It would certainly be interesting but still a big job - a team would be required I suspect. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Kalach Report post Posted July 3, 2006 It would be very difficult, the PSP has like 4 MB of RAM, not nearly enough for EL. Plus, it's hardware is not so advanced. It would take a total rewrite of El. I don't know what the newtorking capabilities of PSP/DS are, but if it's still server-orientated it may not be too bad. The 3D graphics must be the biggest performance drain - a top-down 2D renderer would be a good start. With reduced assets maybe the memory aspect wouldn't be an issue. It would certainly be interesting but still a big job - a team would be required I suspect. I kind of think it's a silly idea, but, a smart implementation would start by ensuring that logic is decoupled from display in the current CVS version. A thumbs up for scalability anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
d000hg Report post Posted July 4, 2006 I kind of think it's a silly idea, but, a smart implementation would start by ensuring that logic is decoupled from display in the current CVS version. A thumbs up for scalability anyway. It would get a lot more publicity for EL - there can't be many proper MMORPGs on PDP so far. But mainly it would be really interesting to work on for anyone with a lot of expereince with PSP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShYne Report post Posted July 12, 2006 IT seems very hard Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sora_barzahd Report post Posted July 24, 2006 I just bumped this up to say that the PSP now has a free 3D engine for developers, so if there's anyone who wants to make a game, so I can play another homebrew game, then please do 3-D engine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
0ctane Report post Posted July 24, 2006 While that looks intriguing, it is still for homebrew. therefore most psp owners would not be able to play due to firmware restrictions. When that is available, give it a try. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
sora_barzahd Report post Posted July 24, 2006 Actually, you can downgrade your PSP to 1.5-1.0 if you have 1.7-2.0 firmware using a downgrader found here: 2.0 to 1.5 downgrader Since it doesn't really matter if you downgrade to 1.0, there's no need to. If you have a 2.5-2.6 PSP, then you need to find someone with a copy of Grand theft auto: Libirty Streets stories, so you can run the e-loader found here: 2.0/2.6 downgrader or here Donwgrader If you need walkthroughs to do this, then you can find them here Walkthroughs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ariel_Engle Report post Posted August 13, 2006 (edited) If we are going to make homebrew versions of this game to use on a portable device. Is it possible to do the same thing with a GBA SP? I have a flash cart that has 256Mb of memory that it can store game info on all that would be needed is a way to enter text using the pointer that way people can log on and chat. The directions arrows up, down, left, right can control the pointer. The B botton can left click and the A botton can right click. You can hold down the L botton and press the left or right directional arrows to can the rotation of the camra angle and hold down the R botton and the up or down botton to zoom in or out. I am not so good at programing but I can test the cleint out using my flash cart for the GBA version. Edited August 13, 2006 by Ariel_Engle Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ShYne Report post Posted August 28, 2006 (edited) GBA can't even support 1/4 of EL and how is the gba goimg to pick up a inernet connection Edited August 29, 2006 by zoin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ariel_Engle Report post Posted September 4, 2006 GBA can't even support 1/4 of EL and how is the gba goimg to pick up a inernet connection Most newer versions of the GBA have a why fi connection to the internet. If you notice I said the flash cart can hold 256Mb I think with using a downgrader it be possible to have it all fit in on that much space but I think we might have to also develop a private server just in case el does not like the idea that way we can still play. Also note that this has more memory then the psp 6 Mb Share this post Link to post Share on other sites