dragonsyoung Report post Posted November 5, 2005 i dont understand how me posting only what has been said is lies, yes i atked cash, for atking *O* guild at randum for no reason the reason i even askd was because kadlub atk'd an *O* member and i had been told about toomass picking on the guild he was boot'd from Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zep Report post Posted November 5, 2005 Lmfao!! This made me laugh SOO much. Im glad you find it ammusing. Honestly.. What chance do UTi stand against CA$H.. And as for everything UTi said, your liars. After speaking to TooMass, I knew you guys started it. (A while ago.) When you said TooMass & Matess started it. Its not about wining or losseing, Otherwise, Why would we have gone to war with HC and EF in the first place? 20 vs 100, the odds are no in our favor, big deal. We have been in support of Toomass especilly regarding all the stuff about getting his char back. And hes been back what? 2-3 weeks? So this "a while ago" stuff is out the window. Honorable guild UTi? I think not. Same as *O*. Im glad when its one person who steps out of line, That labels an entire guild. Its like being a racist. Normally someone of that creed or race steps out of line, So you label everyone. Best of luck with your life skills if you keep that attitude. Another thing.. belali & ZebellaH both stuck up for a scammer.. So, that makes they good players how? Agreed there is no honor in that, But at what point do you let it go? Just kill them forever? Opening some course of dialog with there guild master, or guild reps might actually be the best step, And prevent war situations. Clearly he is no longer supporting the "scammer" you suggest in this post. If he was, they would have booted him from *o* guild. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LadyWolf Report post Posted November 5, 2005 Chronic, to hear you speak of honor makes me laugh. You for one have no honor, scamming characters is far from it. So think before you speak. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lorck Report post Posted November 5, 2005 (edited) I sent this IG after DY att me in pvp.because i wont let any1 to att me w/o punishment. Iirc, attack people in pvp was normal against me, and you said a few days back there was no fair fight. Crazy, what you think is right against me is wrong against you. But whatever, maybe CA$H is so strong that they would stand a fight against whole el and win at the end. :lol: Edited November 5, 2005 by Lorck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Istiach Report post Posted November 5, 2005 Iirc, attack people in pvp was normal against me, and you said a few days back there was no fair fight.Crazy, what you think is right against me is wrong against you. when hadodej atacked u u were standing. u were not fightin so dont whine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lorck Report post Posted November 5, 2005 (edited) Iirc, attack people in pvp was normal against me, and you said a few days back there was no fair fight.Crazy, what you think is right against me is wrong against you. when hadodej atacked u u were standing. u were not fightin so dont whine I was not standing... look at the respective thread. Oh, and I am replying to Argian and Toomass! Or i am dumb or courageous, probably both! EDIT: And my intention is not "whine". It just take my eyes rolling when a lie stand up, like i was not engaged in a fight when Hadodej attacked, and Hadodej said later he does not lie (since i dont have proof is my word aginst his word), rofl. This is getting offtopic anyway, please flame this post in the respective outlaw thread. And in that same thread, TooMass said it was normal and fair attack people while training if it was not friend of his guild, so my original point still aplies. Its only wrong attack him and his friends while training? Edited November 5, 2005 by Lorck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Matess Report post Posted November 5, 2005 i dont understand how me posting only what has been said is lies, yes i atked cash, for atking *O* guild at randum for no reason the reason i even askd was because kadlub atk'd an *O* member and i had been told about toomass picking on the guild he was boot'd from lol we r in war with *o* for ages ...so why did u start att us now? Were u waitning until I and TooMass reset??? lmao Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dragonsyoung Report post Posted November 5, 2005 (edited) u should of said so to begin with in sted off "TooMass: because "O" sux" after speaking to a leader of *O* ,dishonorable actions from would have put Ca$h guild on UTi's target list anyway Edited November 5, 2005 by dragonsyoung Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Istiach Report post Posted November 5, 2005 u should of said so to begin with in sted off "TooMass: because "O" sux" after speaking to a leader of *O* ,dishonorable actions from would have put Ca$h guild on UTi's target list anyway hard to understand what did u write Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Peach Report post Posted November 5, 2005 Matess owns j00 aLL but its sad that UTi is lying, and i will always be on Cash's side was one of my first friend and i will always be loyal to him Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
scarr Report post Posted November 5, 2005 who is lorch ig, just lorch or ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Infamous Report post Posted November 6, 2005 there aren't any honorable guilds left... There are many. lol ye non-pk guilds , you won't find 1 honorable pk guild no Hc or cash give belali never a change ! he scammed his own guild when he was in Hc! also he attacked me tons of time while i pvped and tornado promised me he wouldnt attack Toomass, What did he do to CASH guild? If he really doesnt deserve a chance, Try speaking with Rogue/Tornado first, before attacking. And you are implying *o* have no honor? yet they stand and fight against guilds who are ruining the community spirit? if i remember correct Uti / ^v^ and *O* have ordered their members to attack enemy's during pvp does that make those guild any better then what they are fighting against? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lorck Report post Posted November 6, 2005 (edited) if i remember correct Uti / ^v^ and *O* have ordered their members to attack enemy's during pvp does that make those guild any better then what they are fighting against? But they dont attack nonenemies in pvp with frequence. Alchmaster and Belali attacked me while training (in that cases i dised and run), and i pmed ppl with enough rank of that guilds and they said it is not common. In the Hadodej case, i thought he has good rank in CA$H because he is a minister or something, so i posted on el forums. And got the response from TooMass: "There was no fair fighting, in pk you kill or get killed". I dont care if i get attacked once in a while, i do care when some guild tell pvp attacking is normal, and only their allies are free from attack. Btw, the only two guilds i think inherently have no honor, because of their leaders, is CA$H and *CO*, mostly because they think all that is legal is nice and honorable. EDIT: Just in case of someone woundering, my main char is Lorck (without great stats, my stats are available through iknow if you are curious), i do have an alt but his stats is even lower than Lorck. Edited November 6, 2005 by Lorck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zep Report post Posted November 6, 2005 Matess owns j00 aLL but its sad that UTi is lying, and i will always be on Cash's side was one of my first friend and i will always be loyal to him Ah if lieing means disclosing all information, Sure. Congratulations on remaining objective. Summery. What we are saying is that, When asked, had the opertunity to say why they attack *o*, beyond being smart asses about it. Instead they didnt give what most people would consider a reasonable answer, untill they brought the issue to the forums. They say there reason for attacking is that, prior to being in *o* guild belali supported a scammer. And admited they made no effort to speak to *o* guild prior to attacking over belali. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lorck Report post Posted November 6, 2005 (edited) Matess owns j00 aLL but its sad that UTi is lying, and i will always be on Cash's side was one of my first friend and i will always be loyal to him Ah if lieing means disclosing all information, Sure. Congratulations on remaining objective. Summery. What we are saying is that, When asked, had the opertunity to say why they attack *o*, beyond being smart asses about it. Instead they didnt give what most people would consider a reasonable answer, untill they brought the issue to the forums. They say there reason for attacking is that, prior to being in *o* guild belali supported a scammer. And admited they made no effort to speak to *o* guild prior to attacking over belali. If both sides dont wanted the war, CA$H can talk with the *O* leaders and while the conversation dont attack anyone from *O* or UTI. Of course, during this armistice nobody from UTI should attack CA$H too. But my personal guess is: both parties wanted the war, and would make little effort to stop it. Edited November 6, 2005 by Lorck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Istiach Report post Posted November 6, 2005 (edited) what would do pk guilds without pking... think we need allies and also we need enemies Edited November 6, 2005 by Istiach Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Lorck Report post Posted November 6, 2005 (edited) what would do pk guilds without pking... think we need allies and also we need enemies Its true, but why a flamewar in the forums if they would go attack each other anyway? I think few people would roleplay in a hippie world where anybody is friend, and its natural for pkers to attack each other. So wtf with "look they started it"? EDIT: if the goal of this thread was to make those ppl hate each other before attack, i think they suceeded, so this thread has no reason anymore to be. Edited November 6, 2005 by Lorck Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LadyWolf Report post Posted November 6, 2005 if i remember correct Uti / ^v^ and *O* have ordered their members to attack enemy's during pvp does that make those guild any better then what they are fighting against? They did? I must have missed that memo.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zep Report post Posted November 6, 2005 if i remember correct Uti / ^v^ and *O* have ordered their members to attack enemy's during pvp does that make those guild any better then what they are fighting against? They did? I must have missed that memo.. Hmm, Probably because i didnt send one =) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Zaer Report post Posted November 6, 2005 members of all 3 of those guilds have attacked me at some time whilst i was pvp'ing. I have never attacked any of them whilst they do. Who is dishonourable now? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites