caladina Report post Posted January 30 (edited) Mac book 2021, M1 pro, Monterey 12.5 been working fine since i got the new macbook, had three characters logged in and closed the lid as normal, when i came back they failed to launch so i shut the boxes, went to start the client in the normal way and after hitting return the window closed and i got the "Eternal lands quit unexpectedly" with the big list of technical report stuff my version is 1.9.6p1 from march 2022 help when using my gf identical macbook my characters open fine i don't know if my client has gone bad ? pretty much low use on the macbook and i very rarely have many tabs opeen Edited January 30 by caladina Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caladina Report post Posted January 30 When i open the main client, it has the name of my Knight, if i just put in the password the client crashes If i remove the name and put in one of my other characters the game opens and i can breifly use that char, but none of the game settings are the remembered ones like the number of spell squares or the way i had the names and bars or the camera position if i walk the character after a short while the window closes when i do the same for the Knight that the client opens with, ie remove the name then retype it and put the password in it just closes without doing anything else I tried downloading new launcher but the same thing happens i tried it with and without rossetta does the same thing ( the new launchers never had rossetta option)? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caladina Report post Posted January 31 Bluap, looking at your other reply to the crashing issue you mentioned the client_state.json file, thinking how the characters i can log in for a few moments before they crash out with the layout of the HUB being back to basic and looking at whats in the client_state.json file, it seems the client could be ignoring it as you say, firstly how do i make that file available for you to see if its what you need here and secondly you mention if the file is ignored it should run fine but my one still crashes anyway this from the apple crash report, does it mean anything to any one? Crashed Thread: 0 Dispatch queue: com.apple.main-thread Exception Type: EXC_BAD_ACCESS (SIGSEGV) Exception Codes: KERN_INVALID_ADDRESS at 0x0000000000000000 Exception Codes: 0x0000000000000001, 0x0000000000000000 Exception Note: EXC_CORPSE_NOTIFY Termination Reason: Namespace SIGNAL, Code 11 Segmentation fault: 11 Terminating Process: exc handler [4470] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caladina Report post Posted January 31 from the application support/eternal lands/log [00:22:14, /Users/dev/Desktop/Eternal-Lands-1.9.6.0/json_io.cpp:30] Error: int JSON_IO_Channel_Colours::Channel_Colours::load(const char *, channelcolor *, size_t):475 Failed to open [/Users/Loupie/Library/Application Support/Eternal Lands/main/channel_colors_harlquin_knight.json] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caladina Report post Posted January 31 Loupie/Library/Application Support/Eternal Lands/main/client_state.json] [00:43:09, /Users/dev/Desktop/Eternal-Lands-1.9.6.0/json_io.cpp:30] Error: int JSON_IO_Client_State::Client_State::load(const char *):748 Failed to open [/Users/Loupie/Library/Application Support/Eternal Lands/main/client_state.json] [00:43:15, /Users/dev/Desktop/Eternal-Lands-1.9.6.0/json_io.cpp:32] Info: int JSON_IO_Character_Options::Character_Options::load():587 [/Users/Loupie/Library/Application Support/Eternal Lands/main/character_options_harlquin_knight.json] [00:43:15, /Users/dev/Desktop/Eternal-Lands-1.9.6.0/json_io.cpp:30] Error: int JSON_IO_Character_Options::Character_Options::load():591 Failed to open [/Users/Loupie/Library/Application Support/Eternal Lands/main/character_options_harlquin_knight.json] [00:43:15, /Users/dev/Desktop/Eternal-Lands-1.9.6.0/json_io.cpp:32] Info: int JSON_IO_Quickspells::Quickspells::load(const char *, int *, size_t):260 [/Users/Loupie/Library/Application Support/Eternal Lands/main/spells_harlquin_knight.json] [00:43:15, /Users/dev/Desktop/Eternal-Lands-1.9.6.0/json_io.cpp:32] Info: int JSON_IO_Recipes::Recipes::open(const char *):66 [/Users/Loupie/Library/Application Support/Eternal Lands/main/recipes_harlquin_knight.json] [00:43:15, /Users/dev/Desktop/Eternal-Lands-1.9.6.0/json_io.cpp:32] Info: int JSON_IO_Recipes::Recipes::load(recipe_entry *, size_t, recipe_item *):100 [00:43:15, /Users/dev/Desktop/Eternal-Lands-1.9.6.0/json_io.cpp:32] Info: int JSON_IO_Counters::Counters::load(const char *, const char **, int *, size_t, struct Counter **):347 [/Users/Loupie/Library/Application Support/Eternal Lands/main/counters_harlquin_knight.json] [00:43:15, /Users/dev/Desktop/Eternal-Lands-1.9.6.0/json_io.cpp:32] Info: int JSON_IO_Channel_Colours::Channel_Colours::load(const char *, channelcolor *, size_t):471 [/Users/Loupie/Library/Application Support/Eternal Lands/main/channel_colors_harlquin_knight.json] [00:43:15, /Users/dev/Desktop/Eternal-Lands-1.9.6.0/json_io.cpp:30] Error: int JSON_IO_Channel_Colours::Channel_Colours::load(const char *, channelcolor *, size_t):475 Failed to open [/Users/Loupie/Library/Application Support/Eternal Lands/main/channel_colors_harlquin_knight.json] Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caladina Report post Posted January 31 (edited) "contents of the client _state.json file" MW_windows_state last_height 1724 last_width 2304 achievements_window pos_ratio_x 1 pos_ratio_y 1 pos_x 0 pos_y 0 astro_window always_show_details true pos_ratio_x 0.7619049549102783 pos_ratio_y 1 pos_x 871 pos_y 319 bags_window cols 5 pos_ratio_x 0.7619049549102783 pos_ratio_y 1 pos_x 1015 pos_y 152 rows 10 buddy_window pos_ratio_x 0.9999998211860657 pos_ratio_y 1 pos_x 443 pos_y 260 camera x -45.003108978271484 y 0 z 296.52386474609375 zoom 4 chat_window pos_ratio_x 1.9999996423721313 pos_ratio_y 1.9953703880310059 pos_x 0 pos_y 0 console_window pos_ratio_x 1 pos_ratio_y 1 pos_x 0 pos_y 0 counters_window floating_flags 0 dialogue_window copy_excludes_newlines false copy_excludes_responses false pos_ratio_x 0.9999999403953552 pos_ratio_y 1 pos_x 683 pos_y 32 emotewin_window pos_ratio_x 0.9999998211860657 pos_ratio_y 1 pos_x 24 pos_y 262 help_window pos_ratio_x 0.7619049549102783 pos_ratio_y 1 pos_x 195 pos_y 255 selected_tab 2 hud_indicators_window background_on false border_on false disabled_flags 0 pos_x 1874 pos_y 1682 relocated false hud_timer keep_state true info_window pos_ratio_x 0.7619049549102783 pos_ratio_y 1 pos_x 762 pos_y 500 selected_tab 0 invent_window allow_equip_swap true auto_get_all true buttons_on_left false disable_text_block false dropall_nofirstrow true dropall_nolastrow true equip_grid_on_left false manual_size true mix_all true mod_click_any_cursor false pos_ratio_x 0.9999999403953552 pos_ratio_y 1 pos_x 455 pos_y 310 small_size false stoall_nofirstrow true stoall_nolastrow true item_lists_window active_list 0 disable_find false on_left true login have_language true rules_accepted true manu_window disable_keypress true pos_ratio_x 0.7619049549102783 pos_ratio_y 1 pos_x 1907 pos_y 86 map_window pos_ratio_x 1 pos_ratio_y 1 pos_x 0 pos_y 0 minimap_window open_on_start false pos_ratio_x 0.761904776096344 pos_ratio_y 1 pos_x 2493 pos_y 1201 tiles_distance 88 opts_window pos_ratio_x 2 pos_ratio_y 2 pos_x 359 pos_y 108 overhead view_ether true view_ether_bar false view_health_bar false view_hp true view_names false quantities 0 1 1 10 2 150 3 1000 4 20000 5 50000 selected 0 quest_window hide_completed false list_left_of_entries false no_auto_open false pos_ratio_x 0.7619049549102783 pos_ratio_y 1 pos_x 1383 pos_y 96 quickbar_window draggable true pos_ratio_x 0.761904776096344 pos_ratio_y 1 pos_x 2243 pos_y 128 vertical false quickspells_window movable false pos_ratio_x 0.761904776096344 pos_ratio_y 1 pos_x 2184 pos_y 128 vertical true range_window pos_ratio_x 0.9999998211860657 pos_ratio_y 1 pos_x 667 pos_y 130 spell_window pos_ratio_x 0.761904776096344 pos_ratio_y 1 pos_x -1013 pos_y 740 start_mini false stats_window pos_ratio_x 0.761904776096344 pos_ratio_y 1 pos_x 1061 pos_y 573 selected_tab 3 storage_window auto_select true autoclose true disable_filter false pos_ratio_x 0.9999999403953552 pos_ratio_y 1 pos_x 1391 pos_y 393 sort_categories true sort_items true trade_window pos_ratio_x 0.9999999403953552 pos_ratio_y 1 pos_x 1437 pos_y 578 user_menus_window background_off false border_on true include_datadir true pos_x 100 pos_y 100 standard_window_position 0 title_on true use_small_font false window_used true watched_stats 0 5 1 0 2 0 3 0 4 0 lock_selection false Edited January 31 by caladina Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caladina Report post Posted January 31 after talking to one of the el members in game it is apparent the file channel_colors_harlquin_knight.json doesnt exist, wither it should or not i have no idea but on my gf similar mac the files all seem to be similar, neither having the channel_colors_harlquin_knight.json file on her mac i can open the characters fine Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caladina Report post Posted January 31 looking at the main log on both identical mac books, mine and my gfs, there is a point in which the main logs differ, here is the point at which they differ, the working client on my gf mac: [07:20:02, /Users/dev/Desktop/Eternal-Lands-1.9.6.0/interface.c:484] Info: Using hardwired continent overview maps: 2 [07:20:02, /Users/dev/Desktop/Eternal-Lands-1.9.6.0/io/elfilewrapper.c:310] Error: Can't load zip file /Users/Loupie/Library/Application Support/Eternal Lands/unofficial_custom_clothes.zip [07:20:03, /Users/dev/Desktop/Eternal-Lands-1.9.6.0/json_io.cpp:32] Info: int JSON_IO_Client_State::Client_State::load(const char *):744 [/Users/Loupie/Library/Application Support/Eternal Lands/main/client_state.json] [07:20:24, /Users/dev/Desktop/Eternal-Lands-1.9.6.0/json_io.cpp:32] Info: int JSON_IO_Character_Options::Character_Options::load():587 [/Users/Loupie/Library/Application Support/Eternal Lands/main/character_options_cals_mule.json] [07:20:24, /Users/dev/Desktop/Eternal-Lands-1.9.6.0/json_io.cpp:30] Error: int JSON_IO_Character_Options::Character_Options::load():591 Failed to open [/Users/Loupie/Library/Application Support/Eternal Lands/main/character_options_cals_mule.json] [07:20:24, /Users/dev/Desktop/Eternal-Lands-1.9.6.0/json_io.cpp:32] Info: int JSON_IO_Quickspells::Quickspells::load(const char *, int *, size_t):260 [/Users/Loupie/Library/Application Support/Eternal Lands/main/spells_cals_mule.json] [07:20:24, /Users/dev/Desktop/Eternal-Lands-1.9.6.0/json_io.cpp:32] Info: int JSON_IO_Recipes::Recipes::open(const char *):66 [/Users/Loupie/Library/Application Support/Eternal Lands/main/recipes_cals_mule.json] [07:20:24, /Users/dev/Desktop/Eternal-Lands-1.9.6.0/json_io.cpp:32] Info: int JSON_IO_Recipes::Recipes::load(recipe_entry *, size_t, recipe_item *):100 [07:20:24, /Users/dev/Desktop/Eternal-Lands-1.9.6.0/json_io.cpp:32] Info: int JSON_IO_Counters::Counters::load(const char *, const char **, int *, size_t, struct Counter **):347 [/Users/Loupie/Library/Application Support/Eternal Lands/main/counters_cals_mule.json] [07:20:24, /Users/dev/Desktop/Eternal-Lands-1.9.6.0/json_io.cpp:32] Info: int JSON_IO_Channel_Colours::Channel_Colours::load(const char *, channelcolor *, size_t):471 [/Users/Loupie/Library/Application Support/Eternal Lands/main/channel_colors_cals_mule.json] ******* and the same section from the client on my mac that doesnt work [2023-01-31 07:18:32, /Users/dev/Desktop/Eternal-Lands/interface.c:484] Info: Using hardwired continent overview maps: 2 [2023-01-31 07:18:32, /Users/dev/Desktop/Eternal-Lands/shader/shader.c:123] Error: Compiling shader './shaders/new_water.vert' failed: ERROR: 0:1: '' : version '150' is not supported [2023-01-31 07:18:32] Last message repeated 15 times [2023-01-31 07:18:32, /Users/dev/Desktop/Eternal-Lands/io/elfilewrapper.c:310] Error: Can't load zip file /Users/Loupie/Library/Application Support/Eternal Lands/unofficial_custom_clothes.zip [2023-01-31 07:18:32, /Users/dev/Desktop/Eternal-Lands/actor_init.cpp:543] Info: Build vertex buffers for 'human female' [2023-01-31 07:18:32, /Users/dev/Desktop/Eternal-Lands/actor_init.cpp:761] Info: Build vertex buffers for 'human female' done [2023-01-31 07:18:32, /Users/dev/Desktop/Eternal-Lands/actor_init.cpp:543] Info: Build vertex buffers for 'human male' [2023-01-31 07:18:32, /Users/dev/Desktop/Eternal-Lands/actor_init.cpp:761] Info: Build vertex buffers for 'human male' done [2023-01-31 07:18:32, /Users/dev/Desktop/Eternal-Lands/actor_init.cpp:543] Info: Build vertex buffers for 'elf female' [2023-01-31 07:18:32, /Users/dev/Desktop/Eternal-Lands/actor_init.cpp:761] Info: Build vertex buffers for 'elf female' done [2023-01-31 07:18:32, /Users/dev/Desktop/Eternal-Lands/actor_init.cpp:543] Info: Build vertex buffers for 'elf male' [2023-01-31 07:18:32, /Users/dev/Desktop/Eternal-Lands/actor_init.cpp:761] Info: Build vertex buffers for 'elf male' done [2023-01-31 07:18:32, /Users/dev/Desktop/Eternal-Lands/actor_init.cpp:543] Info: Build vertex buffers for 'dwarf female' if needed i can copy the entire message from here on on mine and the working one but its long and i don't know if i'm posting anything i shouldnt as its all above my head / knowledge Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raz Report post Posted January 31 A quick google gives : https://stackoverflow.com/questions/44430594/mac-opengl-shader-error-version-150-is-not-supported https://stackoverflow.com/questions/55724301/using-opengl-on-mac-version-150-is-not-supported-error Which have slightly different answers to the same question. Either that or bin the mac and buy a proper PC. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caladina Report post Posted January 31 thats not something i understand, its above me is this something that is wrong with my mac? its been running fine for a few months and my gf's one is running fine Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Esteria Report post Posted February 1 10 hours ago, Raz said: Either that or bin the mac and buy a proper PC. Not helpful. You should know better. On 1/30/2023 at 11:02 PM, caladina said: and closed the lid as normal, when i came back they failed to launch so i shut the boxes Sounds a bit like the client crashed or was killed for whatever reason and now you have cache corruption going on. I am absolutely unfamiliar with apple devices, but try creating a new user (also means a fresh EL environment) and see if it works again. If so, inspect your normal home dir for any cache directories, especially ones containing cached shaders, and clean them out. If all else fails, strace the client and see where it fails. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Report post Posted February 1 Hi Caladina, Please try the following: 1. Browse to the “~/Library/Application Support/” folder. You can do this via the command+space spotlight search, just enter what is between the quotes. 2. Within that folder, and with no EL windows open, rename the “Eternal Lands” folder to something else. Do not delete it, or you might lose counters or other important stuff you might want to keep. 3. Try opening an EL window and let me know what happens. The settings will all be back to default, but that is as expected for now. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caladina Report post Posted February 1 (edited) the game starts from the rules page and i can log in my character with the default settings and it doesn't crash, seems to run fine after it run ok for a while i copied the item list file from the old eternal lands file and that went ok i wont copy any thing else from the old el file until i hear from you Edited February 1 by caladina Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Raz Report post Posted February 1 Good old Ben - the only one who understands the machinations of a mac *IF* this is the same as a normal PC - you should be ok to move back chat logs (if you want), counters, spells menus, key definitions etc. Just avoid the main config files. Have a look at el.ini - but I would not recommend copying back. Then setup your new config to have the features you want - avoid messing with graphics... also check that file on your other mac. (ie sitlock etc) My guess is you / EL changed something in the config file that caused a mac to fail to load.... but I am a total novice in the world of macs. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ben Report post Posted February 1 It’s hard to tell exactly what went wrong from the log file you provided (Bluap is the man when it comes to stuff like that ) but my guess would be Raz and Esteria are probably correct re: something in your config becoming corrupted. IMO the most likely scenario is that your Mac performed a software update while you were in sleep mode (that’s the default behaviour, anyway) and the act of closing all three EL windows simultaneously caused them to write to the same config files at exactly the same time, resulting in some kind of unexpected behaviour. re next steps: my advice is the same as what Raz just suggested. Don’t copy over the main config file as that’s likely the culprit here, but the character-specific JSON files (counters, spells, etc) should be fine as they are only loaded when the character is logged in, making it very unlikely they were causing your client to crash and burn on launch Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
caladina Report post Posted February 1 (edited) the other thing i noticed i cant see an el.cfg in the new el thats running ok, i saw it in the old crashed one. Thank You Ben for fixing the issue, and thanks for the rest of you too Edited February 1 by caladina Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
