Track your Secrets, and your Quests... EL-DB.com is Live

[Burn]

https://el-db.com

 

EL-DB, the unofficial Eternal Lands Database is open for beta.

 

Do you really know your game secrets? Create an account and track them!

• As you enter map secrets, they'll appear (to you) on map pages, and you can access map pages for secret areas.
• The system tracks all your secrets and will tell you how far you have to go to find them all
• On your account page, you'll get 3 random hints for secrets to help you find more (or remember to enter ones you know)
• The hints can be really easy or incredibly vague depending on how well known the secret is.
• (Guild maps are not considered secrets so aren't included, and no information is ever given to find those)

 

Game Mods - Once you've created an account, send this as a PM ingame: /EL_DB moderator

Once confirmed to actually be a mod, you'll get access to more info (currently just tp/invasion coordinate+map numbers for every location)

 

Edited August 3, 2022 by Burn

[pking]

I must say this looks amazing! Really well done! I like the look of the site and the information (especially the creature coords) is very helpful.

 

189 secrets is a lot. Can't wait to go and explore.

[Burn]

Getting 189 secrets set up so people could enter them as simple as possible isn't without its issues... I'm monitoring reports sent to /EL_DB of any difficulties entering a secret and made a few easier. One player has already entered over 130 secrets so for the most part it seems to be working. ;-)

 

 

 

Alt accounts

 

Coming features will include things like keeping track of quests: which ones you've done, notes on where you left off if in the middle of one...

 

That and other things may be desired to be done for different alt accounts.

 

I'll soon set up a system where you can add your alt character names (verified like the main account so you must be able to log in). Before the quest tracking and other stuff is added.

 

You'll be able to switch between your alt char names to track their quests or other things specific to that alt. While things like secrets that are actual-player knowledge will still show no matter which alt you're switched into.

 

So do not create accounts on EL-DB.com for your alts, just what you consider your main. You'll soon be able to add your alt char names in a different way.

 

 

(If you've already done something like this, I can fix it later, just leave your alt accounts alone for the time being, no reason to be using them right now anyway.)

 

 

Edited July 26, 2022 by Burn

[Burn]

What is considered a secret on the el-db site?

 

Little confusion there... some paths are combined and treated as one secret. If you enter the primary way to enter it, it'll open up information for the other paths as well, and all are counted as 1.

The green message you get when a secret input is accepted tells you how many paths are included with that secret, and all will show on the site on their appropriate map pages.

 

Generally speaking, if any other secret information is obvious if you've entered the correct entrance, the site will go ahead and show the obvious stuff.

 

Example of obvious: Idaloran's "Wytter's Room" secret. If you enter the correct entrance to it, all the exits from it require no knowledge to figure out, so that info is considered obvious.

 

Example of NOT obvious: Whitestone Unolas Temple has multiple secrets in the path to get to the priest. Each requires its own item and a riddle hinting at the item. Those all are separate secrets.

 

If you're uncertain if something would be considered obvious once you've actually entered the area, just view the map page to see if the secret is listed.

 

 

What are the "freebie" secrets when you first create an account?

 

When you first create an account, 6 secrets are opened to get you started, some of the most commonly known ones of course.

 

1- Isla Prima - spider cave entrances

2- Desert Pines - Fast Read room

3- Tarsengaard - Orc (daily) cave

4- EVTR - emerald mine entrance

5- Tahraji - paths to the floating summon arena

6- Tahraji - ways to leave the floating summon arena

 

(I'll admit, I added the last two because adding so many so-close secrets was just not easily doable with the system I have. They're on me, heh.)

 

 

 

Another one...

 

One secret was missing. I added it. There's now 190. ;-)

 

 

 

Edited July 27, 2022 by Burn

[Ozmondius]

Excellent job, Burn.  I'm loving the site so far.

[Burn]

New: Alt Accounts and Quest Tracking

 

- When logged in, you can add the names of your alts via your member page (confirmation must be done for each)

 

- Quest tracking: Check off all completed quests, and keep notes for those you haven't.

   This tracking can be done for all of your alts individually (the first of coming reasons to add your alt accounts).

   This is done via the new Quests page, found in the menu under Info > Quests. There's a direct link to the quest tracker on your member page as well.

 

 

(Information about your alts, which quests you've done, and even what secrets you've found are never shown to others.)

 

 

Edited August 3, 2022 by Burn

[Burn]

The story so far, with 191 possible secrets:

 

Most Secrets Entered by one player: 188

 

Players who have entered 150+ secrets: 6

Players who have entered 100+ secrets: 9

Players who have entered 50+ secrets: 12

 

 

 

 

 

And btw, an update today better organizes the NPC list, and gives more details for every NPC. For example...

https://el-db.com/Haidir.html

 

 

 

[Burn]

Updated today...

 

More Clues and How Many Have Entered Them

 

Your member page now has 5 random secret clues instead of 3. As well, a number at the end of each secret indicates how many others have already successfully submitted that secret.

 

 

 

 

 

REPORT CONTENT ISSUES!

If you see incorrect, missing, or whatever content, as a logged in user you can report it using the Content Report button at the bottom of every page.

 

Your report will be listed on your user page to keep track of it.

 

 

This includes if you're having problems submitting your secret data! Go to the specific map page you're trying to enter the secret in, click the Content Report button, then enter the problem you're having, including the specific coordinates and items you're using.

 

 

Other minor updates done as well, listed on the front of the site, including being more able to distinguish between complete and incomplete quests on your quest tracker.

 

 

 

Edited December 12, 2022 by Burn

[Burn]

EL-DB is temporarily down, seems they did a server update that shut off a necessary function. Working on it.

[Burn]

EL-DB is back online after a lot of "hmm, does it work now? No? Let's try this..." back and forth.

[Burn]

After a long delay, EL-DB has gotten a huge update...

 

- All skill pages added and include info

- Info pages for gods, nexus, attributes, special days

- Pagefinder at the top now shows results for:

• the most used or relevant internal maps (pretty much all primary internal maps, not individual generic houses and such)
• alternate or incorrect names/spellings (racoon/raccoon, turqoise/turquoise, dung/s**t , etc.)
• common short names (EWE, Milf, R2, WVF, Lenny, Ivan, EVTR, BSF, etc.)
• every god, nexus, attribute, special days...

It's much, much more functional.

 

- And a "go to top" button for all those long-scroller pages.

 

[Burn]

It appears I made a boo-boo with the Content Report system where you could report any incorrect information or add missing info using the "Content Report" button that shows at the bottom of every page on EL-DB when logged in.

 

A minor SQL query glitch led to me thinking no one was using it as I had no reports.

 

 

If you reported something, I'm only seeing it now. I'm in the process of checking them and so you'll now be getting a response for stuff that's months or even over a year old.

Sorry, my bad.

Bad, coder, bad! I'll try and find someone to spank me later for it... giggity.

 

 

 

 

[caladina]

is there a way to pull up all the secrets you have found / recorded in a single list or are they only available on each actual map the secret is on

it would be useful so we know which ones we already done
 

[Burn]

 

No, I will never provide a list that can be copy-pasted and reshared to others of secrets.

 

That's the whole reason the Hints were painstakingly created, to hint at unentered secrets, as well as to clue people on things to look for.

[caladina]

ah, ok that makes sense, and no i wasn't intending to do that, just wanted to know which ones i had already done
 

[Burn]

Real life kept me from focusing on getting EL-DB updated. Or even being in the game.

 

Finally getting around to it. The secret system on the site wasn't designed with secret changes in mind (my bad, hehe). So it's taking a bit of time to go through and revamp... changing secrets that have changed and adding the new ones.

 

 

But I'm working on it now, and with luck should have the site updated around the end of the month.

[Burn]

 

 

A shutdown of EL-DB will be coming at some point before the end of the month 

so I can update all the data and the secret system.

 

No idea how long the shutdown will be at this point, there's a lot to deal with when it comes to the secret system. I expect it to be less than a day, but could be two.

 

During shutdown...

If you're doing secrets, you'll just have to wait to add more.

If you're using the quest tracker, you won't be able to see your quest statuses while it's down.

 

 

 

 

 

How will secrets be handled?

If a secret from 1.9.6 has changed and you've entered it, it'll be reverted so you have to re-enter it with its new information. (On the positive side, if you've done most all of the secrets, you'll easily see from hints which ones changed.)

Otherwise deleted secrets will be removed of course, and all new ones added. No one will be at 100%. 

 

 

(I also have a new feature for the site concerning maps that will heavily reduce the time it takes to find the right page to enter a secret, but it'll come later in May. I gotta get the 1.9.7 data updated first.)

[Burn]

Almost ready... going through all the secrets and finding the changed or removed ones as well as making sure all the new ones are added was no simple task. Shame on me for not making it simpler.

 

 

 

Expecting to take the site down this weekend for the update.

[caladina]

much appreciated Burn

[Burn]

Updates are complete! (I hope.)

 

You can now track secrets added with 1.9.7. Among other things.

 

Details in the news on the front page.

 

https://el-db.com

[Burn]

 

 

BEING WORKED ON:

https://el-db.com/tempstuff/map-file-pages-alpha.jpg 

(too large to directly show here - also just getting started, so subject to heavy change before it goes live)


Map file pages that show the map by its file name, and lists every location available on that map file.

 

Besides making individual areas more easily accessed, this should address the most difficult part of tracking secrets. In an example like the PV Magic School linked above, you currently have to click from internal to internal to find the correct internal.

 

With this page, you can click directly to any individual area.

 

 

(I'm hoping to set it up so you can click on the map image itself and go to the location you click on, depending on how difficult that is. But even without that, it should be much easier to find individual internal areas.)

 

And yes, you can click on and view secret areas directly from these pages. The way to get into them remains secret, of course.

 

 

 

The map files will be listed on the Maps page, or you can type the file name in the search to go directly to one.

 

The map's file name is on the map image itself, above/below the single or multi combat info, like so:

Edited May 10 by Burn

[Burn]

It's done, no more excuses that it's too hard to find internal locations...

 

Map File Pages are here!

 

Example: https://el-db.com/Map_File_map11_insmsch.html

 

There's a page for each map file.

 

You can click directly on the image to go to the page of the room or cave or whatever that you want to view info for! Or use the location list on the side.

 

Map File Pages are listed in the Maps section, or you can enter the map file name in the Find Page bar.

 

 

Details on it, and a couple other site updates just made right before posting this, on the front page: https://el-db.com .

Edited May 11 by Burn

[Burn]

And the update is...

Edited May 15 by Burn

[Burn]

 

 

Now available on https://el-db.com

 

 

Track your found Guild Maps

 

Think you know every entrance? You really don't.  Remember that with each client update, some entrances have changed, including several with the last client update. Chances are some you knew, you don't know any more.

 

 

(Out of respect for the owners of these paid maps, this tracking system is very limited, but will allow you to know if you've actually found them all.)

 

* There's now a list of all guild maps on your user page when logged in to the site.

 

* Enter guild map entrances the same as secrets by going to their entrance map and entering the info there. Your user page list will show which ones you've entered.

 

* Absolutely NO HINTS will be provided for guild maps.

 

* Some guild maps have two entrances. You won't be told which ones do, but you'll know you found them if you enter all 37 entrances for the 31 guild maps.

 

* This is only for tracking the ones you've found. It won't provide any further info about the map, or any of its internal secrets.

 

 

 

 

[Burn]

24 hours:

 

Most guild entrances tracked by a single player so far: 19 (of 37)

 

Guild entrances no one has tracked yet: 14

 

Wanna see the tracking of those who bragged they knew most or all of them. ;-)