Roja Report post Posted February 1, 2005 Ok this is something fully client side I believe, that someone can help with which we'd like for the next update. I want to make a Help icon at the bottom of the screen that pops up a Help window. It will have a listing of all the hotkeys, and tips and tricks for newbies to understand the interface and other things in the game. The icon is already made for it, it is the ? in gamebuttons.bmp. I think this should be pretty easy...can someone do it? I will make a listing of what should go in this window and how it should be soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grum Report post Posted February 1, 2005 I can do it, but we have a problem, because in 640x480 resolution, the icon bar is full. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sadez Report post Posted February 1, 2005 Added the help window, ctrl+h to display it. To add content just create an encyclopedia page named HelpPage. And Grum is right...it does not show at 640x480. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roja Report post Posted February 1, 2005 shoot..i forgot that last icon spot was taken up with the newest icon already... ok i'll think some more on where to put it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Platyna Report post Posted February 1, 2005 (edited) Hmz, Roja, didn't you wanted it to be the part of the Encyclopedia - hotkeys etc? Regards. Edited February 1, 2005 by Platyna Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roja Report post Posted February 1, 2005 originally, yes, but i want this ? icon because everyone will immediately know it, it's in so many programs..a universal help symbol. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Platyna Report post Posted February 1, 2005 (edited) Well, so maybe add a "?" to the book that is the symbol of Encyclopedia? Or maybe "?" ON that book what is very common symbol of manual? It is kinda good when everything is in one place... Regards. Edited February 1, 2005 by Platyna Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roja Report post Posted February 1, 2005 That's not a bad idea...good thinking Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placid Report post Posted February 1, 2005 Well, so maybe add a "?" to the book that is the symbol of Encyclopedia? Or maybe "?" ON that bookwhat is very common symbol of manual? It is kinda good when everything is in one place... Regards. I think that makes sense. What is the problem with increasing the window size? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Platyna Report post Posted February 1, 2005 Oh yes, please! Regards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grum Report post Posted February 1, 2005 What is the problem with increasing the window size? People with low end machines, developers who have a test game tucked away in a corner among several edit windows, people that play secretly because their dad has forbidden them to, etc. 640x480 resolution has been offered from the start, it's a bad idea to remove it, imho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Platyna Report post Posted February 1, 2005 (edited) No one said it has to have size of the USA but two cm of height more would be great. If it could have stats window size I could do very nice two columns of content too... Regards. Edited February 1, 2005 by Platyna Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grum Report post Posted February 1, 2005 two more cm and it will always overlap with the hud on 640x480 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placid Report post Posted February 1, 2005 No one said it has to have size of the USA but two cm of height more would be great. If it could havestats window size I could do very nice two columns of content too... Regards. What I believe Grum is saying, is that in 640x480 window resolution, it will be too small. Can you not increase your window res. to say, 1024 Plat? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Platyna Report post Posted February 1, 2005 I have checked 640x480 - looks fine. Anyway there is still an option of stats window size. Regards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Roja Report post Posted February 1, 2005 The only other thing we can possibly do is decrease the size of the icons. but for that to be of any worth they'd have to be 1/4 of the size they are now, and that's too small :/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Platyna Report post Posted February 1, 2005 (edited) Well, Okay 2 cm is too much, then I suggest stats window size. After I think about that, it looks like I could save alot of place making longer lines and make it wider than actually wrapping them and making it higher. Regards. Edited February 1, 2005 by Platyna Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Placid Report post Posted February 1, 2005 Well, Okay 2 cm is too much, then I suggest stats window size. After I think about that, it looks like Icould save alot of place making longer lines and make it wider than actually wrapping them and making it higher. Regards. Trouble is, I think the stats window is perfectly readable, would it being width-ways make it harder to read? Is this just something you have found when your doing something, or is it a client-wide problem? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grum Report post Posted February 1, 2005 No one said it has to have size of the USA but two cm of height more would be great. If it could havestats window size I could do very nice two columns of content too... Regards. What I believe Grum is saying, is that in 640x480 window resolution, it will be too small. Can you not increase your window res. to say, 1024 Plat? No that's not what i'm saying. The windows are the same size in every screen resolution, but the total amount of screen space is less. That's why an encyclopedia window on 640x480 looks relatively larger than on 1024x768. The only other thing we can possibly do is decrease the size of the icons. Let's not do that. It'd be a waste of good-looking icons. Well, Okay 2 cm is too much, then I suggest stats window size. After I think about that, it looks like I could save alot of place making longer lines and make it wider than actually wrapping them and making it higher. That'd be better, but not ideal. Do you really need this space. Do we really need the information in there? Not trying to thread on anyone's toes, just asking. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Platyna Report post Posted February 1, 2005 (edited) Ad 1. And Encyclopedia windows is not readable? It is semitransparent anyway. Ad 2. I agree that icon shouldn't be resized, they are small enought, smaller would look bad and be non comfortable to use. Ad 3. Actually yes. Maps section is already a pain, it looks incredibly bad. Weapons and Armors section - I can't imagine it when the new items will be added, all these magic swords etc. I will have to split that section or make two pages which, I think, will be non comfortable or other acrobatic evolutions. Roja is doing pictures of animals and monsters - I think she would need some more space for these. Well stats window takes whole width of EL client at 640x480 so, maybe Encyclopedia window could take like 0.5 cm below max. height? Or even whole that space since you can open/close window by clicking on hud icon? Especially that...come on who plays at 640x480...:-P Regards. Edited February 1, 2005 by Platyna Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sadez Report post Posted February 1, 2005 The only other thing we can possibly do is decrease the size of the icons. but for that to be of any worth they'd have to be 1/4 of the size they are now, and that's too small :/ Decreasing them to 30x30 is enough to have one more icon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
duran Report post Posted February 1, 2005 sadez, after you add something i keep getting "no newline at end of file"... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vegar Report post Posted February 1, 2005 (edited) Someone have to add sector.o and help.o to the makefiles and remove the strange newlines from help.h edit: clicking the help button causes a segfault Edited February 1, 2005 by Vegar Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Platyna Report post Posted February 1, 2005 I thought, since Roja liked my idea about not making separate function for something that was supposed to be in the Encyclopedia, that help window is no longer needed... Regards. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
duran Report post Posted February 1, 2005 the reason it segfaults vegar, is that it have no error handleing when a file it needs to read (xml based) is missing. and platyna, i think you talked about it being a part of the encyclopedia after sadez added the code the the cvs... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
