Acelon Report post Posted February 25, 2008 Well, to put it simple, Nvidia doesn't make video cards, they make video card chips. The Go chips are used by laptop manufacturers to incorporate them in their laptops. Nvidia does make drivers for all their chips (I mean, for the supported chips), but since the Go chips are used in a slightly different way than the normal ones (they need to support more power management, different resolutions, and so on), the mainstream nvidia drivers won't work with them, so the laptop manufacturers need a customized version that works for their specific laptop. In this particular case, you will need to convince your laptop maker to provide you with the latest nvidia drivers out there (OpenGL version 2.1.2, as reported by the video card). Well I emailed the alienware support center. Hopefully they'll respond. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Entropy Report post Posted February 25, 2008 Fedora, are you using a 16bpp color mode? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Entropy Report post Posted February 25, 2008 groomsh: Does the flickering thing happen with the fog off? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Entropy Report post Posted February 25, 2008 Well, to put it simple, Nvidia doesn't make video cards, they make video card chips. The Go chips are used by laptop manufacturers to incorporate them in their laptops. Nvidia does make drivers for all their chips (I mean, for the supported chips), but since the Go chips are used in a slightly different way than the normal ones (they need to support more power management, different resolutions, and so on), the mainstream nvidia drivers won't work with them, so the laptop manufacturers need a customized version that works for their specific laptop. In this particular case, you will need to convince your laptop maker to provide you with the latest nvidia drivers out there (OpenGL version 2.1.2, as reported by the video card). Well I emailed the alienware support center. Hopefully they'll respond. I am sure they will just tell you to contact the video game people and ask them to provide a better version. This is what the fucktards from Intel told me when I told them that I am the developer of Eternal Lands and I want to speak with their drivers department people, to report a few problems. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
groomsh Report post Posted February 25, 2008 Eh i got "interesting" effects in Iscalrith [renderfog on in Iscalrith] renderfog off in Iscalrith Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
groomsh Report post Posted February 25, 2008 (edited) groomsh: Does the flickering thing happen with the fog off? yes, it happens when it's off Tested it a bit more ... it happens also when fog is on ... It happens in both igloos on IOTF too (teleport flickers), but not in that one in Iscalrith ... Edited February 25, 2008 by groomsh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Entropy Report post Posted February 25, 2008 Ok, found another bug that has to do with my compiler: If you rename the shaders directory (or remove the .vert files) but your video card supports the actor vertex programs, it will crash. I'll provide a fixed version later in the day (after I wake up). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fedora Report post Posted February 25, 2008 mmm...i'm in windowed mode and the system uses 32bit colors, so i guess EL is 32bit too. Moreover if i try to switch to 16bit (both windowed and fullscreen) it reverts back to 32. Maybe is the lack of framebuffer? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maxine Report post Posted February 25, 2008 with the 22_02_07 version I can logon but not interact with creatures. with the 24_02_07 version I get the runtime error as soon as the game starts loading (long before login screen). Renaming shaders folders makes no difference. Wondering why the versions are not named xx_02_08 Videocard: integrated Intel on Dell laptop, running poorman Hope this helps. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Entropy Report post Posted February 25, 2008 Ok, if you don't have a frame buffer, turn off the reflections and shadows, see if that makes a difference. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Entropy Report post Posted February 25, 2008 with the 22_02_07 version I can logon but not interact with creatures.with the 24_02_07 version I get the runtime error as soon as the game starts loading (long before login screen). Renaming shaders folders makes no difference. Wondering why the versions are not named xx_02_08 Videocard: integrated Intel on Dell laptop, running poorman Hope this helps. Yes, that happens if you remove/rename the shaders dir or the .vert things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fedora Report post Posted February 25, 2008 (edited) Ok, if you don't have a frame buffer, turn off the reflections and shadows, see if that makes a difference. No difference, but i noticed an interesting thing. If i stand behind a npc and move the cursor from me to it, it changes from the eye cursor (on me) to the walk cursor (on NPC). So it seems actors are there, but are not recognized as such, just as obstacles. EDIT: i also got this: [11:44:50] /Volumes/Home/esperimenti/elx/elc/macosx/../textures.c.load_bmp8_color_key:1568 - OpenGL stack underflow Edited February 25, 2008 by Fedora Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gen_Axis Report post Posted February 25, 2008 (edited) Well, to put it simple, Nvidia doesn't make video cards, they make video card chips. The Go chips are used by laptop manufacturers to incorporate them in their laptops. Nvidia does make drivers for all their chips (I mean, for the supported chips), but since the Go chips are used in a slightly different way than the normal ones (they need to support more power management, different resolutions, and so on), the mainstream nvidia drivers won't work with them, so the laptop manufacturers need a customized version that works for their specific laptop. In this particular case, you will need to convince your laptop maker to provide you with the latest nvidia drivers out there (OpenGL version 2.1.2, as reported by the video card). Thats true... but you dont have to kick fight with the horse Use your mind As for newest ForceWare drivers for GeForce Go serie cards (for Windows) Try: http://www.laptopvideo2go.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=9243 It works for me, it seems newest drivers match for all Go computers, but INF file saying they are not. So you have to simply 'trick' the installer/updater. Short version: 1. Download newst ForceWare drivers from nvidia. 2. Unzip it (it will start installing, but break cuz no compatible card detected, but that doesn't matter... 3. Copy the INF file mentioned in thread I posted to directory where you unzipped drivers. 4. Update graphics drivers using your Admin Panel from location with unzipped drivers. Should help... it does for me :] Pls, let me know if it works for you too. Edit: comments Edited February 25, 2008 by Gen_Axis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
groomsh Report post Posted February 25, 2008 There are squares appearing on water surface (with water shader quality 2) in regular intervals. See [this] video (3.8MB) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LabRat Report post Posted February 25, 2008 Your client crashes when login is completed with shaders/ but crashes during initial loading at 'Initialising OpenGL Extensions' if I rename shaders/ Hope I am not out of line posting this Bringing together a couple of threads I can successfully compile and run the client although I do see a lot of flickering, but it crashes when I %use_animation_program 1 ingame. Your latest compile options post mixed with my use_animation_program default to 0 patch works fine for me. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
ago Report post Posted February 25, 2008 (edited) Bringing together a couple of threads I can successfully compile and run the client although I do see a lot of flickering, but it crashes when I %use_animation_program 1 ingame. You can also disable the character shaders with el main --use_animation_program=0 No need to patch and compile yourself. HTH Edited February 25, 2008 by ago Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khalai Report post Posted February 25, 2008 (edited) I cannot even get to login screen. Log started at 2008-02-25 12:51:05 localtime (Střední Evropa (běžný čas)) [12:51:05] Error: Server profile not found in servers.lst for server: Lands\el.exe". Failover to server: main. [12:51:05] Using the server profile: main [12:51:05] Error opening sound configuration file [12:51:05] unknown shield property "missile" Last message repeated 119 times [12:51:12] Error: Can't open file "quest.log" [12:51:12] * server www.eternal-lands.com filename [url="http://www.eternal-lands.com/updates150/files.lst"]http://www.eternal-lands.com/updates150/files.lst[/url] [12:51:12] Downloading [url="http://www.eternal-lands.com/updates150/files.lst"]http://www.eternal-lands.com/updates150/files.lst[/url] from www.eternal-lands.com [12:51:12] Finished downloading [url="http://www.eternal-lands.com/updates150/files.lst"]http://www.eternal-lands.com/updates150/files.lst[/url] [12:51:12] * server www.eternal-lands.com filename [url="http://www.eternal-lands.com/updates/custom_files.lst"]http://www.eternal-lands.com/updates/custom_files.lst[/url] [12:51:12] Downloading [url="http://www.eternal-lands.com/updates/custom_files.lst"]http://www.eternal-lands.com/updates/custom_files.lst[/url] from www.eternal-lands.com [12:51:13] Finished downloading [url="http://www.eternal-lands.com/updates/custom_files.lst"]http://www.eternal-lands.com/updates/custom_files.lst[/url] [12:57:55] Bad light (number 1) when loading './maps/cont2map18.elm'; co-ords [-0.764134 91.490128 6.899997] colour [1.000000 1.000000 2.999999] Edited February 25, 2008 by Khalai Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Maxine Report post Posted February 25, 2008 (edited) Using the --use_animation_program=0 option (with poorman still on) works with the _24_ client. I can interact with creatures. without this options it crashes with the runtime error. Thanks ago/HTH. Edited February 25, 2008 by Maxine Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Fedora Report post Posted February 25, 2008 latest Xaphier commit (30 minutes ago) solved the selection bug for NPCs...still cant click on monsters tough. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Khalai Report post Posted February 25, 2008 (edited) Using the --use_animation_program=0 option (with poorman still on) works with the _24_ client. I can interact with creatures. without this options it crashes with the runtime error. Thanks ago/HTH. Same here, now I can at least login and begin testing. Edited February 25, 2008 by Khalai Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LabRat Report post Posted February 25, 2008 Bringing together a couple of threads I can successfully compile and run the client although I do see a lot of flickering, but it crashes when I %use_animation_program 1 ingame. You can also disable the character shaders with el main --use_animation_program=0 No need to patch and compile yourself. HTH I can't believe I forgot about that way of doing it in the client well at least I got the right variable Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
love42 Report post Posted February 25, 2008 (edited) Video card: RADEON 9200 Series DDR x86/SSE2 Vendor ID: ATI Technologies Inc. OpenGL Version: 1.3.1072 WinXP Release My driver version is 6.14.0010.6614 from the ATI website. This is the newest driver for my card I have been able to find. It crashed when I tried to logon. I was in PV when I logged off. And since you said it will still crash on some maps I will try again after I'm done harving in PV and go to a diff map. When I do I will update this post. Also I did try renameing the shaders file but I got a runtime error. I also tried turning shadows and reflections off in the config file. Crashed when trying to log in in trassian also. Edited February 25, 2008 by love42 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Wingalings Report post Posted February 25, 2008 (edited) Well, to put it simple, Nvidia doesn't make video cards, they make video card chips. The Go chips are used by laptop manufacturers to incorporate them in their laptops. Nvidia does make drivers for all their chips (I mean, for the supported chips), but since the Go chips are used in a slightly different way than the normal ones (they need to support more power management, different resolutions, and so on), the mainstream nvidia drivers won't work with them, so the laptop manufacturers need a customized version that works for their specific laptop. In this particular case, you will need to convince your laptop maker to provide you with the latest nvidia drivers out there (OpenGL version 2.1.2, as reported by the video card). Well, as expected, I've been given the run-around! I contacted HP's live-chat support and chatted with a very helpful pleasant person who unfortunately could tell me nothing, nor help me with anything. I've also tried contacting nvidia, but I'm not holding my breath. I am tempted to try Gen_Axis's h4x, I think I know enough about backing up and rolling back to not screw up my system permanently if it doesn't work... wish me luck! EDIT: Pls, let me know if it works for you too. It worked!! Thank you Gen_Axis Edited February 25, 2008 by Wingalings Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
tork_unib Report post Posted February 25, 2008 So far no major issues using el_pre_rc_24_02_07.exe. I will edit if/when they occur. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites