Guest Report post Posted March 14, 2004 k so last night i saw swordmantim sit in the spot on the left side near pumpkins in lakeside inn, i did a #abuse and sativa came. sativa said it was ALLOWED since there was no resources behind the counter. so i was like w/e. today i logged in, sat in same spot as swordmantim did, only people behind counter were ak1 and xfigx, neither wanted out. so i had no reason to move. so then i guess some mods came, learner and leeloo. they stood there for awhile, and after a few minutes i got warped to begining spot. no pms explaining anything, no nothing. so i go back, sit in the same spot. learner asks me to move, i say no because sativa said it was alright. he starts saying move move, i say no and he bans me. logs below; what sativa said: Sativa: afk you have no need to go back here afk: dosnt matter afk: he is blocking a path afk: move him Sativa: yeah they changed it. DealerOfDeath: oh my afk: k so if i had something important to trade to fei i couldnt afk: because sword is blocking SwordmanTim: lol FeI: but u dont SwordmanTim: he could move closer Sativa: he is not blocking a resource SwordmanTim: and he hates u FeI wants to trade with you. Use the trade icon then click on him/her in order to accept the trade. FeI: dot u Sativa: you can still get to and use myrl DealerOfDeath: Lady Sativa, be careful, this one thinks respect only exists in the minds of simpletons. DealerOfDeath: sword is my guard FeI: i got to afk i can trade with him what happened today: SirKillAlot: afk, move Ak1: pff what do you do to make enough $ to Ak1: no Ak1: he isn't blocking afk: a mod told me yesterday, i dont have to SirKillAlot: yes, he is Ak1: you don't need back here Ak1: there is no resource XfigX: he needs to get 2 me Ak1: No he doesn't... afk: fig you can stand near me afk: and trade him XfigX: yes he does SirKillAlot: ack SirKillAlot: fig brb Ak1: if you want out fig, he has to move XfigX: then ak1 would steal my bag dummy SirKillAlot: i'll telly back there Ak1: afk Ak1: you have to move Ak1: if they want out Ak1: k? afk: no Ak1: you have to You see a bread! You see a carrot! You see: afk You see a barrel! You see a shelf! You see a bread! You see a shelf! SirKillAlot: bloody hell afk: language please Ak1: Language SirKillAlot: bloody hell isn't a problem XfigX: he wasn't pointing it 2 anyone Ak1: No need for it either Ak1: try Ak1: fiddle sticks XfigX: if i said bob u suck ass then u can get in trouble for that Ak1: ok? SirKillAlot: ak1 shh afk: ak1 shh XfigX: 1.1k leather pants grr still 500 to make XfigX: ello leeloo SirKillAlot: leeloo SirKillAlot: ak1 just moved. SirKillAlot: he was sitting next to myrl XfigX: lol ^_~ Ak1: Ya, wasn't even aware of it Ak1: try asking next time SirKillAlot: enough with your lies. Ak1: stop causing trouble friend SirKillAlot: i'm not causing trouble, you were blocking senior SirKillAlot: and once i call a mod and she pops up you move SirKillAlot: oh i wonder. Ak1: I don't know if she was a mod or not... Ak1: I haven't been around the game long enough to know the mods Ak1: I just finished making some gloves and realized i was in the way afk: who is senior Welcome to White Stone, Lakeside Village You see: SirKillAlot afk: k wth Ak1: fig when did you start manu? afk: someone was sitting in the SAME spot and a mod said it was ok XfigX: err 1-2 weeks ago afk: and no one ever asked ME if they wanted back there You see: afk Ak1: Wow...almost up to tit serp level in 2 weeks afk: nothing to say mods? afk: i want an apology Ak1: Leeloo is a SMod...I told you, if someone wants out you have to move Ak1: You don't have to mvoe if they want in though afk: yes but did you see anyone ask me afk: no afk: no one asked to go back there afk: or to get out Ak1: I was told by Sativa they shouldn't have to ask Ak1: :/ afk: wth afk: so im supposed to GUESS what people want Ak1: duh Ak1: i got a CRPL game tonight Ak1: vs DP O.o afk: i hope yuo lose Ak1: laff XfigX: harsh.. afk: you take staffs side Ak1: It's the newbie playoffs afk: your axt Ak1: I'm not...just tryign to keep u from trouble afk: laf at that Ak1: laf at ur face Learner: move afk afk: your mom afk: why learner afk: what do you want back there Learner: I'm asking you to move Leeloo: You are intentionally blocking. Ak1: For the last time. Ak1: You only have to mvoe Ak1: if you are back here You were booted by Learner! Your IP is banned. That means that you, or someone from your IP did something very nasty, so we had to block this IP addess. If you believe this ban was unjustified, or promise to respect the rules from now on, please post in the Bans section of our forums (on www.eternal-lands.com) Your IP is banned. That means that you, or someone from your IP did something very nasty, so we had to block this IP addess. If you believe this ban was unjustified, or promise to respect the rules from now on, please post in the Bans section of our forums (on www.eternal-lands.com) Your IP is banned. That means that you, or someone from your IP did something very nasty, so we had to block this IP addess. If you believe this ban was unjustified, or promise to respect the rules from now on, please post in the Bans section of our forums (on www.eternal-lands.com) Welcome to Eternal Lands, the Beta Version. If you are new here, please talk to Raven, she will guide you through the game. You can not leave the newbie island unless you talk to her, and do what she says. If you want to support the game, and you can afford it, please consider making a small donation. Even 5 USD helps. XfigX: ... SirKillAlot: ... Learner: move afk or your gone again afk: does ak1 fig or sir want to get out XfigX: didn't u ban him learner :? Leeloo: dynamic ip. Learner: yes, he change IP's is all SirKillAlot: i thought it took 20 minutes to get unbaned You were booted by Learner! well im on dialup so its easy to avoid the bans but i guess ill sit this one out, review this quickly. either way ONE of the staff are lying. -afk Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Learner Report post Posted March 14, 2004 The staff have leeway and you were asked to move and even blocked again after you were moved out of the way. Enough said. I banned you and if you continue to do it, you'll have fewer IPS to play from! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted March 14, 2004 enough said nothing, im stuck between 2 staff members views on this. and i took sativas side. so take it up with sativa. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sativa Report post Posted March 14, 2004 What you failed to mention was that I had told you that you were harrassing which I could have removed you for. When you wanted in yesterday you were not conducting any business with anyone behind the counter. That does make a difference as to how things are handled. Since I wasn't there it's hard to say how I would have handled today's episode but from what I see in the log you posted the results would have very well been the same. By your own refusal to let people back out of there you sealed your own fate. Ak1: afk Ak1: you have to move Ak1: if they want out Ak1: k? afk: no I honestly wish that since thieving is allowed that also policing were allowed. Were it up to me your chars would be put into hard labor camps and none of you would profit from another's labors. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Entropy Report post Posted March 14, 2004 Ok, so do you promise you will not block paths again? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted March 15, 2004 whats the use, if sword could get away with it and i couldnt, how is that fair. and how would removing me from an area prevent me from harrassing, and i was harrassing no one. When you wanted in yesterday you were not conducting any business with anyone behind the counter. That does make a difference as to how things are handled. same happened today, no one wanted in, no one wanted out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SirKillAlot Report post Posted March 15, 2004 afk your not using common sence here, it didn't matter at the point in time wether anyone wanted in or out, and btw i did want in so i could go by fig, you also REFUSED to move for learner, learner (a dev) asks you to move, and you don't? you deserved what you got Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Sativa Report post Posted March 15, 2004 afk, You want to whine about what is fair? How is it fair for you or anyone else to take something that isn't yours? If you are going to post an argument for your side of things at least have it be something with backbone. :evil: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Entropy Report post Posted March 15, 2004 Can someone please give me a digest of what actually happened? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rebootedrock Report post Posted March 15, 2004 from what ive read and learner has told me ... afk was hanging around in the same place earlier when sativa came by, no one was there and therefore, no big. Then later 2 guys were there and after a bit 1 asked to leave and afk refused. (tmth) he comes back does same.(ban) he has new IP and comes back. (ban) then here we are. hope thats right Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Entropy Report post Posted March 15, 2004 What exactly was he blocking? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted March 15, 2004 nothing, and the only people behind the counter were xfigx and ak1, NEITHER wanted out. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SirKillAlot Report post Posted March 15, 2004 alright entropy, he was blocking the 1 tile between the pumpkings at lakeside general, i wanted to go back by fig (to help protect his bag from being nabbed by ak1 if he was to lag out) and afk refused, him and ak1 started harassing me telling me no they won't move and stuff like that, so i call learner, he shows up, he refuses to move for LeeLoo and learner, learner beams him, he comes back sits down learner asks him to move, learner Ip bans him, he comes back on another ip and refuses to move again, learner bans him again end of story. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Entropy Report post Posted March 15, 2004 So if two mods told you to move, and they teleported you out, isn't that a reason good enough to move from that spot? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rebootedrock Report post Posted March 15, 2004 Yes it is. (the logic for coming back is soo flawed... ) :? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Learner Report post Posted March 15, 2004 nothing, and the only people behind the counter were xfigx and ak1, NEITHER wanted out. But, he was still blocking a resource of an access pathway and refused to move when asked. He also put himself back in exactly the same spot and refused to move again after having been sent away. He was given far chance and fair warning and yet refused. You keep trying to hide behind legalism and arguments when he was asked by a person in authority to take a very reasonabl action. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SirKillAlot Report post Posted March 15, 2004 reboot, ent ak1 and afk have no logic. Me and Sativa both know how these 2 can be, always bending the rules, trying to get out or around everything, and learner is right, learner did the right thing and it shouldn't have been changed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted March 15, 2004 so im supposed to move because sirkillalot wants to PROTECT his freind? what kind of grounds is that. and like i said, i was siting in same spot sword was in, sativa said it did NOT block any resources since myrl can be accessed from the front. i dont really care that much any more entropy, i have 2 mods telling me 2 different things and im getting caught in it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
rebootedrock Report post Posted March 15, 2004 Put simply , i dont think he should be unbanned. and for people like this entropy, you need to ban a character, not an ip.(that would help ) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SirKillAlot Report post Posted March 15, 2004 reboot learner suggested a char ban and yes afk PROTECTING MY FRIENDS FROM THIEVES LIKE YOU, thats what friends do, they protect each other. i won't go any further Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Entropy Report post Posted March 15, 2004 Blocking a path to a resource, wether NPC, harvest point, ship, or just a player resource, such a narrow path that leads to a bag, is innaceptable. Blocking is innaceptable, and that's it. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted March 15, 2004 i totally agree with you entropy untill sativa allowed swordmantim to just sit there. ill end it when i get a good excuse from sativa why he was allowed to sit there. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Learner Report post Posted March 15, 2004 She made a mistake, simple as that. Why drag it out? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted March 15, 2004 i got banned for her poor mistake is why. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Learner Report post Posted March 15, 2004 No, you were not banned for her mistake. You were banned for willfully blocking and ignoring my instructions to move. That is why your were Tported out first to begin with. The best thing you could have done was move (or not blocked after the Tport) and then raised the question about what you were seeing as confusing instructions. Instead you persisted in blocking and even circumventing the original ban and blocking again while refusing to move. One more quick question, why don't you join the Forums instead of being a guest? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites