boderoshan Report post Posted January 12, 2004 please help me find it. i been going round and round in circles round the shops in white stone and i cant find the trader selling it. help, its driving me mad Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Puntif Report post Posted January 12, 2004 You have to find a player character to sell it to you or make it yourself. No shop sellls it. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
CALAMAX Report post Posted January 12, 2004 I'll give you one for free. PM me in game, I'm CALAMAX. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boderoshan Report post Posted January 12, 2004 i'll take you up on that offer. cheers mate Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted January 13, 2004 You said one can make it. What do I need to it? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grum Report post Posted January 13, 2004 You need lvl 9 manufacture, 3 rabbit fur, 2 fox fur, 2 thread, and a needle. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Report post Posted January 17, 2004 where you are the needles from? on which way, i became manufacture levels? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grum Report post Posted January 19, 2004 A needle can be bought at the general store. You can level up in manufacture by manufacturing items Start with fur gloves, and work your way up through fur hats and fox scarves to fur cloaks. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Colossus Report post Posted January 20, 2004 One of the first mistakes I made was to buy a needle for every item i was going to make. You only need 1 needle for any sewing you will do. In my mind, the Needle should fall into the "Tool" category and not the "Misc." category. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grum Report post Posted January 20, 2004 Yes, it should. Doesn't it? Tsk, tsk... EDIT: btw: idea, how about being able to manufacture a needle from a bone? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Puntif Report post Posted January 20, 2004 I think they must be steel needles for the kind of heavy leather work needed for making armor. I was trying to think of a way for them to be manufactured in game terms. My impression is that manufacturing requires at least 2 items. If I'm wrong then you'd still have to use up a whole bar of steel to make 1 needle which doesn't make sense economically. I think needle making must be done in a factory setting where they can make a hundred needles from one bar of steel. I suppose instead you could smelt 1 iron ore and 1 coal into a steel wire, then manufacture the wire into a needle. That smelting operation would be a higher alch level than required to make a bar of steel, I think. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grum Report post Posted January 20, 2004 I think they must be steel needles for the kind of heavy leather work needed for making armor. Yeah, good point. Maybe you could use bone needles for fur items. Make it a low lvl skill, maybe even a zero level skill like bone powder, and you can level your way up without going to the general store. Oh wait, no, you need thread. I suppose instead you could smelt 1 iron ore and 1 coal into a steel wire, then manufacture the wire into a needle. That smelting operation would be a higher alch level than required to make a bar of steel, I think. Sounds reasonable. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Puntif Report post Posted January 20, 2004 I had ideas for the thread too. You could harvest cotton (or flax) and make thread. (From the department of "I wanna be able to harvest or make everything in the game") Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Grum Report post Posted January 20, 2004 Or hemp, which you can also dry and sell to other players to smoke Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Learner Report post Posted January 20, 2004 I think they must be steel needles for the kind of heavy leather work needed for making armor. I was trying to think of a way for them to be manufactured in game terms. My impression is that manufacturing requires at least 2 items. If I'm wrong then you'd still have to use up a whole bar of steel to make 1 needle which doesn't make sense economically. I think needle making must be done in a factory setting where they can make a hundred needles from one bar of steel. I suppose instead you could smelt 1 iron ore and 1 coal into a steel wire, then manufacture the wire into a needle. That smelting operation would be a higher alch level than required to make a bar of steel, I think. And have it make 10 needles, not one. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites