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  2. Posted · Report reply

    Today I got the task to harv 150 valerian in PV (350,154).

    I went there and started to harv (the spot is rather unambigous, only a single flower there), but even after 301 harvest there was no message (no exca cape was used)

    Going back to Xaquelina I expected to have the "Need help" talk option, indicating that the quest is unfinished. However, she offers the "Got your stuff" talk option now.

    Taking this option I would expect her to take the flowers and spill the XP, however, she complains "you need to harvest 150 valerian" instead - although I had the over 300 valerians in my inv at that time.

     

    There's no question about the fact that you must get the popup messagage. Go back and try standing in that exact spot at 350.154 and pick a piece closest to you. Either way you have to get a popup before going back.

     

    I did so today, after 62 Valerians (without exca cape or perk) I got the popup message. For me this is fine. Still something was odd in this case, since there was no popup for over 300 harvests and Xaquelinas talk options changed...

    The spot is, by the way, rather unambiguous, there is a single flower at 350,154.

     

    Anyway thanks for the fast help and in general for the great effort you put into the game :-)

  3. Posted · Report reply

    Today I got the task to harv 150 valerian in PV (350,154).

    I went there and started to harv (the spot is rather unambigous, only a single flower there), but even after 301 harvest there was no message (no exca cape was used)

    Going back to Xaquelina I expected to have the "Need help" talk option, indicating that the quest is unfinished. However, she offers the "Got your stuff" talk option now.

    Taking this option I would expect her to take the flowers and spill the XP, however, she complains "you need to harvest 150 valerian" instead - although I had the over 300 valerians in my inv at that time.

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    Idea: EL (e.g. Radu's Shop ?) sells livestock animals which you can settle on your guildmap. On the guildmap there is also a cratch which you have to visit at least every four game days to put food for the livestock into it. The livestock food must be bought at the general store (a goldsink for Radu). If you feed your lifestock well, their number increases up to a given limit. However, if you kill one, it does not respawn. So beware of killing all your lifestock.

     

    A cool guild will be able to breed their stock up to the maximum and could have a hunting party every month, where half of it is killed. Within one month of carefully feeding the population recovers.

     

    The idea has something Tamagotchi-like and I guess many guilds will invest in lifestock to show their wealth. Besides it makes the guildmaps more interesting - you could now visit them regularly in order to count the lifestock or feed... and be careful whom to trust onto your map.

  6. Posted · Report reply

    Day of Civil War

     

    The map with the most players on (bots excluded) becomes PK (IP excluded ofc). Take care to avoid groups (that is maps) of many people. Stay with your friends to protect you. And flee if it becomes too crowded!

     

    Role Playing:

    People loose their temper due to the unjustice in the lands of Irillion and Seridia. Suddenly a civil war breaks loose, with riots wherever too many people meet.

     

    Rationale:

    Since only the map with most players on becomes PK, most maps are not affected. However, one has to be aware not to choose the same map as others. Lazy afk harvers like me will have an adrenalin boost during that day.

    For PKers there is another strategy to invade maps with so many people that it becomes the PK map at once.

     

    The interesting thing is the dynamic aspect: behavior of a group of people (in-)directly influences the fate of others. And yes, some noobs will hate it because they might be attacked on maps where they do not expect it. But when you log on during an inva, it is the same thing...

     

    Anyone who likes the idea?

  8. Posted · Report reply

    What do you think of an invasion, where each player can only kill a limited number of critters? Thus you need a certain minimum number of players to participate in order to kill them all. This solves the problem that

    weak invasion creaures get quickly slain by strong players, which gives weaker players less motivation to join in fighting an invasion.

     

    For the roleplaing aspect, the creatures could be some kind of undead (zombies, vampires ?) which can only be killed once by a particular person. Once a player kills one, the remaining become immune against that player. There should be definitely different kinds of these for various A/D levels. To fight back such an invasion it is thus adviseable to consider which creatures you kill. And the weak ones remain for the noobs :-)

     

    ah, yes, in order to make this work, the monsters may only attack players with A/D where they have a chance to win over the player, otherwise the auto-attack kills the idea.

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    I voted yes, because the creation of marketplaces populated with vendors (bots) will nicely contribute to the roleplaying aspect.

     

    Regarding the market aspects, clustering the bots will speed up the market process. For bot owners, this can be a disavantages (losing a local market monopole) but can have also advantages, since the number of people willing to pass buy is higher.

  10. Posted · Report reply

    To me it sounds like all this would do is get everyone to level faster, and not affect the over supply issue much.

     

    I think it will make leveling even more slow, people will need to mix more stuff at higher levels to gain the same exp.

     

    Actually, what I was trying to indicate is that the system should be finetuned so that levelling will neither be faster nor slower. Probably less items will be needed until next level but same time/gc effort. And, yes, I know that adjusting this is not easy :-)

  11. Posted · Report reply

    The following ideas came to my mind basically on the example of manufacturing, but most likely would apply to all the mixing skills.

     

    Problem statement:

    Levelling requires an overproduction of items nobody needs in that quantity. This affects the market and creates great boredom for the mixer. In case of manufacturing, people even get stuck at producing leather helmets 4ever, since the higher items are less apt for levelling. Apart from being monotonous, for me personally, it is more fun to produce an item than is actually needed and used by someone than producing for Trik.

    Proposed improvements:

    I.) Adjust the gained XP to the level (similar as it is implemented in fighting)

    Producing an item below your manu level will give less XP, producing an item above your manu level will give more XP.

    If the XP gain has a steep curve, the best XP is made with items slightly above your level, causing many failures. Thus, a player can decide to produce for the market (many items, low XP) or to level (few items, more time, but better XP/time gain)

    II.) Make the schools more attractive for leveling.

    Increase the XP in schools (probably reduce the XP for real manufacturing a little bit). Schools produce no items, thus further mitigate oversupply in the market.

    III.) Make it more time-consuming to produce an item.

    This reduces the overall number of created items. This could go hand in hand with more role playing. If, for example, swords could only be manufactured at smitheries, the time to transport the ings to the smithery would make the time effort per sword greater. As a compensation, the XP sword should be accordingly higher. Overall effect: same time effort for leveling, but a fewer number of items flood the market.

     

    Expected results:

    • Less items on the market.
    • More alternation and change in the levelling process.
    • But time and effort for levelling stays the same.

    Related discussions:

    After checking for related posts, I found out that the problem has been discussed before, but the proposed solutions are novel. For interested readers I refer to threads http://www.eternal-lands.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=28455 and http://www.eternal-lands.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=19119

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    Adding a new quest would be cool, especially if it consists interesting tasks and riddles.

    However, the expected reward of pickaxes does not sound interesting, since pickaxes are no item that is used in large bulks such as leather or wine. What if the completion of the quest would boost the experience for some time? Like allowing to get Xp for the first 150 harvests (not 120) for the next 20 days or so...

  13. Posted · Report reply

    Proposal for new special days to spice up the game:

     

     

    Cold Day. All maps (except Isla Prima and insides maps) suffer from cold damage today.

    Role playing:

    A cold front reaches both continents. Get out your fur stuff, if you don't want to freeze to death.

     

    Rationale for this day: there is a lot of fur stuff in manufacturing which has no practical use, since most cold maps can be visited with leather armor w/o damage. On this special day, the cold damage should be so severe, that real fur stuff is needed (not only leather armor).

     

     

     

    NPCs on Strike. NPCs do not work today. If you're antisocial, you will barely notice a difference ;-)

    Role Playing:

    Today the NPC's are on strike for better working conditions.

     

    Rationale for this day: This will have interesting (temporally) effects on the economy. And it is probably less nasty than "Labour Day", I would say.

  14. Posted · Report reply

    That is to be expected - otherwise you could bypass cooldown simply by reconnecting.

     

    no, what i meant is that the cooldown time resets to its start time.

     

    like

     

    eat fruit

     

    cooldown time =50

    ...

    cooldown time =45

    ...

    ...

    ...

    cooldown time =30

     

    disconnect/reconnect

     

    cooldown time is again 50 (on the main server, it would be 30)

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    As long as this guild city thing is what Radu has planned for player cities, then fine. If you mean these cities would be privately owned by guilds, hell no. Resources and storages do not belong on guild maps.. we want to make use of the regular EL maps!

     

    Clarification on what is definitely an inchoate idea:

    Current guild maps are privately owned, only guildies know the secret entrance, but anyway the guildmap is of no other use than PvP. The bad thing is that a lot of creative power goes into creation of a map, which is hidden and sterilized.

    Guild cities will be open access and have some resources, so there is no real advantage for guildies. Resources will of course never be so rich that it dwarfes all other places (apologize to all dwarfes for this figure of speach).

    However, creators will feel responsible and proud about "their" city. This kind of "ownership" should not be a problem.

  17. Posted · Report reply

    something similar was suggested before

    player built cities

     

    Thanks for the link, I did look for earlier ideas, but did not find them due to different search words I used. After analyzing the Waquan idea, I would say, in contrast to the Waquan idea, the concept of the guild cities propose a more civilian concept, where the cities can be of use by all kind of players and also for non-guildies.

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    Observations:

    Guilds are paying real money to be able to contribute a guild map to the game.

     

    Guild maps are often really pretty, nice artwork

     

    Guild maps are non-public and do not offer useful things except for PK areas because otherwise these useful things would be an unfair advantage exclusive to the map users

     

     

    Suggestion:

    Allow guild cities:

    A guild city is a public city located somewhere in nowhereland, probably not too easy too reach. The surrondings could be covered with PK spots (for example the woods, while the save path is much longer...

    Guild cities can have NPCs (possibly the city leaders can bet for acquiring an NPC) and resources (harvests, trade bots) that make them attractive (mechanism for limiting these resources required)

    I propose to have only a local storage, that is a storage not connected to the global storage - thus, the effect on the global economy is limited and there is a job for people transporting stuff in/out of the city

     

     

    Guild cities can spice up the game for the players:

    - a chance for crafters/potters/manfacturers etc. to move to a city where is a demand for their needs. For example, in a city w/o an NPC selling potions, a potter can even make money by producing and selling FPs

    - a chance for players who like to transport stuff in order to make gc

    - a new playfield for PKs, who can lurk upon these traveling salesman, when they try to take a shortcut through the PK woods, etc..

    - a possibility for guilds to show their greatness and dominance by having the best city (as a gimmick, it would be interested to generate monthly stats about the sales volume of a city)

    - since guild cities will not come for free, a possibility to provide the EL team some $

     

     

     

    Summary:

    Guild cities would add a new interesting feature for different player types

    The local storage principle takes care that guild cities do affect the global economy only indirectly by people transporting stuff in/out

  19. Posted · Report reply

    Die meisten xml sind noch alte Übersetzungen, wird alles neu überarbeitet.

    Trotzdem danke.

     

    Ich hab die Übersetzung der Begriffe in languages/de/strings/stats.xml mal überarbeitet, anbei meine Vorschläge:

     

    <?xml version="1.0" encoding="iso-8859-1"?>
<root>
  <extra>
  <base>Hauptattribute</base>
  <cross>Kreuzattribute</cross>
  <nexus>Nexus</nexus>
  <skills>Fähigkeiten</skills>
  <pickpoints>Sammelpunkte</pickpoints>
  </extra>
  <base>
  <phy>
	 <name>Konstitution</name>
	 <shortname>phy</shortname>
  </phy>
  <coo>
	 <name>Koordination</name>
	 <shortname>coo</shortname>
  </coo>
  <rea>
	 <name>Logik</name>
	 <shortname>rea</shortname>
  </rea>
  <will>
	 <name>Wille</name>
	 <shortname>wil</shortname>
  </will>
  <inst>
	 <name>Instinkt</name>
	 <shortname>ins</shortname>
  </inst>
  <vit>
	 <name>Vitalität</name>
	 <shortname>vit</shortname>
  </vit>
  </base>
  <cross>
  <might>
	 <name>Stärke</name>
	 <shortname>mig</shortname>
  </might>
  <matter>
	 <name>Substanz</name>
	 <shortname>mat</shortname>
  </matter>
  <tough>
	 <name>Toughness</name>
	 <shortname>tou</shortname>
  </tough>
  <charm>
	 <name>Charme</name>
	 <shortname>cha</shortname>
  </charm>
  <react>
	 <name>Reaktion</name>
	 <shortname>reac</shortname>
  </react>
  <perc>
	 <name>Wahrnehmung</name>
	 <shortname>per</shortname>
  </perc>
  <rat>
	 <name>Vernunft</name>
	 <shortname>rat</shortname>
  </rat>
  <dext>
	 <name>Gewandtheit</name>
	 <shortname>dex</shortname>
  </dext>
  <eth>
	 <name>Spiritualität</name>
	 <shortname>eth</shortname>
  </eth>
  </cross>
  <misc>
  <material>
	 <name>Lebenspunkte</name>
	 <shortname>matp</shortname>
  </material>
  <ethereal>
	 <name>Mana</name>
	 <shortname>ethp</shortname>
  </ethereal>
  <carry>
	 <name>Tragekapazität</name>
	 <shortname>Load</shortname>
  </carry>
  <food>
	 <name>Sättigung</name>
	 <shortname>food</shortname>
  </food>
  </misc>
  <nexus>
  <human>
	 <name>Waffenfertigkeit</name>
	 <shortname>waf</shortname>
  </human>
  <animal>
	 <name>Tierkunde</name>
	 <shortname>tie</shortname>
  </animal>
  <vegetal>
	 <name>Pflanzenkunde</name>
	 <shortname>veg</shortname>
  </vegetal>
  <inorganic>
	 <name>Geologie</name>
	 <shortname>geo</shortname>
  </inorganic>
  <artificial>
	 <name>Kunstfertigkeit</name>
	 <shortname>art</shortname>
  </artificial>
  <magic>
	 <name>Magiekenntnis</name>
	 <shortname>magn</shortname>
  </magic>
  </nexus>
  <skills>
  <attack>
	 <name>Angriff</name>
	 <shortname>ang</shortname>
  </attack>
  <defense>
	 <name>Verteidigung</name>
	 <shortname>ver</shortname>
  </defense>
  <harvest>
	 <name>Ernte</name>
	 <shortname>ern</shortname>
  </harvest>
  <alch>
	 <name>Alchemie</name>
	 <shortname>alc</shortname>
  </alch>
  <magic>
	 <name>Magie</name>
	 <shortname>mag</shortname>
  </magic>
  <potion>
	 <name>Tränke</name>
	 <shortname>trä</shortname>
  </potion>
  <summon>
	 <name>Beschwörung</name>
	 <shortname>bes</shortname>
  </summon>
  <manu>
	 <name>Fertigung</name>
	 <shortname>fer</shortname>
  </manu>
  <crafting>
	 <name>Kunsthandwerk</name>
	 <shortname>kun</shortname>
  </crafting>
  <engineering>
	 <name>Technik</name>
	 <shortname>tec</shortname>
  </engineering>
  <overall>
	 <name>Gesamt</name>
	 <shortname>ges</shortname>
  </overall>
  </skills>
</root>

  21. Posted · Edited by Frodewin · Report reply

    The problem: Currently, playing EL is a mostly static thing. Apart from PKing, leveling a particular skill often becomes a very predictable and monotonous thing.

     

    Proposal: Increase dynamics by making harvest and spawn rates variable based on their exploitation. A frequently harvested spot, for example, will then yield only a few items per minute, while a more remote spot will provide a faster harvesting rate as long as it is not too exploited.

    The rates could be updated daily as a function of the spot's capacity and its exploitation since the last update.

     

    Similarly, spawn rates will decrease when the spawned creatures get frequently killed. As such, hunted animals could get sort of almost extinct, but will recover when less hunted.

     

    Isla Prima could be an exception by providing moderate low, but stable rates.

     

    Expected result: People do not go to same harvesting places over and over again like robots but rather invest time to wander around and find good spots. And it's dynamic, so that a good spot today might be not as good tomorrow. So keep on searching. Especially exploring the outposts on C2 will become more interesting then.

  22. Posted · Edited by Frodewin · Report reply

    First: I would like to thank the team for their great effort in providing such a game.

     

    I use 1.5.0 beta on Windows XP (german edition).

     

    Client is installed in C:\Programme\EL

    el.ini is in "Eigene Dateien\Eternal Lands\main\el.ini"

    #data_dir was incorrect after installation, but I fixed it.

     

    At every startup I get this entry in error_log, but without a crash:

     

    [12:19:17] Using the server profile: main
[12:19:29] Could not load a channel list for language code de. Using the english set instead.
[12:19:29] * server www.eternal-lands.com filename http://www.eternal-lands.com/updates150/files.lst
[12:19:29] Downloading http://www.eternal-lands.com/updates150/files.lst from www.eternal-lands.com
[12:19:29] Finished downloading http://www.eternal-lands.com/updates150/files.lst
[12:19:29] Fehler beim Anlegen des buffers: Invalid Name
[12:19:29] * server www.eternal-lands.com filename http://www.eternal-lands.com/updates/custom_files.lst
[12:19:29] Downloading http://www.eternal-lands.com/updates/custom_files.lst from www.eternal-lands.com
[12:19:29] Finished downloading http://www.eternal-lands.com/updates/custom_files.lst

     

    Sound and music are installed and usually work fine.

     

     

    1st problem:

    Sometimes the client crashes. The error_log then just contains an additional 

    [12:08:37] Client closed

     

    2nd problem:

    When I enter #current_song it causes the client immediately to crash without any entry in error_log.txt

    It does not matter if music is enabled or not.

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