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This is a proof that EL is much more than just a simple MMORPG. I am willing to contribute by donating few valuable items as well (if it is still possible).

Sava's location has been changed last night to 100,52 - Nordcarn.

I got impression that we have freedom of speech, but not freedom of decision. That is basically what is the case in RL as well!

I absolutely agree with Mar©, we, Yugo members, use guild channel for all our inter-guild discussions, and we all suffer from the same problem.

I have spoken to Grozni. He said he is not yet planning to come back to EL. Allthough, he said he definitely WILL come back one day.

Krrick, fair enough. Still, I think people who are so easily annoyed should pay a visit to psychotherapist, because if they are easily annoyed when one bot tells something well-mannered, no matter how many times, and on top of that, that bot can be completely ignored, then those persons risk heart attack when something REALLY SERIOUS happens in their lives... Or, they risk, at the very least, that someone will punch them in the face when they try to forbid their right to say anything they like in the public (free speech is the one of the basic rights in every democratic country, and protected by law).

Dear EL players, especially those who are against local talk by bots, just think little bit what you are against! That is seriously insane, seeeeeriously! HAVE YOU EVER BEEN ON A PUBLIC PLACE? Haven't you EVER heard guys selling newspapers on the streets, shouting news, trying to get attention of passengers, or similar case on any market place? You cannot possibly want to forbid their right to SAY SOMETHING!!! Similarly, on EL, bot should be allowed to say ANYTHING that is NOT AGAINST THE EL-LAW! End of discussion. Because EL is a PERFECT world, you have the all-mighty #ignore command !!

I am willing to participate as well. In-game name: Dejan Real name: Dejan Lekic Genre: male I am also willing to see the eventual publication which probably would be the result of this research. Will you provide details about it, Researcher?

How can your alt buy 10PPs for you??

50? Are you serious? You would have 50 EL clients open in parallel?? O.o I would not call that "playing a game" i would call that a "dumb masochism" !!

Ermabwed, o.O pardon me, but do you seriously believe I do not mix anything??

I worked hard (for years) to get my levels (allthough I did not level that much in last 2 years I admit because I am not an active player any more), and I am speaking from my experience when I say that multiplaying is simply harmless. You cannot be as effective with multiplaying as without it - your main character MUST suffer from multiplaying! Players who multiplay still cannot surpass hard-working players. If they want to do so, they would simply BUY A CHARACTER, like they usually do, and we all know it (check the top 50 list and You will see maaaaaany bought players there). "I would afk-harvest with 10 alts to do that, rather than paying someone to harvest for me" -- asgnny. Asgnny, you might do this, I would not, having 10 windows and switching between one another is maybe for some freaky addicts. I would rather buy stuff I need. Without doubt. You are forgetting one major point here - EL IS A GAME, and games should be FUN. Switching between 10 windows IS NOT FUN, and no sane person who playes EL to ENJOY IT would do so! Allow multiplaying and, If you want to be fair towards hard-working players, then better forbid character trades!

Absolutely YES. I see a lot of babbling about EL should be hard etc. People, please come to your senses! Every high-level player simply cannot afford to cheat if (s)he wants to further develop own (main) character - all time that person has simply must go in the development of the main char. I see no harm in allowing multiplaying, and certainly I think EL will continue to be a hard game.

I am not top a/d player, but I will definitely go to KF every day, when I am online playing EL. I had so much fun this morning, no matter I died hundreds of times (which I expected because many players from various guilds team against single players).

ШДФА ју нубс!

I carefully read all rules about bots, and this one in particular caught my eye: "The only bots that are allowed to buy and sell now are paid bots." Does this mean that, if my bot does not buy and sell, I can actually have a bot which is free of charge? I need to know this because I would like to have a special bot for my guild which would primarily be used for various information (leaving messages, guild-jobs, events, contests, etc). This bot would never buy or sell products, but it would take stuff from guildmates, and give stuff to them (free of charge). Again, the question is - is this type of bot free or not. Sure I understand perfectly that the bot must be approved by EL crew, according to other rules. Kind regards.

Our bot sava has the same for years... The problem is that people do not see the URI it is giving them...

6PPs for something that can make you die instantly, anywhere, and can be exploited by vicious players? Nah. It is too risky. I would take this negative perk only if it gives 10PPs _AND_ if there is adequate "'One' perk removal" stone.

Roja, what has been done so far is really impressive and I am sure everyone shares my opinion. However I would like to raise awareness of something many people do not see - In my opinion Eternal Lands has one big advantage over other games - EL maps have awesome level of details. Many games with excellent graphics have focused on effects and eye-candy stuff, while Eternal Lands maps are full of small, minor details. Someone do not care about this, I however think, this is what makes EL so unique, and I would dare to say Eternal Lands maps are much more realistic than 20+ MMORPG games I have see/tried/played so far. I love details, and I really enjoy traveling Irilion where each bush, ruin has something that awaits to be seen / explored. This said, I would suggest people who work on these things to try to improve it even more (whenever/wherever possible). There are so many things that can be added which belong to this group of "visual" items - i would like to see some windmills, flying balloons (yes, flying objects can also be made just for visual impression), on rivers we could have mills, we could have some creatures that live in the ground and occasionally appear above it (again, just for visual impression), and when someone passes by they would quickly jump into the ground and disappear. I would like to have more "holly creatures" like Unicorn as well. I would request COWs here as a holy creature (some people would laugh here, but I am actually serious). No, i am not Indian, but i just love cows and would definitely have them in EL as holy creatures. It would also be interesting to have glowing fairies for an example. I am sure other players would come to hundreds of other ideas that could contribute to this advanced "detailing" of Seridia and Irilion (and later some other continent). Yes, after all, maybe it is time for the 3rd continent as well. Kind regards

Umbrena, sta ces ti ovde, ti "ne razumes ovaj jezik" (njene reci, ne moje) !? Aj ish tamo i pricaj sa nekim koga bolje razumes!

This small bug is in the CVS for days. Apparently, the fogColor array is not declared in the cloudy_sky() function, in sky.c , line 806. I have added GLfloat fogColor[] = {0.0, 0.0, 0.0, 0.0}; to the list of initial declarations and built successfully the client. Cheers.

@Roja - I did not know about that thread. Maybe it should be pinned, or something, so people can easily spot it?

Aislinn thanks, i missed that part of that thread. I got the point now. Thank you. Still, I would say that rules should be carefully re-written to avoid confusion. For an instance rule I asked about is not "compatible" with those 3 types of bots mentioned after. Furthermore, those are NOT in the rule-list at all! It is just an additional note. I would appreciate very much if there is a page about bots somewhere on the site, not on forums, with crystal clear details about bots. It would be IMHO more professional, and it could also be used as some kind of end-user agreement. Kind regards, and thanks all of you for your replies.

Excellent idea, LabRat! I'll do it for our bot Sava.

Yeah LabRat, all that would be clear enough if I can find part about what you call a "guild bot" in this thread made by Roja: http://www.eternal-lands.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=13063 ... She has never mentioned that guild-bots should be payed if they are not commerce bots.