Lorck
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(1)I would like the original proposal, and i would train alt(s) to fight on the arenas.
(2)It happened before of people "hijacking" a thread (nmt one for instance), and it resulted in Entropy getting pissed, and don't changing anything. I like the original idea as it was, if it needs further adjustments (like item restrictions etc) i hope they come after this ideas get implemented and people see how it goes. Tyvm.
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What i call "oldschool" pking was that environment, where you could die in few seconds of fight and fights were short, so you had to think fast & click fast. COL when got introduced half killed the "die fast" aspect of it. Much later when SRs were made stackable, it made pk fights last much longer.So that server is not "oldschool" pking. How can you die with stackable srs, dis rings with no cooldown and COL? Only if you aren't really paying attention.Are you high or something? This IS exactly old school PKing.
You got the code, you can test how the pk was before COL (what i call OS pk) and compare it to the PK on the pk server. I bet you will notice a real major difference.
Funny that i was one of the guys who always supported cooldown, my guild even got declaration of war because i was defending it on the forums.Anyway, the cooldown on the PK server is my revenge. I still remember how much shit you guys gave me when I added the cooldown.
Yes it was introduced shortly before cooldown, but (1) few people had it;(2)the guys who complained were right, imo, COL in a non-cooldown environment would have killed the pk, it was one of the reasons i defended the cooldown so "bravely" back then.I am pretty sure the CoL was before the cooldown. If you feel like it, go search in the forums for threads related to it, how most people were like: omfg, the end of the game, even worst than with the minievents. -
K, when cooldown get added, i join the server.And I'd like to say, that in my totally honestly personal humble opinion, I think that no cooldown/multiplay might change when the server's population increases.EDIT: I really like some of the ideas of the server, like lower caps and pk in most places, but as i said, the no cooldown is really a road blocker for me.
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You can dis, there is no cooldown on dis!OR if your opponent is stronger and does high dmg, you fail to restore every 2 seconds and you cast MI, making a 4 second gap between restores
To get big harms your opponent needs to have mage build, which is probably more of a burden in a server where most maps are pk...you get harmed
Dis ring, people catch your dis? You dis again!There is no cooldown!you get summoned on, you get gangraped
That doesn't equals certain death, only if you are much stronger than the opponent, even so its not absolutely certain death.you get cooldowned by white tigers or ice bolts, etc etc.
And i thought i liked pking because it had some skills, instead of just pwning someone unaware/laggy.I always thought that the pkers know many ways to kill their opponent instead of clicking alt+1 and ctrl+1 all the time when fighting.People wanted to know why pk server is not popular? Its simple, just the acronym "pk" makes peaceful folks go away, and the stackable srs+no cooldown+col combo which makes you invulnerable to most deadly things, and it also makes the server way too boring for the other folks. Sorry, but its the truth.
EDIT: Nathan pr0 double post.
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The pk server has no cooldown. Its really a road blocker for most people i have talked with. Its the main problem of that server.
So that server is not "oldschool" pking. How can you die with stackable srs, dis rings with no cooldown and COL? Only if you aren't really paying attention.
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[JuvenaL @ 6]: well, put cooldown+no pp buying, i play on the server
[JuvenaL @ 6]: kk
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Enough said.
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AlleluiaIf PKers really want to level the playing field then here is a hint...STOP BUYING CHARACTERS!
Amen!
Piper
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Temp has bad taste for friends...Well, thats not what Tempest told me.
The guild you was when i left playing: HIM. That guild attacked me while pvp (even when there was PACT to not attack while pvp, honorable <3) and now accuse me of training behind bots? Wtf?And since I'm not playing I'm not sure what guild you are associating me with, but by your description of them, they will probably side with robotbob on the summoning level thingy.Btw, yeah, i agree with robotbob, there is no problem with the mixing skills, and the wipe would only make people quit massively...
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I never trained with summons in guild maps, i barely trained on guild maps, to be fair, or do you forgot your guild of wimps summoning giants to try to kill me while pvp? And when you was good at pk? Never? You try to be "good" at pk by wiping all people's skills & items? Rofl... This change is not necessary, and ridiculous, imho.@st_arcane: Well, what you try to fix with it? Pk at high levels? People devoted years training their char, paying real money to buy stuff from shop, then you want to wipe it all because you fail at PvP? Note that it won't fix your PvP problem either, because you would still be pwned anyways.No Lorck actually i don't pvp/play anymore. And if crushing people with uber stats gained by years of clicking and pressing home (in your case gained from multi-training summons in guild-maps) is considered being good at PK, then I was awesome.
My careface btw --->
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@st_arcane: Well, what you try to fix with it? Pk at high levels? People devoted years training their char, paying real money to buy stuff from shop, then you want to wipe it all because you fail at PvP? Note that it won't fix your PvP problem either, because you would still be pwned anyways.
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Maybe you can try to get the tournament moderated, so no risk of external disturb...However, if you want to organize Friendly Fights, I suggest you hold a tournament and solicit some guards (though in my experience, tournaments are rarely disturbed, people stumbling on the tournament while looking for a PK rather join in the fun or place side bets).My personal take on this issue is this: you can always ask for the ff, honorable players will respect it. Btw, people can pm me for ff when they want it, i will come if i am not training and the proposal is not ridiculous (like "i am stronger than you, but you can't dis, ofc i won't accept it if it was me").
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Another one \o/
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There are the "omfg zoo" whine too... btw, i pked after MD rings come in, and before the red cape, pk was too easy, just gang a person, the gang use some mmd rings on the person ganged, pwn.
EDIT:Oh, and the lamest is "you killed me because i was afk...".
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I was one of the most adamant defenders of brod removal... Lets get over it, it won't get removed...
EDIT: LOL @ Korrode's sig, so true.
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NMT perk removal+making NMT breakable+making the degraded version repairable by tailors = good imo.
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In my humble opinion, people who should fight for spawns are of similar levels, no big need for bullies to come in to just make the training guys run... Furthermore, the change i proposed has already similar code and is already tested in capped arenas.That is exactly my point. If you see people comming u have a chance to run and somehow, being the PK spots good place to train, would be worth the risk of giving a brick to raduNot to cap the map as Lorck suggested, but only forbid ppl from getting invis on such maps.
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The guys can still use other kinds of attacks, and only them can do it. We can do a test in test server, you trying to harvest in nc cave, and me trying to prevent you using poison/harm/mana drain/ranging, i am sure i can annoy the hell out of you and make the harvesting too costly...So if I were to go harvest at NC north cave with my 110s a/d, and the cave were capped to say 60... I could basically harvest all day without any issue except for maybe some gutsy 60s a/der trying to come and tickle me? (both loc and cap randomly picked btw)I understand and like the idea behind your suggestion but I think it will be pretty hard to implement, and basically would just end in giving an advantage to the people you're not really aiming at here.
I was not talking about PvP training, i think you don't got the idea at all.There are safe places to pvp, you just need to be creative and explore. The main maps you want to train on are the main maps people look to kill people. There are a lot of pk maps that are little used to not at all and you can roam them for days without seeing anyone. Mainly c2. Check em out.
That is exactly the spirit of the suggestion.I think some kind of change made so that those 'nice' low-mid level training spots are battled over by people around the levels to train them would be cool. -
The low level one has not much chance if the other guy come invisible, and no chance at all if a mage come in and harm invisible.Or maybe the low level PK'rs shouldn't kill Scotty and beam or use a ring if being approached by a high level PK'r -
Some pk maps with low level monsters get unused nowadays, nc goblin cave or evtr monster cave (one of the pr0est pk maps of the game)for instance, since a 130's a/d or above can come in and kill the trainee easily.
I know that there are capped pk arenas, etc, but maybe to have something to fight for, it can be spawn or an ore near storage, would improve the pk at lower levels.
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Don't forget the *hugs*.I agree with starlite, in KF we should all ally, sing and hold hands. ^^
What is the big deal, PK seems to be a hardcore pk guild who only doesn't attack their friends, so neutral or red, same result. Its funny when some folks yell "i red tagged y00" when they attack by default anyways.HELP were innocent by-standers, now were red-tagged too. -
Yaser, i was there, Bob_binks was in LION guild at the moment of the attack, i was there and saw it. And yes, he said sorry etc, while he was being ganged by the LION guys, probably the folks from LION did not saw it at that moment, you can read the chat log i posted before. I don't know why the LION guys don't asked wtf instead of just attacking Amar...
And the attack on Maitreya, i think it was just common sense to not attack, if you are allied with someone, you don't kill their GF's, at least not in front of them. Btw, i dunno if Amar thinks Maitreya or the HELP guild is some high priority target for the PK guild, if this is the case, please don't take this last statement into consideration.
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It should be obvious, if a couple is sitting together and you are friend of the guy, you don't just come in and attack the girl.anyway they should have asked him not to attack her, she's not in Lion so should be ok to attack herBTW, i don't think its a good reason to brod someone just because "he helped the guild GODZ", maybe its just better than no reason at all.
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Ye, and brod breaks some virtual stuff too. Everything in this game is just pixels, you know.lol virtual gf epic to me sounds like brod tag for att virtual gf in a pk map? no wai..(yes ofc i know there is more to it) -
I was in kf and see some stuff, this is my log:
Maitreya: Hello sir juvenal.
JuvenaL: hey
[@PK central @ 6]: AMAR killed bob_binks.
bob_binks has become better at dying.
AMAR: oops
AMAR: sorry lion
JuvenaL: misclick?
AMAR got healed a little because of his/her armor!
Maitreya: go vera!
You gained 10 extra harvesting exp.
You stopped harvesting.
AMAR got mana depleted!
[stress @ 6]: Amar
You started to harvest Tiger Lilly.
VeraAmvoria: i think he misclicked
VeraAmvoria: ^^
You hurt yourself, and lost 2 HPs.
You stopped harvesting.
JuvenaL: ye, he misclicked
JuvenaL: and said he was sorry
BaGouris: ops
[stress @ 6]: AMAR
Ozmondius: ah well
[Lucky_Paladin @ 6]: lol :>
Ozmondius: it's pk
[Cokweng @ 6]: is cool? D:
You started to harvest Tiger Lilly.
Ozmondius: i didn't know what he was apologizing for
[Lucky_Paladin @ 6]: he dont answar you :> go pk him stress:>
[stress @ 6]: y he killing ppls
Your harvesting experience limit for this hour expired, you won't get any more harvesting EXP until the next hour.
[@PK central @ 6]: Ozmondius killed BaGouris.
BaGouris went the same place that Goldy the Gold Fish went.
Druss: i know nothing i see lion fight and join in
Ozmondius: lol
You stopped harvesting.
You are now immune to magic, for the next 90 seconds. Enjoy
VeraAmvoria: lol
[WolfWitch @ 6]: lol baggy dis and tele are your best friends
Ozmondius: he killed bob, i guess it was a misclick
After that, you saw Maitreya sitting with DP, and you probably know its really rude to attack someone's girlfriend, even more when they are sitted togheter. If you really wanted to red tag LION, you could just do it, without all this drama...
What makes a player a "noob"?
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Posted · Edited by Lorck · Report reply
Ok, there is an instanced called "noob instance" for players over 60 a/d, then there is a comment from entropy saying people with 40 a/d are mid level. So there is a skill threshold where you stop being a noob? Also, its the noob word related to the time people started the game? Its it related to do "noob" things, that is, doing stupid things which more expirienced folks would not do? What REALLY makes someone be a noob?
BTW, i know i am a noob, and if i was looking for the definition of "noob" i should look at the mirror... but there are something else"?
EDIT:Oh. btw, this thread its not aimed at anyone in particular, just there was a discussion about "who should be considered noob" on ch 6, and i would like to hear what the community in general think about it.