DonPedro

OMG YES i rember McDull and Dragon …. McDull was actualy my 1st friend in EL, even B4 i learned Whitediablo and Raa to know, i learned her to know in att. God place, on fem. Orc, it hurted a bit when she turned against me with Dragon. McDull and Dragon standing hour after hour, day after day in KF traning, me watching TI making raids on em, they save up like, 50 PP, that where times. Then they suddenly spend the PP and attacked me (I till today dont understand why, i didnt mix into TI figths maybe, thats why), the best figth i ever had, was the one i had with Dragon and co after they came in pack and attacked me in Tirn, i diss’ed and meet the pack in KF (Dragon btw. where 1-2 att/def higher than Don, and higher P/C), they went down in 2nd attemt, i dissed in 1st. Grey came saved their bag's while i fougth, with diss. rings everytime i attacked him he dissed, Dragon and co. got back from Hell i had to flee, but did get some ubber items but not all i wanted And all the figths i had with Weasel and Ratz0r (that max perk’ed guy), that where times:). It where when you where a ubber noob and named Satan, Scarr

"THAT ruins fun NOT pking" <- that i dont get!!! The part i didnt get where "NOT pking"

"THAT ruins fun NOT pking" <- that i dont get!!!

Yeah, and you believe everything you hear? No one has 1K rostos in storage, that would be like 4K USD. But let's talk a little about being fair now. We have teo people: One that has a job and can play only 4 hours a day, and one that is self employed, or a student in vacation, and can play 12 hours a day. Obviously, all thing being equal, the one playing more will have an undisputed advantage over the one playing less. Are you suggesting now that I should limit the duration on how much each player cna play the game, to equalize things? Anyway, despite for people's complaints, there is a lot of activity in the game, and it seems that the PK is not really that needed afterall. If people don't care that much about the PKing, then I can focus my atention to other skills. "Yeah, and you believe everything you hear? No one has 1K rostos in storage, that would be like 4K USD." No i dont believe anything i hear, but with my experince, in other threat i told i had around 50 screenshots of xanter's (i call him here X) death, i started on make the screenshots after i tried this: X comes into KF i kill him fast, like 2 min after X comes into KF again, i send X to hell fast again, 2 min after..... it happend like 5-6 times every day 4 more than 1 week, then i started make the screenshots of X's deathmessages. Then after i quit a player told me he where showed 1K rostogol, from another $player, it fited perfectly into what i thougth, where in the h... does he get all those rostogol from!!!! "But let's talk a little about being fair now. We have teo people: One that has a job and can play only 4 hours a day, and one that is self employed, or a student in vacation, and can play 12 hours a day." I just ask woot if its other way around the guy that can play 12 hours aday can/will put alot $'s into his char the player that can play 4 hours aday cant/willnot put alot $'s into his char. U cant put fairness up that way. "Are you suggesting now that I should limit the duration on how much each player cna play the game, to equalize things?" U put words in my mouth i didnt say, but i would say IF its the alternative to massive buy in EL-shop, yes then do that, put a max playtime to like 4-6 hours aday, i suppose that wouldnt be popular thou But that is no good idea!!! B4 i quit we had a guy (as far as i rember it where old Doctor char) i had my thougths about accept him into ^v^, but the others wanted him, he 4sure bougth several t.serp in el-shop, not 4 own use but 4 sell to gain ingame gc, i know 4sure he sold 4 t.serp 4 like 450K each. I state again its NOT solo ELshop i'm against. But the "abuse" of ELshop is just 1 thing that with the other things like figth spoiling items, PK-bots, rostogol... makes figthing that much less fun. I too never said theres no activety in EL, its the figthing i talk about, i still have contact with several EL oldies, some still "play", all say PK is dead in EL, i only hear 2 of the around 20 i have contact with say they still figth(without buy massive in shop), i personaly simply DONT get how they do, i got that much spoiled in my figths i couldnt keep a positive balance in income/expences, just b4 i quit i had 5 figths against toomass, xanter, matess, all 5 figths cost me my mirror, i had > 40 of em, but if every figth 1 goes i would soon run out of mirrors, and end up have to buy some t.serp to sell ingame to get gc. I ask u how will any WITHOUT buy massive in EL-shop ever be able to buy his nex's with the h.bars??? The $players can get em instant, is that fair?? I personaly would hava had to reset Don instant, then bougth the nex's if i still had played, cos the $players will do it soon if they not already did it, u cant figth some1 the has all his gained PP in p/c and none in nex, i had 18 PP in nex i would't stand a chance with 18 PP wasted on nex's. I know Starcraft/Broodwar is a well knowen game, it had a cheat code that gave u 10.000 of each resource, if u played against a player that used the cheat code else u got 200 of each i think it where, u wouldnt stand a chance against him in the game if u DIDNT use it too, some (mostly kids/lowIQ) would think it where fun win a game with the use of cheat codes. If u recall when we ingame talked about cheatclients, i told u i used a cheatclient too 4 a short time, stopped use it cos i never died in PK, but equal players have most fun, soo i felt i HAD to use it, if i wanted a figth against em, i had no chance with #2 - #6 players gangabanging Don, i dammed HAD to use 1, to make a fair figth. But the at that time 99% of the top figthers used 1, it where use 1 or loose figth, u did get it stopped, hat off. Its not fair 1 use client with autorestore/-manarefill, or u maybe think it 100% fair if they just bougth the client in EL shop, its fait cos all can buy a cheatclient, or when u think its not fair anymore, i played long enough to rember when u sold stats 4$'s too. I point out i DO understand that $'s have to go to dev/expences, and i like the p2p way u implemented it, i just say about p2p races, u made a major mistake give em permanent, u lost u monthly income, i would have payed up to like 20$ a month 4 the p2p race, ofcause i accept it cheaper when u offer it, but u shouldnt have done it. Edited typo "it happend like 56 times"

omg "Why you didn't start be dunno pr0 harvester ;p " when i made killmeyes i where #6 harvester, and 1 of em higher than me where a BOT, bots shouldnt show up on ranking listes, they have 24 hours a day, players DO have to sleep. Not counting OA that where 140, i only had 1 skill with zero crafting, summoning where 20-22, manu mid. 30, harvesting/magi/alch >85 I DID do other things but figth, had 18 PP in nex

"Dunno, if you don't like shop then pay 10k dollars to radu, and shop will dissapear, for me is better Eternal Lands with people which buys stuff for real money, than no Eternal Lands. You can do 2 things, agree with this or leave. I agreed you left... " I didnt say/mean el-shop has the 100% disapear, just said its getting "abused", i myself did buy from shop, but to affor all the new items u have to buy in el-shop. NO1 can go work up the gc 4 1.000 rostogol stones, what i was told 1 player had in storage, what purpose on kill 1 with 1.000 rostogol stones? I DO have understanding 4 dev's wich 4 $'s. The $'s just cant control the game, soo a noob can buy #X char, then buy alot in shop turn it to items ingame, then all he do is train behind PKbot, and only show up puplic rare to PK.

"then we will have next problem, for what we need new stuff?" If they shall stay, what they proberly will, then prices has to be that low that all can have em. But, from i hear/understand from reading forum, some of the new items r soo evil that they spoil the figthing. Like i said b4 in other threat its no goal to make a figth last few sec, u dont get to get the thrill if u get 2-3 sec figths.

omg read what i write "And did you have satisfaction? Maybe try bit them without cheats, and i'm sure you will feel it ;p" I said ONCE, and that after weeks of trying beat em, satisfaction, i dont get satisfaction of beeing superior i get satisfaction of good figths. A fair figth i didnt expect i had to explain, but a fair figth is a figth where both sides of the figth have equal opportunity. Earlyer b4 the cheat clients where revealed, it where no fair figth when 1 part have client that restores/refill mana automatical, and other part dont. Its no fair if 1side uses weeks to get 1 item, and other side go to storage take one of the 1.000 he has got in store of that item.

The game i currently play, i just heared of item duplicate, other cheats, i quit play it, 4now, i dont think i'll return to it. I played a game Starcraft/Broodwar, in single mode i couldnt beat the NPC when i had 2-3 NPC players against me, i once tried the "Show me the money" cheat just to c if i could win then. i did win easily. I loved the fair figths in EL, all u lost where u honor and if bad luck where after u serp titchain and mirror. If bad luck where after u, u lost valuable items, but notthing u had to work weeks to get. And there where always people in KF, watching PVP'ers, chatting and hopeing at 2 enemys came soo a figth where up, if they where lucky, a GOOD figth came.

True but they doesn't have it for free, but i quess you will say something like "yeah you can buy everything for true $$$"... What mean PK? Player Killing/Killer, in most of games people don't like pkers becouse they can kill everywhere and they kill every1, even people who doesn't want it. This is big +++ of PK in eternal lands, you fight if you want to. You don't have to go to PK map if you don't want to, but what if you want pvp? You have to risk? Then where's gone idea about pk only for people who want go to pk? It disappeared?. No, becouse you can go to guildmap, and you are safe there.I like guildmaps idea, really, this is like home, safe place, no only for sit there, but for train there too. Sorry for all bugs in text but in my country is really late Btw. I'll read your post in second topic, and i'll try to answer for it. Equal kids have most fun playing. The unlimited sell from EL-shop creates unfair figths, if the $players didnt do it yet, they will do sooner or later, reset and then buy their nex's, soo they dont wast PP on nex's. It has no importence if they "True but they doesn't have it for free" they gain that high advantage in figthing, that all to have fair chance, have to do same. PKing means u kill some1, i dont get any get pissed cos some1 kill em, if u never die, u would have to be a kid to like that kind of game. "You don't have to go to PK map if you don't want to, but what if you want pvp? You have to risk?" the hole idea about u have to train in puplic area is u get enemys when they kill u:) If u dont wanne risk some1 attack u while train, train on monsters, its BIG advantage to pvp train, a risk should be, and it also my oppioion that is much more fun when u risk attack while pvp train. I mean what i said in other threat to play against $players is like play against some1 use cheatcodes, u dont stand a chance against em, if u not do same.

I did post em earlier when Mufuso asked if rumors about my return where true, look that post. 1 more reason 4 less PKing, is lack of oppertunity, cos most train behind a PK bot. B4 the caves/PKbots people had to pvp train in puplic area, when every1 r in a cave training behind a PKbot less activity in puplic area's. The new items r expencive people dont wanna risk loose em.

If u got a nail in both hands and both feet, the pain wont go away by remove the nail in rigth foot. The Rostogol in not the solo problem, it only takes 1 more reason for PKing.

Wow its just a game, its not real. No one is forced to PK if you get your stuff destroyed/stolen its your own fault. And on a similar note: http://www.eternal-lands.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=29937 It is partly rigth i offered to return to EL, i demanded Don restored 100% incl. all items i had b4 Branch destroyed what i payed 4RL$, an Branch gone. Ent refused, offered Don restored excl. items incl 1 t.serp 4 40$, i alrdy payed once for that t.serp i wont pay 2 times for same item. I didnt talk to Ent personaly, i thougth it would be invain, Ladywolf tried to get me back, she talked to him. More have offered pay 4 my char and items, but i have refused, gamefun is gone, and to me it make no diffrence if others pay or i pay mayself. It also partly rigth i quit cos of Branch spoiled the item i payed RL$4, it where only the drop, that made me take final decision. Dont fell bad Tsu cos u used it against me, u only used ingame item, if u had not been the 1 then it would have happened from some1else, i too used it b4 i quit. I had long time been tired of gameplay in EL, figthing has been spoiled. All motivation 4 figthing went when Rostogol came, i didnt quit at that time, a small reason for staying still left, until i realized i fougth against players that never would run out of anything, they just bougth more 4RL$, then came buggy/wayoverdone cooldown times. Its no goal to make figths last 2-5 sec's, if u wanna make a fun figth game. EL have become a game where u cant be in top without putting alot $'s into u char, nothing wrong in that, but let players who want to put the $'s into game play it, but as i c notmany wanna be part of the figthing, i dont wonder, figthing is spoild. U only have expences from figthing, drops u can forget to get, if u figth in top. True gamefun spoilers: 1. Branch. 2. More items have come that ONLY if u buy 4RL$ u can affor use em, not fair that only $players can actualy use em. 3. Buggy/wayoverdone cooldown times spoil figths. 3. Rostogol toke 100% motivations for PK. 4. Enemy train behind PK bot. Any of above is enough, for removeing my playfun, Some candidates 4 gamefun spoiling: 1. PK contests is pure summon party. is not that big a problem, u can just stay away from contests. 2. TP durring harvest wayoverdone, any reason 4 it be there after macro detector came? 3. Item breakrate completly foolish, monsters drop items like completly crazy, find other way of fix too many items ingame, its annoying that u items breake, and with the breakerate's in EL u get annoyed often, everytime u get annoyed u 1 step closer quiting. I had 49 screenshots of xanters death, it where the only fun left(the screenshots), the figths against him had NO thrill, the figths against, Ratz0r/Weasel, EF and DY & co where fun, but at that time we where equal in items, if u wanna figth today u have to buy alot items from EL-shop. To gain advantage in game with $'s is like play with some1 that use cheatcodes. I have understanding 4 that dev's also wanna make a $, but when $'s control the game, its no fair game anymore, lately u can buy nex's, smerg those that spend 20 PP or more on nex's. Other ways of getting $ to dev's should be found than those that make game unfair. Would i return to EL, nahh not as EL r of today, if the gamefun spoiling subjects would be removed, proberly yes, and then only with a 100% restored Don incl. all items or the value of em in gc. My guess is a snowball would have bigger chance to survive 24 hour in hell, than Don return to EL. Soo good luck find any to figth muf, and u other $players:) i wont be the1 that step in 4 u entertaiment.

Im Pr0 my OA level says so ;D ! - 27 free pp and counting! ^^ You want a p2p race but dont have real $ - pm me in game i will make your dream come true :-) -- Due too many requests im not doing more this trade for a while!!!! ty!!! pm me thou i tell you someone you can trust like me U got no clue about what it means to build up u char from the buttom, make/earn all u items, u like a kid play a game with cheatcodes, they too miss the fun of the game.

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