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You are in Palon Vertas [329,297] - the "transparent" tree you can walk through.

White Stone little bug. If you use exit in WS manufacturing school (map WS insides, [211,197]), you appear behind the blacksmith shop WS Lakeside Village [567,141], not at the school entrance (WS Lakeside Village [567,121]).

Summ/Ant payment: 8VN84564G9394083V

Checkmate !

OK, one inconsistement is less. Anyway, your data proved the less dd of PK bolt. I suppose the error was at the same beginning when the archery skill was introduced, because that time XBow was not the strongest ranging weapon at all and who investigated new skill paid much less attention to it. It's possible due to the ranging items in the client itself have no exact description. And the encyclopedia is supported by third persons, iirc. Also I must mention the forum thread (the link is in my first post in this thread), where the difference was noticed. It was dated by Feb 2011. I think the best we can do - ask el-wiki and encyclopedia maintainers correct the info about PK bolts. Also can we ask Radu, whether it's a bug or the feature ?

According to your data I conclude: players have extra 5 ranging dd on PvP. It compencates the loose of 5 dd for PK bolt. And it explains other numbers. it's the most simple explanation. (I'm sure you and your partner have no Gelatine Bones perk, what could explained the difference.) I'm sure PhWs have no any ranging protection because only XBow+PKbolts didn't get the calculated range to me. I think you need just to shoot them too as well as Polar Bear to compare. Anyway, the protection (if exists) has affect on any combination of quiver and ranging weapon and it will be seen easy. Funny, it's not too important +5dd in PvP or -5dd in PvE. I suggest PvP bonus to keep the formula more simple. In any case it's seen -5dd tendency if PK bolts are used. And it's still agree to my conclusion. P.S.: I'm sure AP and any accuracy modificators make no effect on dd. So astro variation also has nothing to the question.

The first mention of the case I want to show was in the thread (from the first posts): http://www.eternal-lands.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=54714 But there the conversation was not finished and no conclusion had been made. I try shoot Phantom Warriors with Xbow and Short Bow with training bolts/arrows and PK bolts/arrows. What the damage I can deal to them when I get critical shot ? (Noncritical shot on them deals zero dd in any case of weapon/quiver. No exceptions to me.) (The info below is taken from http://www.el-wiki.net/Ranging ) I'm 38 ranger lvl so I have to get +7 dd bonus (+1 per 5 lvls) XBow - 14-19 dd Short Bow - 3-8 dd training arrow/bolt - 0 dd PK arrow/bolt - 30 dd I have the Wilhelm Hood perk - 15% bonus Calculations (rounded down): Short Bow with trainings: min (0+3+7)*1.15 = 11 ; max (0+8+7)*1.15 = 17 Short Bow with PK arrows: min (30+3+7)*1.15 = 46 ; max (30+8+7)*1.15 = 51 XBow with trainings: min (0+14+7)*1.15 = 24 ; max (0+19+7)*1.15 = 29 XBow with PK bolts: min (30+14+7)*1.15 = 58 ; max (30+19+7) = 64 The first three strings here are confirmed with the tests in RoT. The ranges of the damages are exactly I've calculated, but the XBow+PKbolts calculation is wrong. According it I have to oneshot them or left with 1-2hp (the full hp of PhW is 60), but it's not true: really I deal 52-58 dd only. What's wrong ? If we try to recalculate back the experimental results we'll get: min 52/1.15 = 46 ; max 58/1.15 = 51 (rounded up) Substract my level dd bonus (-7): min 39 ; max 44 Substract dd of XBow: 39-14 = 44-19 = 25 It means that the damage of the PK bolt is 25, not 30. The conclusion: or the real PK bolts has 25 damage, not 30; either the calculation of damage with XBow+PKbolts has the inner error. More play with crossbow showed these damage: Trainings: 24 - 25 - 26 - 28 - 29 PK bolts: 52 - 54 - 56 - 57 - 58 May be due to low statistical data I've not got 27, 53, 55. But it's possibility for another explanation also Also I found no difference in dd between regular XBow and the Marksman one. And we have no more choises to check PK bolts in action for now. If we reread the first post of the topic I'd linked above, we'll find the similar dd calculation error with XBow+PKbolts. Keep in mind that the damage of Crossbow was 10-15 dd that time. And there is +5 dd of level bonus (ran 28). The experimental result range is got lower by 5 dd too. P.S.: While tests new EL day had started and I'd got grapes from a PhW. Nice reward for the investigation

Discuss it to Radu. He will choose token action or will make completely new one. Radu, not me. I hope other players still want to add their suggestions here.

While looking at the black panther picture I imagine the invisibility effect like the potion without chance to be poisoned (or like the corresponding spell). Reusable.

Now the android keyboard is not called with "Back" button at all. How can I write in the console mode ? And the name/HP tags on the characters still don't showed in Isometric View (sometimes twinkling from another players though). May be this mode must be disabled in the final release ?

I am trying to make a special potion. I need 10000 Gypsum of which I have 40, 1200 Amber and I have 0, 50 Mixture of Power of which I already have 0, and finally, 50 Black Dragon Scale of which I already have 0. I've started with gypsum

I've tested the 7th release with my small external keyboard - the space bar problem gone. Thank you.

Yes, the space bar trouble was with external bluetooth keyboards only. The standard onscreen android keyboard is OK. With the onscreen keyboard I met another problem: it overlaps the text input field in console mode (the input itself is working, just it's not seen what I'm writing until sending the text to the chat). In normal mode - OK.

Actually, I've tested two bluetooth keyboards. The China noname. Both got the same trouble with space bar. They were bought here: 1. http://www.dx.com/p/portable-folding-wireless-bluetooth-v2-0-keyboard-black-91033 2. http://www.dx.com/p/mini-handheld-rechargeable-bluetooth-3-0-49-key-wireless-keyboard-black-156970 These keyboards have no problems in standard android applications like browser or email.

I'm late with my answer, sorry. Right, I can't make a correct request to bots for example as no any reaction on space bar pressing. No windows are opened. The same trouble is in the console mode also.