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  1. I prefer my solution to this "problem".

     

    Since Stivy has proven there's no actual monopoly, just noone else trying and that when they do they can change things, the players themselves can actually "break the monopoly" by trying instead.

     

    http://life-is-etern...-find-pear.html I wrote the solution to this not-actual-problem two months ago. When I did see other hunters back then, they got PM tips from me on how to improve when they asked, attempting to encourage them to continue trying. (Though I stopped doing that after someone tried shoving it down my throat they used my own advice "against me".)

     

     

    All I see here are people making attempts to punish others *for being good at something*, for actually having taken the non-leveling time to learn maps (which should be encouraged), put to use things in-game that don't get often used (speed hax), giving those with high inorganic levels and harvest levels an actual benefit.

     

    Normally things are changed because they're bugged, not because a select group of people took the time to actually be skilled in doing them.

     

     

    I fail to see this as anything other than an attempt to punish a few people who honed a skill just because others won't take the time to learn it. That's not a valid reason for change. There's no bug, just noone willing to take the time we did to learn (to "level" the skill), noone willing to go through the "heavy fail rate" just as I or stivy did to improve and fail less.

     

    Yes, that part is incredibly difficult. I know, I did it. But it's a rare item, there should be an amount of difficulty in it.

     

    And that's why I'm against it. I worked hard to hone this skill, and I've tired of people who refuse to put that same effort in trying to put that effort to waste. As absolutely nothing is done that can't be done by anyone else in the game just by putting some actual effort into it, there is no problem to solve here. Those who want to be part of the hunt can hone their hunt skills just like we did.

     

    The supposed monopoly only exists because noone else tries. Not because the supposed monopolists are using dirty Microsoft/Apple-like tactics. That's impossible. The only thing stopping any player from "getting in on the action" is their own willingness to put in the time and effort like the rest of us, including the fail time. And yes, that fail time can be costly in both time and gc. I know, I paid it, and earned my ability to hunt.

     

    I could have just given up after weeks of failed hunting attempts, losing both gc and time, which seems to be the current course of most people if they try at all, but instead I chose to press on, keep "training", and earn my status as a pear hunter.

     

    And btw, changing it to a treasure hunter style (yay, more exactly-the-same stuff in-game) won't change the supposed monopoly. Even treasure hunts have only a small base of people that hunt them. Those not willing to put in the effort will find reason to complain about that method as well.

     

     

     

    ADD: Another perspective, those that actually buy/use the pears. I have a few regular buyers, all of which have been happy with the way I've handled the pears cost-wise. Because I don't use my bot to artificially inflate costs, just an extension for selling, I can keep a constant price for pears up. In the past month alone I've pushed the price down by 7kgc, and plan to continue dropping it within reason.

     

    I'm not ****** (a certain person still trying to artificially inflate grape costs with his bot), but someone who's more interested in keeping items useful than my own greed.

     

    The hunts are fun, and that's the primary reason I do them. And as a part of the "community", I've worked to intentionally bring the price of them down, especially after the grape price shock-hike that occured recently (which had a direct effect on pear sales since the only pear use requires grapes).

     

    Extra gc from sales has also benefited the community. 2 Nobel day stones bought and used, and 2 more already bought for later use (yes, greedy on my part in that I need that day, but it benefits everyone). A Bad Day stone bought and used to remove Murphy a week back... 1 hour before I went to bed, when I was only mixing AEs so don't fail much anyway. I had no use for removing that.

     

    I may have earned my position as a hunter, but unlike someone who'd try and keep the price artificially hiked, I know that would hurt their value and worked on lowering it. And giving back to the community by buying Bad Day stones for their benefit... though I'm feeling much less inclined to do that part after this attack on my skills.

     

     

    But greed is not the driving factor for me. The fun of the hunt is, and yes I'll continue to vehemently oppose anyone who tries to ruin my hard-earned skill in hunting just because they won't put in the same effort, and what is my only occasional distraction from the "daily grind".


  2. Yeah, reasoning!

     

    I'm against, doesn't seem it would change anything. However, should it be done:

     

    1- latest 4:00, not 5:00. 2 hours is enough for fully checking all maps except 3 (WS, Ida, and AA Lothalith fortress) and those are a crapshoot if they're found even with 6 hours.

     

    2- Anything that causes less pears to found, considering there's already a max of 4 per day and less when they go into unreachable places (as I type this the pear is in Portland, and not reachable) - will cause the price to skyrocket back up more than the 70k it started out at. 70k was a pain threshold for the price, and I've even been trying to bring it down. *If* it were implemented and this was the result, it would have to be reverted back.

     

    Basically, no change can be made that will result in the price to going up without ruining the pear's value completely. And in the end, that's the primary consideration. (which is why I say 4 instead of 5:00, as 5 would definitely result in that happening.)


  3. This way can people not go afk and only return to the game at the time a new day starts.

     

    Okay, I know I don't do this, I have too much leveling to work on. Does mala? Stivy? Or who? You?

     

    Basically, the question is: is this an attempt to solve a problem that doesn't actually exist?

     

     

     

     

    And If it actually is happening, does it really matter? If that's all they want to do, that's all they want to do, that would be their gameplay choice. I used to know people who'd afk until Lenny came out to hunt him, we never did anything about that. Harvers who'd grab harv points, then afk until the next hour. Their choice, their manner of gameplay.

     

     

    I'm not as caring about this... I just don't see the reason to waste radu's time with it as this "problem" doesn't seem to be an actual problem. Pears sell to a limited extent, but they're nothing to solely live off of in this manner. I've found 133 of them and still keep finding myself broke... and that's with a hydro income as well. If someone actually is doing this "afk until new day" thing, good luck to them, it's a waste. (The only other person who could attempt to live off of this is mala, and even now I'm seeing him coming to storage in training gear, not afk.)

     

    If he's going to change something, you need to state the actual reasoning and proof that it's needed. This doesn't seem to have any reason to it.


  4. Mmm, what Ghrae said, mules don't need armor. Lenny or whatever is a risk you have to take (and I, as I regularly mule as well.)

     

     

    However... "mule getting frostbite" ... I don't mule through anything that gives cold damage. Are they getting this?

     

    And if so, perhaps just a tweak giving them more cold protection would be better. After all, can't mules tolerate colder weather?


  5. I never said she wasn't entitled, that's Dilly's unfounded random-derail-attempt-post implication and nothing more.

     

    I asked for the *reasoning* behind it, and the response to what this would actually do. Nobody seems to be able to provide that.

     

    Which, actually, I'm helping *them* by getting them to post this. Nothing gets changed without valid reasoning.


  6. No, I said to STATE that experience, and in particular why it is relevant to this suggestion, as not a single person has provided any valid rhyme or reason as to why it needs to be changed at all. (Other than the ones that have just been too lazy to try at all, which obviously is not the thing here as this won't change that.)

     

    Suggestions need to be based on actual experience, just as I don't make random suggestions to changing, oh, the Blue Dragon stats, as I have no experience with it to base it on.

     

    If someone were trying to ruin a part of a game you considered fun, you'd expect some kind of reasoning as well.

     

    I'm aware of her very early attempts, but not of anything current that would explain a sudden need to bring up this suggestion.

     

     

     

     

    Also to state why there's a need to drastically hike the price of the pear when it already has a limited audience that certainly won't buy it at the prices this would cause. Essentially making them useless.

     

    Also why the need of taking away one of the few things that actually relies on map knowledge in the game, hunting through all the various harvestables on a map, by using a treasure-find style instead that puts a complete end to that, it may as well be in a hyperbag like a treasure. The two things don't mix. If you want a treasure-finder style hunt, hunt the treasures.


  7. There have been more than enough off-topic posts, and even I have been unfortunately baited into responding to them. (Yes, I admit I am at fault at falling for the bait as well.)

     

    That ends here on all ends, for everyone.

     

     

    All further posts will be about the exact subject of a supposed pear bug, per the reason of this development forum. This is NOT a chat, it is a development forum where developers come to look for actual bugs in the code, not wade through random topics.

     

     

    The basic requirements of a *bug report* are at the end of the previous message. Use them.

     

    Any further baits to change the subject or actual changes to the subject will be removed. All subject changes posted prior to this are no longer part of this discussion. Stay on subject,


  8. And how long and far back was it I last posted in an official thread about pk change? Look long and hard, because it'll be quite likely *years* back. Opinions I post in any unofficial place or general chat are not relevant, there are different rules there (or none at all if referring to my personal blog).

     

    Here, it is taking off the subject of a BUG REPORT. This forum is for the discussion of bugs only.

     

     

    You stick to the subject here (*rule alert*). Subject changes are not permitted in this development forum.

     

     

     

     

     

    - What is the BUG?

    - State your personal experience with said bug (not what others do, but your personal experience)

    - Why it's a bug

    - What it is that needs to be fixed.

     

    If you have no personal experience, you cannot possibly claim a bug.


  9. Seriously desperate responses here...

     

    Someone said the pear hunt wasn't relaxing to them, and that's why they play. Noting that there are *many* other means of relaxing in the game and that a pear hunt existing doesn't take away from that is directly relevant if that's somehow an excuse that there's something wrong with the pear hunt.

     

     

     

    What is the BUG of this BUG REPORT? Other than names showing in the blue spam.

     

    If it's too easy, provide your personal proof. State how you've used the finders, how the pears have been too easy for you to find because of the way they are.

     

    That's how you file a bug report.


  10. I don't like the fact you're calling 99% of the EL playerbase lazy.

     

    No, just the ones who are whining, who fail to try themselves. Those who aren't trying, and don't care about it, are playing right.

     

     

    3/4 of the playerbase don't even have 6 inorganic nexus.

     

    2-4 will likely be enough as can be seen in my screenshots. It's random so it *can* show in stuff requiring more (and will, hydro comes to mind), but as can be seen I've found it the majority of the times in things like flowers, shrooms, and way too many times in branches.

     

    Even still, this being a BUG REPORT, this is player fault, not a bug, if it shows up in something that can't be harvested because of a lack of nexus. This is a *harvester's* competition, a harvester should have all needed nexus.

     

    I don't think you posting a HOW-TO guide on hunting pears actually caused your 'crap' treatment.

     

    There's that "think" again without actual knowledge. The person I referred to specifically berated and belittled me because they used my provided info to get to the pear before me.

     

     

     

     

    There isn't a bug with who finds it, it's just who can be bothered to run around maps for hours regardless of the 70k? price tag, idek how much they cost anymore seen as I don't really log onto EL. - THAT is not laziness, that is just using their time more productively so they dont waste up to 20k in pear finders for someone else to get it.

     

    Then those who "want to use their time more productively" can do so, this is not their issue. If they don't want to "waste" the time, effort, and gc it takes to become a good hunter, and choose to do something else instead, that's perfectly fine, not everything is for everyone. This isn't their business.

     

    Whining because I and others enjoy doing it and doing the hunt, despite the pear finder and time waste (do you people seriously think I don't waste them as well when mala or stivy finds it, or when it's unreachable, which happens all too often?) is hardly productive, yet so many continue to do it. This thread being the prime example of the lowest of low, trying to claim it's a bug.

     

    And wait... I thought the problem was that it was "too easy" to find, taking less than 10 minutes. What are these hours you speak of, or is one of you finally admitting what my screenshots have proven all along, that it can take *much* longer than that?

     

    Please get your stories straight.

     

    Sure its a gc sink, but others think its a waste of time.

     

    And yet those others keep wasting time whining about it. And filing false bug reports.

     

     

    THE ONLY Lazy person is you. You can't be bothered to interact with other human beings (It doesnt seem like you want to, so correct me if i'm wrong)

     

    Funny, the people I interact with on a daily basis, some of which I have for years, would disagree.

     

    I intentionally don't interact with people who constantly troll and make a nuisance of themself. Huge difference. And yes, that's generally the most vocal 6:ers, where this nonsense that I don't communicate with anyone came from (trolls making up stuff as they go along just to troll, and here you are rehashing it), which is why I almost never post on 6 other than to moderate. I have no interest in them, and years of experience have shown their only reason for trying to constantly contact me is to cause problems. So no, I don't fall for the bait that leads to that crap.

     

     

    Your lies notwithstanding, I and every moderator know your problems with me. In fact, it's your sole purpose for posting here. This topic would have no interest to you if I weren't involved.

     

     

    And that's enough off-topic. The PK crap won't be responded to. This is a BUG REPORT about PEAR FINDING, stick to the subject. This is not general chat.


  11. Bad idea.

     

    1) Takes away the only difference between it and a treasure hunt. We have enough exactly-the-same things in the game already.

     

    2) Unlike a treasure bag which can be on any walkable spot, this would tell you it's in a nearby harvable. You wouldn't even have to be "hot", once you get remotely close there's only going to be a small amount of harvs it could be in. The "getting warmer" style used for finding treasure won't work with this.

     

    3) As well, you're gonna extremely hike the pear price this way, a price which is already off-putting for many who may buy. Pear finders cost >>>>>>>>>>> treasure finder cost. I guarantee instantly hiking it to 300kgc if the current method is changed, working from that price up or down depending on the cost of finding it.

     

     

    (I've been slowly trying to bring the price down. 7k less than it was last month already, and people who don't hunt or even use them keep trying to come up with ways to push it not only up, but excruciatingly painfully priced. And that is exactly what the end result of this would be. Suggestions are supposed to improve, not completely debilitate things.)

     

     

    State your PERSONAL recent pear hunting experience that explains why you have the knowledge needed to know this change is necessary. Why you think pears should be so extremely priced. And why you want everything in the game to be exactly the same instead of having a variety so different people with different styles of play all have options.

     

    I've provided actual logic and reasoning behind my "nay". Provide yours.


  12. I tell you what... despite (as I mentioned before) having been treated like complete crap for providing this before:

     

     

    http://life-is-etern...-find-pear.html

     

    I put it back up. There you go. Every single one of the secrets to finding a pear, in exhaustive detail. You can no longer claim that I, mala, or Stivy have any means of finding the pear that you don't have yourself. You cannot possibly get any better info on how to pear hunt than what is provided there.

     

    The only thing that leaves is laziness. You want to voice an opinion on pear hunts, prove you're not lazy first.


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    No, some people play games to relax, I¨m one of them.

     

     

    There are many aspects to this game. That some of them are geared towards more active people is not a PROBLEM. I'm a level 132 alcher, I know what it means to sit for hours and hours mixing, harving, etc. Now once every 6 hours I get something that's a challenge

     

    Not that I'm complaining about the mix grind. THAT I do to relax. The hunt I do for the challenge.

     

     

    And yes, I'm gonna get damn pissy at anyone wanting to take that away from me just because they're too lazy to actually put the effort into it that I did. Whining because I'm reaping the benefits of having taken the time to practice and learn.

     

    If you're too lazy to try, there's plenty else to do already. To *relax* with. This isn't for you, it's for others who aren't lazy.

     

    I have hand issues that guarantee I can never pk effectively, lacking the reflexes to counter more than what practicing for a/d leveling allows, so I don't try it. In the same respect, if you have a laziness issue that prevents you from taking the time to learn to effectively hunt as I, mala, and Stivy have done, don't try it.

     

    But don't whine because others actually do, and have taken the time you're too lazy to take and eventually become good at it.

     

    Zero tolerance for lazy whining.


  14. No, I loathe people using "only a couple finding them" as an excuse to not look themselves. Which is all this is really about.

     

    That the whining didn't start until *I* became one of those people (noone whined when it was pretty much just malameo) doesn't help.

     

    That I even wrote a complete tutorial on my blog explaining everything in exacting detail on how to be a pear hunter, to encourage others to join in, didn't help. Hell, the first person to use that and randomly happen to find one sent me a barrage of insults on how they used my own info against me, instead of thanking me for showing me how to do it, so I took it down.

     

    And you think after *months* of listening to this same BS I should keep up the "nice guy" routine? Nope. Lazy people talking pure nonsense will be treated like clueless lazy people.

     

    You can't please lazy people. There's no way.


  15. Tone it down drama queen. Yes people are saying silly things about bugs or special non existent mod powers, but guess what, you're playing a game where there are 100-200 other people so you're going to hear some stupid stuff. Sitting here and insulting people isn't going to do anything to solve the problem. The blue spam isn't the problem, the fact that, atm, the game allows for a few people to corner the pear market is the problem. There's all sorts of stuff like that in EL that need to be looked at, let's start here.

     

    The only drama queens here are the whiny lazy people who never try.

     

    But thanks for showing you're not actually reading anything. My post showed Mala's almost complete "corner of the market" could be disrupted, and Stivy is showing that even now others can cut into the "action".

     

    I started off in the exact same position you are now. And despite mala already regularly finding them quickly, I was able to work my way into doing the same. That it's been going on for months means nothing, as Stivy has shown anyone can still start trying now.

     

    I spent weeks learning to do that, and even today continue learning new things. That's your problem, you're too damn lazy to do that. The only point of this BS bug report is because a few of us others weren't as lazy as the whiners.

     

    The only, and I mean, ONLY thing keeping others from doing the same is sheer laziness. They'd rather sit around doing nothing, and cook up BS drama with false bug reports and incessant whining.

     

    Off your butt, and do something. Just like I did. Just like Stivy did. Practice and you win. Don't practice and your incessant whining is pointless.


  16. how can people get better at finding pears if the same people find them over and over and over again, and fast?

     

     

    Here's your proof, btw, of the real bug, that people's names get shown in the blue spam. If it wasn't known that there were certain people doing it, that wouldn't be used as the lazy excuse to not try.

     

    Just picking that one saying of it, I've heard this nonsense a dozen times.

     

     

     

     

    And okay, ask me... Once Upon a Time malameo was the one who almost always found the pears. I hadn't started trying.

     

    Then I decided to give it a shot. It was probably TWO WEEKS before I found my first one, and that primarily out of the luck that it was an off hour and I didn't see anyone else looking.

     

    During those two weeks, malameo continued to find pears long before I'd even find the map. But practice made perfect (*I honed my skill*) and those weeks of practice led me to finding better ways to checking the maps.

     

    Now, 4+ years of actually taking the time to look around at the maps had already given me a good knowledge of the maps, though not exactly where every harvestable was, I had a good idea of where to look.

     

    I took time out of my daily grind and power-leveling to mark maps, look around, get very familiar with the harvestables on each. So once my map-finding skills were better honed, I could more quickly start checking all the harvestables on the map.

     

    Even still, in the end there's nothing but luck. Mala, Stivy, and I all searching IP once at the same time for the pear, I find it out of sheer luck. 20+ minutes digging around Grubani (along with mala and Stivy) and mala stumbled on it first.

     

    2+ hours searching all of Palon Vertas (4 of us that time) only to determine it was in one of the dozen unreachable items.

     

    Yeah, that's easy. </sarcasm> And yeah, that's the part (the collective) you don't grasp, because you're coming in here with your completely unknowledged opinions trying to state them as fact.

     

     

    Yeah, I'm a damn good hunter. Because I actually took the time to learn patterns, hone skills, study the maps. Every single thing I did to work my way up to being one of the top pear finders is just as doable by anyone else in the game. (Well, with proper inorganic nexus, all harvest knowledge, and harv 95 or more is highly recommended though the pear is rarely seen in dung/amber).

     

     

    This is why I call the whiners lazy. What do you do to become a better fighter? Train, practice pk, whatever. What do you do to become a better pear hunter? Study the maps, learn good patterns, learn to control speed hax... yes, you have to actually practice. And yes, all that practice time comes with essentially no leveling whatsoever. The trade-off.

     

     

     

     

    And I said "Ask Stivy" because he's the only one of late I've seen who hasn't been just sitting around lazily whining, and actually trying. And finding pears before me/mala sometimes already. He may have a different story than mine, but he's proof that anyone can still start hunting and with trial and error eventually become a good hunter. If he continues as he has, you'll likely see his name as often as me and mala, because he's actually trying. And even the failed attempts, like I just said of mine, add to his experience which will improve his hunting skills.

     

    But therein lies the problem, the "bug"... the whiners are too lazy to try.

     

    And again, I say, that's player fault, not a bug.

     

    Seems you don't like being an EL celebrity :/

     

    No, people are using it as an excuse to not even try. And that's all it is, an excuse.


  17. No, I'm not taking taking it "too personally". It's been a day after day after day for months barrage of incredibly lazy people spewing crap like this, now it's gotten to such insanely pathetic levels that these lazy people who've never tried themselves are spewing their BS here claiming it's a bug.

     

    That the lazy mouth-runners have no skill in the hunt is not a bug.

     

    As I said, after months of this crap, I'm not responding nice anymore to lazy unskilled wonders who have to waste everyone's time spewing their jealousy of others who can do something that they can't, or won't.

     

    It's been going on for months, not just when this thread was started. Channel 6, PMs, whiners on (that troll forum), and more. And yes, it started then as a way to personally attack me, so no I'm not taking it "too personally". This is a continuation of it, though now there's more just generally unskilled jealous people generally whining that they can't find it... when they don't even look.

     

    The only opinions that actually matter here are mine, mala's, and as well Josefine and Stivy... the only people I've known to actually participate anytime recently. (If there's more, they haven't been visibly searching.)

     

    Anyone else wanting their opinion to matter should get off their lazy backsides and get some experience to back up their unfounded opinions.

     

     

    Note that these negative unfounded opinions are coming from people who don't hunt the pears, nor do they even have use of them. Think about their true ulterior motives for vehemently posting their completely knowledge-less opinions on something that doesn't affect them in the slightest bit. It's not about the pears for some, it is personal. It is about the pears for others, but only in a jealous "I don't have that kind of skill" or "I'm too lazy so I'll just spout off at the mouth" manner. There is no PROOF to back up any of the nonsensical BS being spewed by these people who've never even tried.

     

     

    So again, I say, yes there's a bug, in that the name of the person who finds it is in the blue spam. That needs to be removed, because it alone makes certain people whine too much.


  18. You can't claim it's too easy if you haven't found one yourself.

     

    That in itself is proof you actually have no clue what you're talking about. It means your opinion is as informed as mine would be on pk.

     

     

    Once again, last reminder that this is a bug forum. Bugs require proof, not "I thinks", something not a single jealous complainer has yet to provide. By definition, if you haven't hunted and continuously "easily found it", you have no proof that it's too easy to find. On a bug forum, proof is obligatory.


  19. Actually, I'll report the real bug, and the real reason there's whining at all.

     

     

    The blue spam shows who found the pear.

     

    Grapes get no blue spam at all (I know, game design limitation). Treasures get found without announcing who found them. Pears should be the same.

     

    Today's pear has been found!

     

    is what I suggest it be changed to. Without knowing who found it, people can quit their incessant whining about me, or malameo, or (of late) stivy.


  20. These threads really should be limited to people who have even the remotest clue of what they're talking about. This is just getting damn pathetic.

     

     

    Here's some verifiable proof:

     

    - 133 pear finds so far by me, not a single one in the same spot, ever.

     

    - Found on over 80% of all possible harvestable maps.

     

    - Majority of them screenshotted to show verifiable proof (including another post added today to the link above with a motherload more of the most recent finds, including the one complained about it in the first post).

     

    - I have a 61% find rate. That is, when I actually hunt (not asleep or at a party or just unavailable) I find it 61% of the time. The other 39% by default disproves all the nonsense posted above by people with no clue.

     

    - The AVERAGE TIME for the pear to be found (of times I've tried, including time it took someone else to find it those times) is 26 minutes. Which means, yes, it could be found in a couple minutes, but there's also other times where it's taken an hour or more to make that the average time.

     

     

     

     

    Now, back up this pure and utter bulls**t that you have-no-clues keep spewing or for the love of all that is holy, quit this jealous drivel because you simply lack the skill to try yourself. (Having heard this nonsense over and over, day after day, for months on end by every lazy person who can't be bothered to actually dare try to hunt themselves, I have lost all will or care to respond in any way that would be considered nice. You lack skill, that's not a bug.)

     

     

     

     

    BTW, getting back to the subject at hand... this is the BUGS forum, not a "I think" or discussion forum.

     

    Provide proof of a bug, or the thread is closed. Thus far the only verifiable proof of anything has come from me, and it shows all the uninformed claims here to be false, therefore there is no bug.


  21. Actually, #help_me should be considered the *only* possibility for a moderator issue, unless a specific moderator already dealt with the issue in question in the past. (or #abuse if reporting a rule violation of course.)

     

    The #help_me method allows an actually-available moderator to respond, rather than disturbing an individual one who may be busy IRL, or dealing with something else, or sick and "not playing mod" that day, or whatever.

     

    By using the command, you still get direct contact with a moderator, just with one that's actually available to respond. That's the whole point of the command.

     

    Being logged in does not mean being available. Always use #help_me for mod issues. Always.


  22. Eh, the pictures also show that answer too. There's several pics of the same maps there, and none show it being found in the same spot.

     

     

    Short answer:

     

    Finding it requires extensive knowledge of the maps, something which I took the time to do over the course of the past 4+ years, not just learning closest-to-sto stuff like most do.

     

    Finding it requires a plan, making your way through maps with finders in the quickest manner possible. (Which by definition also requires speed hax.)

     

    Finding it requires knowing every map that has harvesting possibility.

     

    Finding it fast once you've found the map, outside of knowing where all the harvs are, requires nothing but luck unless it's a small map.

     

     

    In a case like the one mentioned at the start of this thread, a lot of luck. 8 maps checked with finders, found it in the 2nd harvest... on Grubani Peninsula which has a ton of spread-out harvs. Pure luck. Unlike the last time it appeared on that map, where I checked for almost 20 minutes and someone else got to it first.

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