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That.... explains.... a lot!

Welcome to Eternal Lands! It's great to see such constructive input form a new player, you've gave us some great insight into where the strengths and weakness are for newbies! Looks like Chr0nik has addressed heaps! You have a few options on how to get to Naralik, by using a Naralik teleport ring (which can be bought from players or some "Bots" (purple names)) or by walking across Morcaven Marsh (careful, this map has armed skeletons). If you see me in game, feel free to ask for help and advice! Hope you're with us for many years to come. Here's some useful reference sites for this game. Hopefully, you'll find them helpful. http://www.el-cel.com/ http://el-wiki.net/Main_Page And don't worry, Racoon hats are cool! Players might buy them.

Happy anniversary!

Human removal and Magic removal from MM sunflowers. (Massive time gap between them) I LIKE THOSE FLOWERS!

Oh? Well if you think there should be changes, why not be the one to take the first step? Actions speak louder than words.

Nuu Dalli, that's when they win! I know what you mean, but I agree with Dilly, just because you like evil, doesn't mean you are evil. Personally, I think EL has adequate "evil". You find most players find a good reputation more valuable than your DB. Ebul CherUT/Xanthus going to BJ me? :'( Come on, some one has to set up to the plate if that's what you want to see ingame ^^

For a new player, which is willing to take advice from others, the two first purchases would be an excav cape, then an MM cape. Major price difference between the two! Fast way for newbies to make that money is harvesting lilacs in Whitestone and selling them to the NPC for 0.5gc each (an old scheme but a good one). Just want to give you a rough idea of how hard newbie has to work. Harvest Time: ~5 mins Walk time: 2 mins Excav EMU: 200 Value: 2900 Lilacs: 5800 Trips: 29 Time: 3 hours 23 mins MM cape EMU: 280 Value: 15000 Lilacs: 30000 Trips: 109 Time: 8 hours 10 mins (with excav on) K, rough comparison. Hard work for a newbie in my opinion - Getting a 15k cape before you can go fetch some books for 3kgc. Rather try to just buy the books from someone and get scammed like I did

Yeah, wonderful was wonderful. Main one I miss is Schmurk - funny dwarven frenchman!

True Cilestiel, In which case, they can buy it back later What made the price of MMs go up? I can't recall the drop chance was decreased....

In the instructions: I too would suggest making a music directory, then installing the files there - because that's what it says to do. But yeah, would make it two clicks easier.

Whoever picks up the loot in the end, is who is in control. Doesn't mean this person has to agree. If they're good, they'll tell you the drop, if not... well they don't have to, people are allowed to be evil. >

Hello, This is pretty straight forward, upon completing a quest, youreceive the message box "<creatures> dead" or "You've got all the <plant>" etc etc. Should you choose to continue what you're doing beyond just for the quest, you will receive this message time and time again for every +1 to the count. Wouldn't it be better to just have this message appear once? Cheers!

Perhaps change matter conglomerate and vial mold away from vegetable icons. New alembic icon. Is it possible to make mules and horses solid so that people can't sit in/under them? Royal Red/Purple capes look "interesting" with universal hood. Phoenix shapeshift would look awesome with added eye candy... you know what kind Cheers!

I still think Trik is a better option. Using Cruella's statistics, I think I can show you why. Firstly, note the difference between the two loss amounts, losing 6.2kgc using trik and 18.2kgc at a school. The difference is 12kgc (obviously). How long does it take to make 12kgc from scratch?. Let us say we make money from HEs -nearly everyone can make them, they're not bad money- it would take about 2-2.5 hours. Within 2 hours, I'm confident I could haul an extra 2k leather and 3k thread, and the extra 94 Potions of Feasting. Next. Initially, we spend 38, 205gc using Trik and 19, 103gc using a school. Now, Trik pays 20gc each per a leather helm. Therefor, we get a return of 80% on our gold coins spent on ingredients + food. (1563 * 20 = 31 260, 31 260/38, 205 = ~80%). If the money from Trik is continually reinvested until we get to 0gc. Err...From now on I won't be referring to Cruella's post as she has included her rationality in her calculations, and I don't want to. Orginal amount | Exp. Given 38, 205gc | 84, 402 (base exp + god (+20%) makes it 84, 402 exp) 30, 564gc | 67, 522 24, 451gc | 54 018 19, 560gc | 43 214 15, 649gc | 34, 571 12, 519gc | 27, 657 10, 015gc | 22, 125 8, 012gc | 17, 700 6, 410gc | 14, 160 5, 128gc | 11, 328 4, 102gc | 9, 062 3282gc | 7, 250 2625gc | 5800 (Formulas for the win ) Accumulatively, the money spent on Trik gives over 385k exp. So, even if we spend the same amount of money at Trik as we did on the school (half), we still get more total exp. To get 385k exp in the school: 45 base exp * 1.2 for god * 2 for school = 108. 385k / 108 = 3565. 3565 * 23gc a helm = 82kgc. Referring back to my HEs for money, it would take AT LEAST 14 hours to get the money, for that exp. when using the school. Using Trik it is 6 hours and double the time hauling. And double the hauling will not be more than the 8 hours difference it takes to make the money. Also, when doing the loads to Trik, I think most haul leather + thread + food + needles, rather than leather + thread + food + needles + an inventory full of leather helms. So with this, One quarter of the leather helms are made at storage (hooray). **Disclaimer** This is nothing against Cruella herself. I'm sure she's lovely, it's just that I think any leather-helming-school-user is wrong. proveth meh wrong EDIT: The HEs have very little to do with this, they were just an example I used as a way to get money because I knew how long they take. It could have been anything; blue lupines, titanium, steel bars. Whatever you like, it makes little difference.

Hi all! Just interested in the general opinion on guild merges. Perhaps you want to, but which guild to ask? You'd like to have a lot more guildies but don't want to change your tag? Too hard to get everyone to agree? I'd like to encourage it (somehow)! Big guilds are pro guilds imo, at the moment, they're more like player parties. So many guilds that have grown outdated. Time to refresh our el divisions! And think, what do most players look for when choosing a guild? That it's very active and pro! Just to put it bluntly, EL population has depleted, so there's no use pretending your guild pop. hasn't. Go forth and multiply divide fare guilds!!!!

Hi all, Just in the mood to do a couple signatures/custom clothes.bmp/or any random arty thingies really - doesn't necessarily have to be for EL. First two to post a request will be free. If there's any requests after that... I guess... 10kgc each? Not keen on being, good enough to be an actual "Signature Maker", just a spur of the moment type-thing. My current signature made by forever

Maximos! Have a feeling I went off on my only little tangent lol. Anyway, sig 1. Sorry it took so long, got lazy... and busy... but mainly lazy.

I'm asking both. What kind of person would I be to encourage something of players without knowing how they feel about it? PEN and *CO* could merge. What would be wrong with that? Help the newbies, let the newbies be inspired to train by PKers "To follow the path, look to the master, follow the master, walk with the master, see through the master, become the master." Why isolate players into categories? The combination can be beneficial. But I agree on critical mass but what would that be? 30? 50 active members? Something like that?

no no korr, bad bad man, can't mention traditional cultural heirarchies without offending someone! :-P I agree. But really, newbies can harp all they want for rank 20, don't mean they're going to get it. Or that if they do get it, that anyone will let them lead. There's a sidenote: Newbie GMs cut their losses, pro addicts only for rank 20

Way to go Rivan Warriors!!!

Per level = 2285 Creature Food * 65gc = 148 571gc = 1143 minutes = 19.05 hours Total = 32000 Creature Food * 65gc each = 2 080 000gc = 16000 minutes = 266.66 hours = 11.11 days 2 080 000gc / 9kgc/h = 231.1 hours = 9.629 days For me to get level 14 phoenix = 20 days non stop playing EL, so more like 200 days litterally. However! This all becomes rather irrelevant after levelling is finished. Keeping phoenix form is 8450gc/h + glyph for: 70% chance of reborn, 14 attack levels, 19% chance to flee, 14 fire protection, + cooldown chance? Is it worth it? Yes. Will I be doing it any time soon? No. EDIT: *Half way out the door* D'oh, that's right, it goes from level 0, not level 1... but you get the idea. >.<

Oh for the win Maximos!!! Sure thing!

Great Competition!!! Tigerclaw's The Rival was my flavourite. Big congrats to Nova too <3

My Lord This story is based on this screenie: http://img80.imageshack.us/img80/7413/invasionedittc4.jpg Good times.

Something like this...? Maybe?