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Thats wrong tbh: Pk was deadish, Radu gave it the kiss of life with ND KF, now people for god knows what reason want to put in on its knees and put a bullet through its head Im not sure Radu was making much money from PK before No drop KF, since most of the PK only took place on NDD (only he can answer that), afaik most of the rost's were lost as they are now, in invasions. Why dont you ask yourself why they dont , maybe just maybe its because they prefer ND KF PK suggestion No. 156893839.6870 section B Why dont all those who want to 1 v 1 pm each other and ermm go PK in an arena, instead of trying to force others to use arena's by making KF drop again

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If you look at RL the halberd was an inaccurate high damage slashing/chopping weapon, and the spear while not dealing as much damage was more accurate because it was a stabbing weapon: so the stats I would go for are : Dmg 35-50 -1 defense +1 accuracy -2 crit to Hit +2 crit to dmg

I cant deny that you may be right, and I have said before I dont mind the system as it is now, with the #pki command still in place its a nice personal record. Just to myself the potential of losing alot of PK by making KF drop again isnt worth the risk.IMO it would be a step backwards Popularity might drop off in the short term but IMO in the long term as new players (some who may never have heard of the pki system) join the game/come up the ranks and want to PK a ND KF can only benifit that. To me anyway it was a case of looking to the future.

You do know the cheap rost will only be used on PK maps if you kill a person, you will still have to pay 16kish for normal rosto for invasions/training etc and KF is a no drop map you dont need a rosto not at 5k, not at 16k, so Kit you can PK for free (apart from items ofc)

Thats all well and good IF we didnt have a ND map,but we do. So even at 5k you're are ADDING to the cost not making it cheaper. So you have to really reverse your theory to people might PK 4x less not more

Is it just me who misses the logic of this post With an extra 5kish on top of the cost players use now for srs/he's/armour etc wouldnt that make PK MORE expensive not less ? And the drops would come from where ? Since people are using the new 5k rosto

Speaking of it, wouldn't be a bad idea to have 100-130 a/d instance in between the 80-100 one and the one which apparently takes 130+ a/d players to be mastered. I believe that 100-130 a/d instance would soon prove to be the most popular one, as it would cover the widest range of fighters in game. Agreed, the 100-130 group atm seem to be stuck between too easy (80-100) and too difficult (130+)...and as dreyan said, it could prove to be the most popular a/d catagory, since thats where people usually stop training or slow down when the exp / lvl gets to 'large for them to handle'. Also you often get the bunch of people trying to get 100 in each skill, and once they have gotten 100 a/d(or maybe a little larger) they focus on other skills. Totally agree with all thats said here

Nice... very Vikingesque

Just quoting the points Entropy made in the other thread, so people have a rough idea what they are voting for.. It's possible that if rosto were cheaper people would take much bigger risks and lose more... but nonetheless, i do understand your concern... Since you're currently not getting any rosto sales from PK deaths anyway, would you consider making another kind of stone that works as a rostogol does but only in PK maps/areas and costs US$1 at the shop? ...and implement the idea with that stone? No, but I could consider one that works only when you are killed by a player directly. voted no : see other thread for reasons

So it's ok to penalize people, who aren't part of ally cities? It's ok to penalize people who don't want to use 100k to giants that they could even have a small chance to win a fight in ND KF? It's ok to penalize people who really don't find the gladness of ND KF and would like to pk at arenas? Yea yea... Really fair. Of course there would be possibility to change NCa ND too, but I think it's not going to happen... Edit: Or make singe combat area on ND KF as suggested on no drop NCA -topic. Starting to sound like " me me me " rather than whats best for all

So I take it you have never played a friendly game of football ( soccer to the unwashed) or cricket or basketball where nothing was at at stake apart from pride ? and isnt the penalty for failure.failure itself ? it is in my eyes, why penalize someone for failure or not being as good as others.. its a game so that should equal fun not being penalized everytime you dont cut it as much as the next guy. ( you dont get charged anything if you lose a game of chess, if someone spins off in motor racing he just fails, he isnt charged $20,000 aswell ) We have got active PK atm so IMO best to leave it as it is, because im pretty sure if any changes are asked for and given,and then buggers PK up Radu wont change them back (TD anyone),so best to be grateful for what we have tbh. Dont think we will agree on this point Kor but hey make a poll and see what the majority want.. its those that matter not us ..... and hey you can always put these idea's on your own EL server

OK is it worth f00king up pk for pki and maybe the arena's used again ? Only lose 5k a week, which is one rosto... so either not PKing very much (Pk is dead again) or Diss/teleing every fight (no pki being lost/gained). So you have gained ???? not alot by my reckoning. But nothing to stop anyone using Arena's now is there .... o wait they are empty because ppl prefer ND kf

Because i don't think it's been "getting good", it's lost a lot of the thrill. EDIT: That's not to say i don't still enjoy PK'ing with KF no drops and PKi ranks removed, i do, just saying it's not as enjoyable as it was. EDIT2: Also, if the commonly trained creatures (ogre/clops/fluff/feros/yeti/all chims) dropped this small/pk rosto fairly often, it'd help to ensure PK is kept active. I ment "good" as in active, wether it is thrilling or not anymore for you is beside the point, and any idea's should be what's best for all not just half a dozen ppl and wouldnt mobs dropping the stone's totally screw up one of the main points of this idea and that $1 from the shop for Radu's castle ?

Don't forget arena fighting and depriving enemy of 5kgc - imo; worth it. Just difference of opinion Cona differance of opinion ..yup true ,but be boring if we all the same But you have been one of the biggest shouters for idea's to "increase pk" I just wonder why now you like an idea that could potentially damage it once again, just when its getting good

No. But i strongly believe PK would be much more active @ ~5kgc per death than it was @ ~20kgc per death. but less active than 0k per death no ? so just for the sake of pki imo pointless

So if you got that, you would be happy if PK went back to its previous state of not much of it ? @ kaddy below Well get rid of pki then, not keep it with the potential idea to knacker PK all together again

and if KF is drop again the potential to get pki is greatly reduced , since maybe IMO PK will go back to its previous "not much of it" state, well apart from NDD like it used to be, but since its NDD no need to carry small rost = no pki lost if killed. Persoanlly I dont think for just pki its worth the risk of buggering pk again (and neither do 69% of people and no point having a poll if going to ignore it), hope the ppl who think its great will prove me wrong Hopefully Radu will do like he did with no drop KF, and get an agreement from those who think its a pr0 idea and would help pk, to have to be in pk everyday

Would that Include making KF a drop map again ?

But hey if PKI is that important Use Kaddys idea but leave KF no drop, then those who want PKI can use Nca and risk their rosto's and the rest of us who it means nothing to can use KF

People complained that PK was to fractured before KF became no drop, so what would change this time if it became drop again ? Plus you might lose those Pker's who started to pk just because KF became no drop. Imo I dont think it is worth the risk of f00king up PK again just for the sake of a few worthless PKi points, when atm its the best it has been for ages note: I like the low a/d players being there, they have some pr0 fights that are good to watch and it gives them a good,safe taste for pk

I know Kor, but sadly and I hate to be the one to break it to them, but PK isnt just about players high enough to give PKI.Many people below that level have been using KF for the simple reason it is No drop (even had a few nice 20-30 a/d gang fights in there) and they dont lose anything if Mr pr0 kills them. I suppose we could pat them on the back, say "thanks but no thanks" , pack them off to DP arena and then moan in a few weeks that PK is dead/to fractured between areas etc etc etc etc

Hmmm so for the sake of a little Pki, you would reduce the amount of PK action ?. I dont care what anyone says, making Kf drop again and having rosts cost 5k would reduce the amount of PK . There has been more PK action in KF since it became No drop than there has for age's and you want to risk that lol. Some people never happy