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well bob ..spawn availability is another problem you have tons of people 40 levels lower occupying a spawn (nothing wrong with this ) except for the fact that now people who are suitable cannot train ...this created a kink in the food chain and imo it is ONE reason (not all) that this change needs be implemented... and if you were around a little longer for changes such as cooldown and vile removal mabye this wouldnt strike you as such a drastic change (mabye you were ) anwser this bob...does entropy care about losing his a/d level lmfao ii think not, so why not ask him why he feels this is best for HIS game no one forced you to pay 400k for that cape and no one forced you to add pp this is all youre choice , no?

lmfao you gonna make someone commit suicide masterpiter is on fluffy with god knows how many free pp probably 60 or more the point levin makes is that the Nmt influences people to stay very low p/c to train , if they ran more risk of breaking items , they would increase their P/C as protection thus making them stronger in pk...you understand?

well ok ill give it a shot.................... Entropy implemented something(the artificer perk) that didnt quite work the way he/players felt it should work (given the cost of pp ect..) and being that this is a "beta" game he made the neccessary adjusments to ballance the problem which in this particualr situation called for pp reimbursment much like in this situation Entropy and some of his experienced devs and mods feel this cape should be made to break (due to their extensive experience mabye we should stop and ask why)... i seem to have missed youre point a bit..................if you buy a car is it still worth the same in a year NO , thats life and unfortunalty thats EL.................................do you think this is the first thing that will loose value in EL? lol not even close and it wont be the last I promise that Btw i wouldnt have any problem with you guys being refunded (besides the fact thats its ridiculous) but im not some evil ittle man trying to fuck you out of youre gc

please refer to page 6 post #119 levinmage makes a VERY good point about the impact this will have on PK

That is also a good point that needs to be addressed. Players bought NMT's knowing that the encyc said that the cape was unbreakable. So if the cape is made breakable hasnt the cape been bought under false pretences and players should be refunded ? I Think Ent set the precedent himself when people complained that the Arti perk didnt do what it said it did in the encyc and he refunded PP. Its not a moan or a flame.. just another point to the discussion edit: spelling BETA...BETA....BETA.......BETA.....BETA.....BETA..... ASK ASGNNY TO EXPLAIN THIS TO YOU yep beta game but Ent himself set the precendent when he refunded PP's IN A BETA GAME for the arti perk ? true or not -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- yes he did, he showed how this is a beta game and things are subject to change, thank you for making my point i think you dont understand the concept of beta with a reply like that

That is also a good point that needs to be addressed. Players bought NMT's knowing that the encyc said that the cape was unbreakable. So if the cape is made breakable hasnt the cape been bought under false pretences and players should be refunded ? I Think Ent set the precedent himself when people complained that the Arti perk didnt do what it said it did in the encyc and he refunded PP. Its not a moan or a flame.. just another point to the discussion edit: spelling BETA...BETA....BETA.......BETA.....BETA.....BETA..... ASK ASGNNY TO EXPLAIN THIS TO YOU IT WILL BE DISTRUBITED ON OTHER MONSTERS (too lazy to change caps lock) so other people will be getting also not only evil yeti ppl

well for one you realise this game is beta (yes i made this point already but some people obviously dont read) beta means this game is subject to change and we have to deal with that...... when something gets implememnted into this game sometimes it has some consequences that are over looked and wont show up for a year or more then the proper adjustments have to be made to restore ballance, thats what is happenng her no one wants the Nmt to stop doing its job , we just need to create and exit ramp for them, they will still be a steady supply of them but they will just break now (everything should break)

you are only worrying about youreself , you have to step back and look at this game as a whole every single game creator and or people who have been here a long time and have seen how the economy works know what must be done , this is inevitable regarless if it happens today or in 6 months ....Most (not all) of the no votes were made thoguthlessly and selfishly , a few people after reading the thread expressed that they felt they made the wrong decision and wanted to change the vote to a yes break it vote ::justin im not trying to change youre mind i see u r very set in your ways and thats ok, im only trying to make u understand my point of view, i understand yours::: btw i dont train a/d anymore i sold my character i harvest only now, so my opinion in un-bias

Justin if they are made breakable ,it will only be a 1/40,000 (a titanium pl8 is a 1/10,000 and i think i have broke 3 of them since they were first introduced) also they will be made to drop 100% more ..and they will be moved onto more monsters....this is a good situation ...... read this thread with and open mind and i feel you will realise their are many Posotive reasons to make this cape break not just cause Evil people want to slow youre leveling (this may be some peoples reason but it isnt the main/only reason)..... No matter what the item their simply cannot be something that dosent break ..(especially an item with such power as this)

hmm why should someone be offened that they bought a char? is it an insult to be a char buyer? i leveld 400+mill exp ona bought char and maintained #1 atk def and magic for a year anyways...did you read the thread? their are MANY more reasons then the one you mentioned , many reasons better then the one you mentioned :::to all char buyers good for you let them make fun of you, just remember you payed money that cost you a week to make for something that costed soemone a year or more to make, so i think you made a smart and logical deal, good for you:::::: dont hate the player hate the game

i like this point

looter will all due respect, most people fight a fluffy for hours w/out a restock , and they take very little dammage, the odds that they will die are very small, so this isnt a logical solution imo

well at current cost for nexus stone and hydro bars 7 pp costs 1,750$ or around 7 million gc

thats because they knew it would be unbreakable again in a week or two, now it would be permanent so they wouldnt be able to sit and wait lol this is a completley ridiclious comparision Sorry but next time write ingame name Marwen's charbuyer cause i am not able to know every single charbuyer. ::raises hand:: im char DEALER i buy and sell char and i never care if someone like you has problem with it..lmfao people call others char buy,......is that supposed to be an insult????

geez for some reason piter is out to get me, everywhere i talk he is right behind me trying to beat me over the head, did i wrong you in some way? are u mabye mad i sold to luci ? and empi it dosent matter why someone paid 1mill or what ever they paid for whatever item, the fact remains that they did .

No, not all things change to lose value, this generalizing is a bit too easy. I can remember a time when a friend sold an NMT for 80kgc, while current going market price was about 100kgc. Now it's 400-500kgc, quite a good investment, eh? i Never said ALL things change, i just said things change and gave a few examples

with all due respect , warlock cloak sold for 1million gc now lol lucky to get 50k nexus stones sold for 1 million now 300k thermal serp sold for 500k now 300k things change and loose value, we all have to except this

Kotuniu is right. Let's keep it very rare. Almost elite. Common things are dull... :/ Also less nmt capes => more items break more items break => more items comes & goes through market It will be 1/40k chance to break... Do you think it will break much???!?! WELL TIT PL8 = 1/10,000 break rate...and that very rarley breaks,,so you deciede What about NMT perk takers? i dont understand what u r asking Some of people with low money takes NMT perks and uses 7 hard-earned pps... And as the NMT's are unbreakable, the perk of NMT has no advantage make it breakable then the perk takers will get their advantage of using 7 pps got it? oh yes, i agree

Kotuniu is right. Let's keep it very rare. Almost elite. Common things are dull... :/ Also less nmt capes => more items break more items break => more items comes & goes through market It will be 1/40k chance to break... Do you think it will break much???!?! WELL TIT PL8 = 1/10,000 break rate...and that very rarley breaks,,so you deciede What about NMT perk takers? i dont understand what u r asking

Kotuniu is right. Let's keep it very rare. Almost elite. Common things are dull... :/ Also less nmt capes => more items break more items break => more items comes & goes through market It will be 1/40k chance to break... Do you think it will break much???!?! WELL TIT PL8 = 1/10,000 break rate...and that very rarley breaks,,so you deciede

if they dont break = even if they come in game very rare THEY DONT LEAVE = less items break cause everyone has a nmt

did you read any of this thread? it will be only a 1/40,000 break rate drop rate will be increased by 100% and it will be added to more monsters

now thats a great idea

Told ya thats the kinda imo bs answer you'd get well it is what it is

im glad to see you will actually give this some research before clicking ill be interested to see what u deciede, ill be looking foward to a explanation as to how you came to a decision also