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I thought today why some of the players who play EL dont want the one client for each pc suggestion to pass to the next updates of Eternal Lands.I dont say that everyone who is against this suggestion is cheater but some of them who are against maybe are cheaters who dont want to loose their advantage. I will prove that one client is a very good way to limlit cheating. With this suggestion will stop over 90% of illegal and legal cheating. There two ways of cheating which i will explain (1) The idiot illegal cheating (2) The smart legal cheating For the illegal way of cheating: One human uses the same IP adress for multi-character and claims that he is honest. For examble: He has the main character Player_A and two alt characters Player_Mule_A_02 and Player_Mule_A_03. All these characters have the same IP adress. He uses the Player_A for the skills he wants to level up and the other two as mules. He is doing that with these ways:trade eachother,uses some middlemen to help him and the bagtrading which is more difficut to track because the bagtrading doesnt have id.If he is *smart* cheater he will level up the two mules and will claim that plays multi-character fair like honest players do for fun.Sooner or later he will be caught by the mods for his illegal actions and will be punished. Second i will explain how the experienced cheaters act legal and without punishment(because there is no rule for this action.) For example: There are four friends with different IP adresses who want to help easy eachother with a smart,legal but cheating way. Not necessary the players to be always 4 its an exable and not needed to belong to a guild each one or all of them to belong to the same guild. These are: (1) Player_B and his alt character Player_Alt_Mule_B (2) Player_C and his alt character Player_Alt_Mule_C (3) Player_D and his alt character Player_Alt_Mule_D (4) Player_E and his alt character Player_Alt_Mule_E All these players want to breake the rule 5 and never be punished because they will act with the legal way and nobody can punish them. These four humans will act like a gang. They will claim the multi-player honest way of game and will hide behind the honest players who play multi-character for fun and with fair way. Dont forget these four have different IP adresses. The cheat is this: Player_B uses his alt Player_Alt_Mule_B to mule for Player_C. Player_C uses his alt Player_Alt_Mule_C to mule for Player_B. Player_D uses his alt Player_Alt_Mule_D to mule for Player_E. Player_E uses his alt Player_Alt_Mule_E to mule for Player_D. After hours,days or weeks if they are smart enough and sure they are will change mules with eachother. They cheat but with the legal way:Rule 5 isnt for this action is only for same IP adresses trades actions. Nobody can add rule to stop trades or honest friends who want to help eachother because they will damage the game and all the guilds which use the help of their members for guild projects. There is no law to stop this cheating.These kind of players have found this way to cheat and to be leagal the same time. For them Rule 5 of the game is useless because is for players from same IP adresses. How you can stop these kind of actions? I think the best suggestion to stop illegal and legal cheating is the one client limit for each pc. Some will say that its easy to break it.I know that is easy to find crack or hack the client so the cheaters will coninue to cheat again. I explained before how some players from different IP adresses can break easy and legal the rule 5 of the game and if someone asks them why they have multi-characters they will say my alt character doesnt interact with me so i play honest check me everytime and i will be always legal and you will not find even one time me to break rule 5. Who or which can protect the Eternal Lands and the honest players from these kind of actions.Sure the rules cant because their objective is to look for same IP adresses and not from different. Some of you will say lets players to their free will if they want to play honest or cheating. Example: All the famillies during the sleeping time or when they leave their home for holidays have the doors locked and some of them have alarms to protect their home and them from criminal actions. When you say to let to players free will if they want to cheat or not is like in real life all of us during sleeping time or when we leave from our home to let the doors open,disable allarm if we have and let our home to criminals will to steal the home if he wants.This is the less will happen to us.The worst is to be insideand let our life to the hands of the criminal.Who wants to let his life to criminals hands? The police works like the mods in the game.The mods try their best to stop illegal actions and help for honest way of playing. But in real life police isnt enough to protect us and we need also locks,allarms so and in game the manual watch cant stop the smart cheaters who act in legal way which i explained above. The one client limit for each pc i think is a good suggestion to stop this way of different IP adress mulling. Some of you will say again its useless,nothing because its easy to crack the client or disable it because is open source. I explained how the smart cheaters break legally the rule 5.With the same logic what we must do to remove RUle 5 because some people can break it? With the same reason(some people break it.) some of you dont want the one client limit for each pc because some people will crack it. The client connects to the server and sents always messages for your ingame actions.If you crack or hack it the client will sent message to the server.Who is stupent enough to crack the client and thinks that nobody will notice it for a long time of playing. Look the ban forums how many players punished for illegal clients and how many for multi-character cheating or other actions? You can add a secret code to client which will be sent to server if the client is legal.If someone cracks the client find a way to sent another code to server so it will be easy to track the illegal clients. Now with the multi-character cheating the player who cheats and will be caught will say:Please unban me i will be honest, i will never cheat again or i didnt read all the rules or i was tires and i did mistakes. If some people crack the client there in no excuse for them.This action isnt a mistake which some will claim for multi-character cheating. What is more important some people who want to play honest multi-character or to limit illegal and legal cheating.

I agree with Orick very good idea Orick. The patch is a very good suggestion to find who is honest and play multi-character with the legal way and also will help the mods to find who are the cheaters who hide behind the honest players. Nobody can say that is useless,nothing before test it.The logic says first we test something and them we see if it is useless or not.Without testing we dont know.What we will loose if we try it(one client for each pc and the idea of Orick.)Most the cheaters will loose from it the honest players have nothing to afraid.

why is bad to add this suggestion to the EL client ? ( only one client per pc ) This will limit the number of the people who want to cheat not all but sure some of them . I agree with The_Piper lets make the cheat harder adding more limits . If it is so easy to crack the client and dont get caught why the rule 5 exists for illegal clients ? and i have a question : How an illegal client can be detected ? So the players who want to have alt characters to help each other will not have other solution but to crack the client or download a cracked client and then get caught and punished very hard . I never said that the players who have more than one pc must stop playing with this limit. They can play only thing they need is to be real family members or friends and not fake. Everyone who has 2 or 5 or 8 pc and plays alone EL game with this suggestion must jump like monkey from one pc to another to control the same time many characters and not easy control them from the same pc in windowed mode with the current client which allows many windows open at the same time in the same pc.

The players who pissed off with this good suggestion are these who want to cheat again and again. They are well known people who will try to destroy the post and insult those who want to play with less cheaters. Why is bad the one client per pc ? Haw many people have two or more pc.If they had many pc they would never play free online games like EL.Most players have only one pc. Less cheaters means less work to track them.

Sure some will try to modify the client and cheat again.Read rule 5 of the game rules.Cheating in the game means using illegal clients.The client connects to server and sure sents messages to server.They know when a client is legal or not because its rule of the game.If they couldnt track the illegal clients they wouldnt have this rule.

About multi-character cheat Its very difficult to find who is honest and who is cheating playing Eternal Lands. I have single player games to my pc and some multiplayer games. Games that i own and dont allow second time to open application files .exe to open to the same pc. If you try to open nothing happen.Games like Game = 4x4Evo2 File = 4x42.exe doesnt allow to open second application Game = Fallout Tactics File = BOS.exe doesnt allow to open second application(you can play online this game.) Game = Mafia File = Game.exe doesnt allow to open second application Game=NeverwinterNights File = nwmain.exe doesnt allow to open second application(you can play online this game..) If i try to open the game Championship manager 4 File = cm4.exe an error window opens with the message championship manager 4 is already running. If i try to open warcraft 3 Application=WarcraftIII.exe second time it displays the message Warcraft III is already running.(you can play online this game.) Game= Fallout File = fallout.exe doesnt allow to open second application to the same pc. Game=Fallout 2 File =Fallout2.exe doesnt allow to open second application Game = Max Payne File = MaxPayne.exe doesnt allow to open second application I downloaded and other online games like Game = endless online File = endless.exe doesnt allow to open second application. I wrote so many games and i could wrote many others who doesnt allow to open second application to the same pc. Why not Eternal Lands to do the same.I suggest that this would be a great change for the next update of the game. There are people who will say that want to play more than one character the same time online without the characters help eachother.There is solution for them.When you want to play your other character exit the main character and play the second or third character but one character online everytime.After a while the cheaters will stop playing EL because they have learnt to work with one,two,three or more characters online helping eachother hopping not get caught.Soon the cheaters will learn that only with the fair way they would be able to continue playing Eternal Lands. I think that this is a good way for Eternal Lands to reward the honest players and punish forever the cheaters. I like this game and i would like all the players to be honest but the game is like real life.There are good and bad people and the only way to stop the cheaters is the rules and the limits. All the honest and fair players will agree with this. The others who want to cheat and steal will not talk and will try to hide. I would like a lot of players to post their opinion here. Thanks for reading this.

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