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dont make me cry or i will loose my super anger powers of persuasion

your too kind Tess but really can you imagine Paladina asking to buy a binding stone for 7kgc , but the bot next to her will buy the binding stone for 15kgc -- who will the player sell to ? if you have another bot who then says and says i will buy for 16kgc we are now having issues with bots and its affecting your average joe shmoe player who just wants for example a COL but now to get one he has to pay 30kgc for 2 binding stones. Not cool anymore is it

seeing as it is a free market economy, im going to be asking to buy certain ingredients at the good old decent prices i remember i know nobody will sell me one but that doesnt mean im not allowed to ask within the rules of market channel asking every 5 minutes ( i hope it doesnt otherwise the price wars going on for bots are illegal too just you dont see it because everyone but the noobs have bots on ignore anyway ) trouble is people think that /rraisa is the market now and when they see the highest buy price or sell price of some bot then thats the market price, well it didnt allways used to be like that and doesnt have to be anymore if people would get up of thier ass and sell on market channel yes I agree bots are a wonderful income for games owners and so are shop bought rare items like stones but when you only have a playerbase of 500 people it might not be such a good thing to piss of those (the majority) who cant afford to regularly buy shop items with RL $$$ -- i probably shouldnt have said half of this ey

I thought that problem was already taken care of. Isn't that why we're all learning to deal with mini-events, to solve the gc farming problem? If it wasn't working I'm sure they would be removed and something new would be tried. True? tbh i could ''farm'' my way through more GC per hour by killing fluffs than mining Tit Ores, and fluffs dont even have best GC drop in game so ........

ive recently harvested a freakin tonne of diamonds and silver and flowers and havent found a single stone , come to think of it I havent found a stone while harvesting in months so im sure the price increase has more factors involved than 3-4 Bot Owners fuckingmessing things up with a price war. But yeh they not helping at all. Id rather not have the items than pay 13kgc for a binding stone, in fact I was looking at price of halberd today on some bots and thought you can go F yourself im not paying 70k for one when the other bots are buying them for 35k lmao bot owners are a bunch of clowns *edit* i know ive been accused of hyperventilating on the forums because of my ego ? or something like that but at least im speaking up about things ey ? like for example this whole issue I supposrted increase in manu prices in line with cost of ings but now its taking the piss and gone too far hasnt it ? Obviously its not the right thing to do to keep paying more and more and more and more and more for ings and end products. It REALLY doesnt have to be so stupid. But I think some people play this game too much and end up thinking about things ina really F'd up way instead of in a way that would benefit majority. *edit2* btw will everyone do me a massive favor and ban me from thier bots pls ? what do I have to do to get a bot ban let me know in pm pls

yeh but the thing is on the main server Rostogol Stones are not a buck a pop , if they were a buck a pop do you really think anyone would give a damn about ND arenas and ND KF ? *edit* on main server some rostos are on market for nearly 30kgc, thats not a cheap thing to replace because someone thought it was funny to declare war on weaker opponent

sorry I dont like it, I cant imagine my wife being logged in with her 20 a/d and someone declaring total war just to be an idiot she should have to pay 20kgc just to cancel it ? No thanks man. this would turn into an annoying function. Theres nothing wrong with total war as it is now, both guilds have to agree to it , which means consent. Forcing it upon people is not great, which is why there are seperate maps for Pk or the PK server. Contrary to popular belief there are still people who play EL who dont want to PK.

lol I am going to change my guild name to that for awhile perhaps we really should censor everything on the internets because then at least the media would be able to tell us exactly whats right and wrong I mean after all we have absolutely no way of discerning whats wrong and whats right without first listening to what our glorious leaders and medias think. ty bye

1.66666666 years later ive taken the skeptic perk long ago and tbh if it wasnt written in the encylopedia i wouldnt know astrology ever existed

My reply is NOT a bitch , im agreeing with the above comment but adding something to it. If these books give around 40k xp which is what I remember being discussed on chnl 6 then tbh anyone over lvl 50 in a skill prolly isnt going to bother relying on these books as a source of experience. Same goes for newbs, it will get to a point where the GC invested and the time it takes willnot be sufficient to advance in thier chosen skills. 40k isnt really a great deal when you need 900k plus for a lvl I think they are a great addition to the game and im going to be using one to raise my uber noob potion lvl

Suggestion: Add a life span to serp/binding/enrichment stones and all the enriched essences. Perhaps 3 months. Reason Why : To circulate them faster between players, instead of having them rot away inside peoples storage ( and yes they do in fact do that ) , or stand on a bot at too high prices Benefits : Everyone gets a chance to actually start finding these things again. If they have a life span of say 3 months, people are forced to use them or sell them at a reasonable price. This way they circulate more, and ultimately drop in price because they would be more readily available again. Feel free to poke holes

thanks Radu the harv meds rock now

I think a few things about this , and here they are .......... A. My harv med has lasted over a week, its still going through silver ores, and flowers. I log in a few hours a night maybe. If I logged in for 8 hours a day, im sure my harv meds would break more often. B. I say you are missing the point of the new and improved harv med. You no longer stop when a mini event happens. TBH I can't believe anyone is daring to bitch about that. If we begin complaining about good changes to the game, I dont think a certain person will be motivated to make any more ............... C. I think Radu made a change to a medallion that previously under performed by about 95% of the cost. Now it is about convenience of harvesting. Plus you get any little bonus like xtra harv xp or gc. So Piper, while I think your posts are usually constructive and very well thought out I dont think this one is. Sorry, I dont want to sound like im kissing ass here but the recent change to the harv medallion is an outstandingly good change.

I think the ''hope'' behind the idea of expiring rare's is that the circulation would increase. By circulation , and this is speculation, got to love the 'ations - I mean even if the rares were turned into items more quickly, by either being manu'd or sold on to others in need , this would take them out of thier vegative state thus taking them out of the games overall count - and heres the hope part = more would enter the game through mixing ( in the case of essences ) and harvesting ( in the case of stones ), because the circulation is happening more quickly IF there was an expiration, the people allready holding strange amounts of these items would need to either turn them into a finished product ( and thus technically more enter game to even the numbers ) or sell them , and then they are on the open market again instead of sitting in storage. Once the items have left thier vegative state, the buzz word here, circulation !!!, begins.

in response to '' i need to hoard because im not sure if in 6 months i will be able to buy what I want'' thats the kind of problem a temporary life span on objects would sort out ! if you think past your own storage here , there would still be just as many of these things in game they would just circulate more often between players and not be sat for an example ( 90 something EFE in 1 persons storage makes it look like there are 90 something EFE floating around the game when in fact they are not ) people would be more inclined to sell one of these things if they got one ( if they didnt need it right away ) and therefore the prices would drop to because there would be more in circulation and less of this speculative bs about '' omg what if I cant find one well fk it im hoarding all mine then '' look outside of your own storage and from a gamers perspective the finite life span would be a good thing, im not sure how good it would be for the EL shop and RL $ purchases but then for the sake of a better flow of items in a game which in turn makes the game more attractive I dont think its abad thing

yeh similar thread Dog , didnt come up when I typed in Finite Life Span Enriched Essences , which is the crux of the suggestion but thanks for the link was an interesting read, definately think theres valid points to be made about the similar suggestions

Pking is not stealing. No , it isnt. The token idea sounds great, but perhaps a time limit on them to , maybe a few hours , so people cant walk off to sto and they end up rotting away un used and then turning up in some wierd data collection system as in game, but not actually in game

first of all , im not voting or voicing an opinion , im just asking a dumb question my char from main is about 92/98 a/d I think and that means I would be allowed to copy it to the PK server if this goes ahead ? I mean my question is dumb because im crap at deciphering formulas like ( x=y2 =<90 )

nice idea , will you put armor/weapon restrictions in there to ? just wondering ( i know you didnt stipulate this )

voted yes, I've played on and off for about 3 years and so seen alot of things come and go some for the better some not so much , but the character wipe should only come at a stage when the devs are happy not much else is going to change in the dynamics of the game and seeing as this isnt going to happen any time soon , I doubt a character wipe will do much more than get everyone to look for other things to do. I still agree its needed tho, just perhaps not yet

MASSIVE OVER REACTION !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111 1111111111111111 but really, take the freakin olive branch ( no pun intended you started the Branch topic after NMT ) the NMT cape will allways be destined to break at some point in the future of EL, the suggestions coming from Ent sound like he has taken some happy pills and is willing to make not only the NMT get BETTER as it degrades but then be repairable afterwards i mean seriously WTF ive never heard anything like it in my life and people are still saying stuff like ''OMFG ruin my game why dont you''

everything else in the game is breakable , even shop bought special items like Tiaras ....... so I think the NMT being breakable will happen eventually , needs to happen , therefore take this olive branch while it is here which other item in game gets better when it degrades ? **trying to think**

so then how the flying fk do you have ......... don't mess your own post up in the same post kk ? and anyway I was playing EL before hydro bars and nexus stones were even in the fucking game and the market was even better back then FYIUFN ( for your info you f***** noob ) OK Smart shit, you want to go fight the creatures or even PVP to get your a/d lvls ? Who makes the armors your wearing ? Hmm ? Who make the essences you burn ? Hmm ? Who makes the pots you drink ?? Hmm ?? YES fighting is a huge part of EL economy, but the bare bones of how to get high a/d lvls has no fucking connection whatsoever to PP buying. Jesus Christ. All those things would still carry on, people would still need FE to make bars, so on and so on ad infinitum If this game relies soley on hydro bars and nexus stones then tbh the game is beyond repair in its current form, fortunately me and a few other peopes can see farther than the next batch of hydro bars and nexus removal stones and see that the game did and can function well without a small percentage of players with an insatiable desire for PP buying. But really, we need to hear something from Ent about the hydro bar being the sole runner of the EL economy, if he comes here and says its true and that without hydro bars and PP buying EL would be fucked then I will sell you my character for 25 zimbabwa dollars

reduced lvl of PP buying isnt going to screw economy at all , there will still be great demand for all essences, armors , swords , potions as far as im aware, these things are the beef of the EL economy, not hydro bars, perhaps the people who believe these are the beef of the EL economy are the people who are scrambling day in day out to buy them to buy PP and those people will still probably scramble to buy them, in fact, if they have LESS of an effect on power in PK , these same people will likely try to buy more and more no? tp get that extra extra extra boost to thier char

one player on at a time per IP is perfect idea, allowing for family members of course. shame it got rejected by Radu awhile ago, it makes perfect sense to stop the GC farming.