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Blee, While your view is quite entertaining, and fun. I still think you'd be insane to not keep 130,000 FE's without having to work 3-4 weeks for it. Lord know's I'd *BE* evil rather than feel evil for poofing it. (only after making sure it was my enemy's bag; or somebody that I didn't mind becoming my enemy; but never keeping a freind's bag.) hehehe We're not crying (especially since we found the bag). If I didn't find our H-bag I'd have only cried over a nice and cold beer; not in a public forum. Through determination, I was able to discover the bag's new location. While keeping that much material in a bag is not well-advised, it's massive-size is the only reason the bag *was* recovered. It was impossible to conceal it's movement, or even it's 6 step short-relocation. Moving a bag of that size gets noticed by many people. This topic is only a public campaign against actions we don't like in our neighborhood. Actions by people claiming they are the best-of neighbors, and can be trusted by all. Neighbors who claim they are completely "Honorable, Trustful, Respectful, and Groovy." We disagree with our neighbor's policy, and want to be sure our VALUED-neighbors act accordingly, by locking their doors, now that we have discovered this gossip-worthy information. If LoGG was a WARing guild, stating publicly they "hunt fer yer-treasure, and screw ye all", we (-AR-) would have zero issue. I really like that there are guilds with THIS view. Some day, when I'm PK god (Muahaha); I may change my value system. But I will never fly my guild's friendly-flag, when I actually operate under the jolly-roger's principles. Arrrrr matey. Regards Edit stating that I'd never keep a friend's bag either; of which I consider Sylvester to be among.

BleedingSoul, You would REALLY let a H-bag with 130,000 FE (worth 468,000gc) go POOF? This pretty much discredits anything you've said in this thread as INSANE. I give LoGG way more credit, their stance on H-bags has always been plain to see. The ONLY problem I have with LoGG *is* their H-Bag policy. What did they expect to come of this policy in a social/community environment?? Sylvester probably would not have taken this bag, had he seen *ME* sitting on that bag (I would hope). We seem to get along well. The one thing I would have done different in Sylvester's and LoGG's shoes, upon accidentally finding a massive bag, is SIT on it until someone came to claim it. To verify if it belonged to a friend or foe; then make my decision on keeping it. (A bag with that much FE is worth sitting on for quite a while; and mixing more FE to keep busy, in the mean-time.) Socially, I do not agree with H-bag hunts at all; and when I start bags, I key the spot to verify it is unclaimed. Most actions against EL/Entropy/Developer rules are enforced by the software, thus their stance on H-Bags is OBVIOUS, and I agree with their stance fully. Yay for freedom! When it comes to existing in a community of other miners/mixers, your actions with H-bags determine your credibility and alignment; friend/foe. This thread is our community notification against H-bag hunting guilds. You have all been warned. So, until LoGG has changed their policy on H-Bag hunts; I fully agree with my guild's (-AR-) red-tag status, and this thread. This red-tag is great; it let's me know my bags are generally not safe around them. If their policy on H-bags is changed, obviously our guilds have nothing more to argue about. Others players will also be more inclined to trust and help LoGG members as well. To check LoGG's current bag-hunt policy, keep an eye on this URL: http://www.paradoxius.speedlinq.nl/page2.html Section: "Lost and Found"; I hope some sanity comes of this, since most guilds view H-bags and DBs as the same. And I'd like to know the guilds voting in this famous H-bag hunt Poll; so I can red-tag them too. Regards to all, (sorry I rarely read forums)

Closed. JUST sold with Buy-now, using Aeryn in Morcraven Marsh.

Final day to bid, or buy-now. Auction ends at 5:00pm forum time. Current bid 15,000gc (EvilJoe)

Voted No. After this _everybody_ would become anti-social. And there would be a great advantage to those with multiple computers or IRL funding for multiple monitors. It would also give a great incentive for people to attempt cheating with scripting; and I'd also think make it harder to detect this scripting activity.

Auctioning (1) Vitality Removal Stone Starting Bid: 15,000gc Buy-it Now Price: 36,500gc on Aeryn (a store bot located near Judith in Morcraven Marsh) - PM aeryn with LOC; for an exact location. Duration: 4 days (Ending: Friday June 8th at 5:00PM Forum Time) Delivery to winning bidder must be completed within 24 hours. Else item goes to next bidder; auction can be deemed invalid if bidder(s) do not claim items. Post bids as a reply into this topic.

I was thinking there should be conditions in which vials break/get lost, not just particular potions which retain them. If you are sitting on the grass simply making Essences, the idea is you aren't going to smash your vial after drinking; although if you are battling creatures/players you should probably loose the vial. For example: If you have been fighting within the past ~10 minutes, (or in a PK area entirely), or wearing armor, taking care to keep your vials doesn't make much sense. Another means of determining loss could be based on your Potioning level; the higher the POT level, the better you are at working with/keeping your vials. I like some of the ideas posted in a previous suggestion, especially a dexterity factor, though programming may not be easy in this case: http://www.eternal-lands.com/forum/index.p...90&hl=vials , and maybe potioning-level would make a better measure of if the vial is kept/lost. Washing in water essence doesn't make sense as it is cost/time-prohibitive; and I don't see many people using that versus manu-ing a vial. This may make the potioning trade more attractive; and more life-like. Thoughts?? I'm liking the idea of being able to manu vials (hope to acquire the carrot soon). -Ron

Votes should be qualified with a quiz before hand....

I agree with pyderz. I voted yes. Let's see what the new changes with cooldown are on this next update. I'm just barely in favor of KEEPING cooldown; mainly because of the production speed increases.

I too run Linux and would find Clip and Paste valuable for chat, and market uses. My clip and paste works in all other apps; just not the EL client. Seems to be the trend in this thread.