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Many of them don't. Even if they did, they would receive much more benefit from the perk than getting an a/d level per year from dailies.

Not a good idea. Just free PPs to really high level chars that are alredy overpowered enough.

It seems everyone and their dogs has NMT capes nowadays and their price has had pretty bad inflation. Since they aren't even breaking they just flow in and practically never go out except for rare occasion when they're BRODed etc. Soooo I was thinking about a quest where you'd use an NMT cape and get some kind of reward as a return. I'd suggest it to be a little lower break chance for first equipment slot. Whatever you wear on that slot, it degrades less easily. And maybe some kind of achi too for those who are interested about them. And no, I didn't get NMT drop lately so I'm not having any secret motives. Anyway if I did get extra NMT as a drop, I would just use it for the quest myself too. Personally I think this is much better option to keep NMT's in control instead of making them breakable again. I wonder if anyone actually broke one while they were breakable for a while? Opinion, ideas etc.? P.S. I would also be interested in hearing instance/invance/whatever tank's opinions about the aggro system atm. Would you rather prefer some kind of aggro spell or is the system you use atm good enough (some of already existing spells, plate off)? I'm having some kind of idea about aggro spell, but I'm not going to waste my time for suggesting it unless people are unhappy with the system we have now. Personally I think it's pretty ridiculous to play with your plate to get monster's aggro on you: "Hey look Mr. dragon, I just put my plate in my backbag, u no notice anyone else than me now!" If EL was real life, that might work when a woman was fighting a man and taking plate off, but I quess it would seem just weird if you did that with real life dragon.

36k gc for PK arrows.

Yetis drop them like crazy (compared to feroses and fl00ffies, still not amazingly high rate). Of course other possibility would be lower the drop rate from yetis, but I don't think it would make fighters happy. I'd rather see the drop rate increased a bit and have some new use to NMT's. I'm still at the point that yeti will take me about 47 restores to kill, along with many srs and disses, so... they won't be dropping them to me anytime soon. Fluffs and Feros are on my list of things to beat senseless on a regular basis, but as far as I can tell, Feros drop gc and Fluffs drop 2 kinds of potions. I did pull one rosto out of a week's work on Fluffs once... Maybe my day is just yet to come. Well I have to say a friend of mine got something like 3 NMTs from feroses, I don't remember the exact number but it was pretty high. I got 1 from feroses too with my ex-char. Back to yetis, guildie says he got 2 while doing dailies. Ofc it's yber luck, but still they drop them pretty often, even if you can't kill them At least they used to, I'm not sure if radu has lowered their drop rate.

The problem is they are only usable in PK. EL is going more and more to PvE way so it should have some pros for it too to make it usable. Imo it could still stay breakable but let's add something that makes it needfull in instances and invances just like rdholam. In training you would still rather use normal NMT since it's unbreakable. I just can't think of what that benefit might be in this case to not make it too overpowered.

Yetis drop them like crazy (compared to feroses and fl00ffies, still not amazingly high rate). Of course other possibility would be lower the drop rate from yetis, but I don't think it would make fighters happy. I'd rather see the drop rate increased a bit and have some new use to NMT's. Perhaps you are going about this the wrong way? Maybe suggesting how we can make the NMW cape become more of a "necessity" for people to have and the NMT will look after itself It would be pro if it was that way so tailorers (is that real Enlish since it sounds so stupid?) might actually get some real use for their skill too. I just can't practically think any way how to make more use to that cape. Feel free to make your own suggestion about it.

Ah this makes sense. I agree with this one, tho it would be nice if you could actually wear 2 daggers or dagger and some smaller sword at same time (let's say up to ti short).

Yetis drop them like crazy (compared to feroses and fl00ffies, still not amazingly high rate). Of course other possibility would be lower the drop rate from yetis, but I don't think it would make fighters happy. I'd rather see the drop rate increased a bit and have some new use to NMT's.

If those 10 players just leveled high enough they'd start needing an NMT Tho I think there would be many people who'd like to have one but are just too lazy to work for it. And yes, there are more pressing issues but I think those have been suggested already. Of course this suggestion doesn't have to be the first one to be considered.

No! Daggers are supposed to be 1 hand, always.

Ok, I understand. For fuck's sake, how many times do I have to say that I have only 1 NMT in sto! The char I'm playing at this moment is my 4th one and has only one NMT. Edit: Just to make it clear: I bought NMT to my first char when it was 50's-60's. Second char had NMT when I got him. Third char I bought it when I was about 70's-80's def iirc (def build). This char had one when I got him couple months ago. Happy? They are slowly flooding the market since people's storages are flooded by them. You can't say they are rare since I believe 80 % of actice players have already an NMT. Most of those capes on bots have been there since I started this thread. To Hussam's point: I agree mostly with you. NMT is important to more people now because of the lower lvl invances and instances etc. Still I think about 300-350k would be fine price for the cape so you should actually do something to gain it and fighters still get decent price from the yber rare drop. Secondly even if all the players between 40-80 a/d bought an NMT, the "problem" just moves to near future. Simply there's not enough players starting to play EL seriously. Also do you think radu made NMTs breakable just for fun back then? (this isn't pointed only to hussam) No, he wanted to get rid of some, too bad it just didn't work.

The best and rarest cape in game has to cost lot of gc. Earlier people used to buy them a lot even for 500-600k gc price and practically no one was complaining about the price. Imo the price shouldn't go lower than what it is now. I got my first NMT cape when I was 50-60's a/d. It required a lot of work, but I didn't complain. Just work for it. Inflation actually makes it easier to get the cape. Their price have gone down a lot from when they were at their highest and essences, harvestables etc. have bumbed to ridiculous prices eg. more profit. Just harv or mix something profitable, inflation isn't really a good argument here. They are rare drop but they surely aren't rare.

How many times do I have to say it, I would like to see NMT prices staying at the same level as they are at this moment! Learn to read, kthxbye. The problem is those capes aren't moving at all at this moment. I'm pretty sure guildie still has the same cape for sale that he got 2 months ago.

And that's practically the only way they are sold at this moment Luckily it seems there's a few new interested players starting the game, just help them as much as possible to keep them in game.

So we need to bring in more money to the game ang your best idea in doing that is to make stuff cost less? The only thing that will do is put more Rostos in the game, people who spend 100 usd on Rostos will still only spend 100 usd on Rostos but rather then but them as often as they do they will buy them less often because there will be less of a demand for them... How does this help? Well also notice people would be more willing to risk their rostos if they cost less, so it might increase their demand. Also if ND maps in PK would be removed, it might again raise the demand for rostos. Add the 5 $ per month by players that are willing to pay for membership, I think it would be pretty much a +/- 0 Situation for business and add loads of enjoyment for players. Lowering the prices isn't always the worst option available. Depends on how the price is being driven down. If the price is driven down by cheaper IRL money... price is still going to drop, just not as much as we like, and rosto becomes most profitable item to buy from shop to buy GC. And that means more people will buy rostos putting more ingame. So as far as I can tell, the end result you mentioned is negligible. Uhhh this is what I mean, I don't really get what you are trying to criticize in my post.

172 players / 227 bots online. I really think something should be done. I would REALLY REALLY redommend any bot owners stop their bots spamming channel 3 by this moment unless / if further procedures are taken. Nowadays it doesn't benefit your bots anyway so it's just as good to stop them from spamming.

Da fuq is this?

Which means that 11 players that does not own a NMT cloak can buy one I have 2 NMTs one to keep and one to be mixed into the NMWL cloak unless I somehow lose one. There's no 11 players that would need NMT at this moment and could buy one... And there's more coming ingame (edit: NMT's, not players).

It is if you have that restriction.

So we need to bring in more money to the game ang your best idea in doing that is to make stuff cost less? The only thing that will do is put more Rostos in the game, people who spend 100 usd on Rostos will still only spend 100 usd on Rostos but rather then but them as often as they do they will buy them less often because there will be less of a demand for them... How does this help? Well also notice people would be more willing to risk their rostos if they cost less, so it might increase their demand. Also if ND maps in PK would be removed, it might again raise the demand for rostos. Add the 5 $ per month by players that are willing to pay for membership, I think it would be pretty much a +/- 0 Situation for business and add loads of enjoyment for players. Lowering the prices isn't always the worst option available.

Let's remove bots!11 For real I'd like to see #ignore_bots being default. I unignored them just for test a while ago and it was a page of spam in a minute. If someone really wants to buy something from bots, they don't get it from all the spam at ch 3. Newbs might get confused of that since that kind of spam is typical at WoW and other MMO's when bots spam for gold market.

This only applies for under lvl 20 iirc. With dailies, that is passed too quickly for you to really learn everything you need to be safe. I Actually I think there's no strict level for "being a newb" in this scamming case. Luckily the easiest ways to scam newbies have been made impossible as I said before. I don't see it as a big problem for newbies at this moment.

That's true, but atm it seems it's not enough since there's not many new players leveling. Anyway there seems to be 11 NMT capes on bots for sale atm.

I still don't have extra NMT cape.