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  1. o0 6k for the batch? nonsense. 3k at most. count each flower at 1gc/each, cos that's what the NPC pays, and there's no need to pay 3x more for them. as for leonard fur, you can ask however much you want, because atm you're the only one buying them. if you want them really bad, ask 10k, you'll get them. but won't be able to sell many speed hax pots because the price is just too high. I believe max 700gc per pot sounds good, and people would buy it.

     

    and yes, I know what it means to get the ings for it. I have done it for 2 batches of speed hax pots, took me one day. + fails, which needed to be replaced, and some extra extracts.

     

    p.s. you can't ask people to pay you for the "time spent to level potions skill", that's total bollocks

     

     

    You find me someone who would harvest those flowers 1gc each when they can make more gc harvesting other items

    Just because 1gc is what the shop buy them for does not mean its their value so if i want someone to harvest them for me it would cost me probably 3gc each unless you are prepaird to do it for 1gc?

    And if so that would reduce the base cost to 2800gc + the price of a leonard fur say 5000 gc to make 1 batch

    That works out the base cost of 650gc per pot . Now work out say i make 2 out every 3 that would put the base cost up to 975gc each That is with me still putting in alot of mixing work and with out adding any profit.

     

    So with you harvesting for me its reduced to 975gc with no profit unless you are also willing to sell me leonard furs at a cheeper rate?

     

    And no im not expecting players to pay for the time i have put into lvling but like always people want everything they cant make themselves for nothing.

     

    DHT if you want to gather all the ings needed and sell to me at a good rate Using the 2 out of 3 formular i am happy to add 10% making fee to it.

     

    But if i have to go out there spend the time to gather and make these pots then im not prepaird to do it all and make a loss just because someone wants something for nothing.

     

    Handy


  2. Ok they make you go twice as fast but you need to carry food

     

    They way this works is once you drink the pot you can run 2x your speed but it you run out of food in the food bar the pot stops working. You use 1 food per step so as you run you need to keep clicking on your food so you dont run out. If you stand still you dont use food and bar only go's down by the normal speed. You can also change maps and it still works. You can even logg out and when you logg back in you still run about. Just keep that food bar topped up

     

    So who has idea's of what they can be used for?

     

    I can think of a good event Players running around a small map collecting things and bringing them back to a bag when all items have been collected they win. It would be funny seeing everyone running around.

     

    But what main uses would they have to the game?

     

    Handy


  3. 1 leonard fur makes 12 potions of speed hax. please reduce the price at least 10x, I might sell some furs to you then.

     

    DHT if i reduce the price by 10x that would make the pots cheeper than the price of the leonard fur alone. At 5000gc for a fur divide by 12 = 416

    I guess the main question is How much is a leonard fur worth

     

    Do you realise the work involved in making these potions

    First i have to work hard to get the levels to make them in the first place

     

    I need to harvest (these items take longer to harvest than normal flowers)

     

    Daffs 200

    Gypsum 30

    Wheat 400

    Valeriam 200

    mugwart 200

    ogre toes 200

    tree mushrooms 200

    white chanlerelle 200

     

    Feran horns 20

    Vials 15

     

    Then mix the ings into

     

    5Wheat - Daffodils - Feran Horn Extract

    5Wheat - Valerian - Mugwort Extract

     

    5White Chanterelle - Ogre Toes - Tree Mushroom Extract

     

    from this i get 1 mixture of power

     

    Then i need to make the speed hax

     

     

    24Air Essence

    12Empty Vial

    1Leonard fur

    1Mixture of Power

    Because you need such a high level to make these i get fails in the extracts and the Mixtures of Power and the Speed hax potions

     

     

    I will let you work out how long it would take to gather ings mix with out fails and produce the item

     

    At the moment its just a bit of fun for players to try and using the gc raised from that i might be able to buy most of the ings i need to make the extracts then i can drop the price.

     

    If players decide to use speed hax on this server i can then buy in the flowers at a good price making them worth harvesting and come up with a fair price of speed hax for the server.

     

    If i buy in the ings i worked it out as base cost of around 6000 gc + the price of a leonard fur say 5000 gc to make 1 batch

    That works out the base cost of 916gc per pot . Now work out say i make 2 out every 3 that would put the base cost up to 1370gc each That is with me still putting in alot of mixing work and with out adding any profit.

     

    Handy


  4. Odin now carrys Speed Hax Pots :

    I know they are expensive But you try getting the leonard furs. If Players start selling furs to Odin then i will reduce the price of them. Untill that time go buy one and have some fun.

     

    Manu and craft

    If you want large amounts of rings, swords, Training gear or other manu/craft items then let me know. If you supply the ings i will mix for free and garenty 100 % return.

    I can also mix for a fee if i supply the ings

     

    Potions

     

    Im still taking orders for manu,craft,summing,magic potions and will be selling potion of power and refined veg on odin soon

     

    Handy


  5. This is the same question again and i guess i have the same answers

     

    (1) If you want to find out what it will take to get players over here. Then you need to post on main server forum under general chat asking what would need to change to get players to join.

    (2) Feed back we already have got from mains players. The main points were char copying and cooldown to be put on srs's and rings

    (3) The main way to get more people playing here is to make it a free server

     

    But apart from that i dont have a clue. We have tried to promote this server ourselves now for nearly 2 years. Yeh we might get a few new players from time to time but then we will get a few more leave.

     

    So i guess it boils down to this

     

    (1) we dont have a high enough player base to attract more players

    (2) no one wants to pay to play an empty server

    (3) Most mains players dont want to spend the next year or 2 lvling another char

    (4) Pker's dont like no cool down on sr's and ring

     

    Ok so that is the neg parts time to find some positive ones because i have run out of ideas

     

    Handy


  6. I have seen and killed Lenny in bethel more times that any other map. Red moon comes second he always seems to visit there of a night also Ep

    Best thing to do is station alts in his favouret places well you go about your normal business.

    I have never had much luck hunting him on my own I just go semi afk in Bethel that way i can also get drops off desert chims anything below them dont attack me anymore. But its best if there is a few of you Hunting him and as he keeps going invisable and keeps dissing all the time

     

    Question does he have Camo perk or something or does he use invisability ???

     

     

    Handy


  7. As my gear would not break i decided to go yetis and artic chim killing.

    After killing loads of each i didnt get any drops so i thought i would go visit the Big Guy

    I killed 21 Giants in AA and i got 1 drop camoflauge cape :)

     

    I killed all these mobs just with my js and i had bad astro so use some boost pots

     

    I just wish the day had been at a better time as it was really late here in the uk and i needed to go to bed so only used 1 hour of a great day

     

    Wait for the next no grief day

     

    Handy


  8. yeah. how often does that happen? mos evenings there are 30 players online (including bots)

     

     

    All the time

    but at its peek you are right 30 players including Bots = 16 Alts not players, also take into account there are some people that are afk and most players have at least 1 alt some have several, I use up to 5 when im on. So break it down to most evenings there are 5-10 people playing

    with some afk.

    Next time you are one just say Hi in channel and see how many respond

     

    There are 5 Players Online:</FONT>

    Antio Backslasher dht Ironfist Rogue34

     

    There are 14 Bots Online:</FONT>

    Canned Donkeh Gossip Odin PkAnt_1 PkAnt_11 PkAnt_12 PkAnt_14 PkAnt_19 PkAnt_2 PkAnt_20 PkAnt_3 PkAnt_37 PkAnt_Queen

     

    Most users ever online was 90 on Sun Dec 30 20:42:06 2007


  9. dragon kills just with sword

     

    I cant kill the Red dragon easily in one go that is with out restocking or dissing from the combat and i have even killed black dragon in one go, But with bad astro i might need to restock once and to kill the ice dragon, I Have never killed it in one go i do need to visit the store and restock the one time so we either need harder mobs on this server or cool down on srs. That would make us team up and have more fun, at the moment there is no challenge.

     

    Handy


  10. some ways to limit abuse

     

    1: only 1 copy per char from main can be made (easy to monitor) and will save mulitple copies of the same char.

    2: Instead of up to 90 a/d chars between 60-90 a/d can be copied. Most a/d players dont wont be high end manuers/potter/ rangers/mages. (this is just and idea that will need to be worked on)

    3: limit other skill levels more work for radu

    4:only copy in batches ( say 30 players have to sign up for the idea like originaly when the server started 100 players have to sign up before radu started it) this way its easyier to monitor what and who is being copied also Ent would get $450 every batch at $15 each copy which would pay for some monitoring or even more $$ is copy price was higher.

    5: some rule against abusing this idea. ok again it takes time to monitor but players would soon inform on any abuser and then its just a case of checking logs i guess ( again abuse rules would need to be looked at )

     

    Any other ideas and yes these are just off the top of my head ideas

     

    all input welcome

     

    Handy


  11. Obsessed with Handyman :)

    Its much better to work in a team.

     

     

    Hey leave them alone its ok to be obsessed with me :)

     

    No seriously Chris this game is not about winning its about having fun enjoying the fight achieving the goals getting the adrenalin going.

    otherwise we would just buy loads of giant stones stand back healing them as they fight for us.

     

    On the other hand having someone geared up for defense that can tank is a good strategy

     

    Handy


  12. A list of so called active players might give us some idea of who would be able to do an instance and at what lvl

     

    Patriot/Talon18

    Bkc56

    Goot/Bromber

    Chris

    Requiem

    Petroc

    Rogue

    Cyprom

    Shadow

    Spike

    Theno1jackass

    Andi_ROX

    KoDdy

    Piggy

    ProHibited

    Rotation

    Yaser

    Area

    Dht

    DarkGuard

    Lewis carrol

    Handyman

     

     

    Prohibited as this is your thread why not start putting them into instance lvl's i can be in 80-100 and 100+ will a boost pot

    There might some still to add

     

    Handy


  13. First off, I didn't mean "fight 3 a/d-ers against 3 a/d-ers", I meant fight in teams: summoners, archers, a/d fighters, maybe even engineers for that matter. Does a football team have only attackers, huh? How do you suppose to guild projects be handled then if all teams are one skill professionals? "We all go as mules and hope at least one of us survives the trip to sto". Nice. Really.

     

    So forget about a PK server and have a team event server you need players to make the teams and that is the problem low player base on this server.

     

    I suppose me and Bkc could have logged on to our alts the other night and made a team because we were the only two online.

     

     

    Second, the server came out as expected, actually. Radu predicted it to be ~100 active players, but not all of them online at the same time of course,

     

    What radu said was he would not start the PK server until 100 players signed up for it

     

     

    Also, 1 second cooldown was exactly what the pk-server-player-wannabes wanted. Additionally, radu said character transferring/copying would never happen, and I hope this rule would be preserved.

     

    From the beginning it was said the server would evolve and some changes have made, some have even been reversed. We are still not there yet otherwise the server would alive with players.

     

    There are 2 problems we have at the moment:

    1) lack of new players (due to lack of advertising and promoting, even eye to eye talking with EL-playing friends about it)

    2) keeping the players in (due to lack of events, support, help, AND competition)

     

    no 1 loads of people know about the pk server, big question why don't they want to be here?

    no 2 what makes you think its the lack of events that makes them leave the Pk server? sooner or later they get bored or RL or another game comes along.

     

    All of this has been tried and tried you might get 1 or 2 join or borrow a mates old char for a while

     

    Talk to players on the main server and ask them why they don't come here or stay i did and one of the main points was no challenge to the pk side of it the other was were to lazy to train a char for a year or two to be able to compete here.

     

    That is why we came up with the copying idea and no cooldown idea

    Yeh we can carry on as we are but with more and more players reaching the 100 a/d cap pk is out of the window and we turn to learning other skills and the player base still stays no existent

     

     

    DHT if you can find anyone to help promote this server then go for it anything will help mean while we will come up with new ideas and ways to get this server busier

     

    Edit: Sorry just read this through and i didnt mean to sound harsh but the ideas you sugested we have tried serveral times even put our own $$ into it. If we want a busier server we need to listen to why people dont play or end up leaving here.

     

    Handy


  14. We know that just adding cool down to rings and srs's is now out of the question it cooldown on everything or nothing and i dont think that is even an option.

    It's possible we're all (us and Entropy) are too limited in our thinking about this. We asked if we could get cooldown on just some stuff and Entropy said: no, all or nothing. OK, so what if we had cooldown on everything, but changed the duration of the cooldown on food to something small (1 or 2 seconds). After all, shrooms are listed as having no cooldown, which may mean 1 second like everything on PK (Ref: CEL site).

     

    So Entropy could enable cooldown on everything and change the duration on fruits/veggies to 1 second.

     

    That would take care of all the pots and rings, but still permit the mixing friendly environment.

     

     

    If that is possible would be great

     

    This server isnt far from being perfect but if can iron out these few things then more players would want to come here

     

    But we really need some Admin feed back in here

    Asgnny reads through these forum and we are greatfull for his wisdom. You have played this game from day 1 you know all about pking and what makes it exciting feel free to post any thoughts.

     

    Handy


  15. I'd be interested to see the results of a poll on the main forum asking..

     

    Would you be motivated to start a new character on pk server if it had ALL the cooldowns of main server?

     

    Yes

    No

     

     

    Problem is i dont think this server would want cooldown on food as its one of the great things about this place.

     

    Thats why i proposed cooldown just on srs's and rings it would get interest from main and still keep us different

     

    Chris this thread is not about you pls keep on Topic

    make you own If, What, Maybe thread but pls keep this one on topic

     

    Handy


  16. Sorry for the off topic

     

     

    i almost got you when u dropped MI, was one harm away from killing you :<

     

    And u have to admit, i would have won, if either you didnt have mirror/eva/tinf/igitd, or i had those as well

     

     

    Chris have you gone completely mad or what????

     

    i would have won, if either you didn't have mirror/eva/tinf/igitd, or i had those as well

    The answer is yes if you live in a dream world

     

    But if you had them instead of the 26 pp's they cost then no because your set up would be different, its like saying i would have won if the cap on my char was 200 a/d and i had reached it

     

    I think you are getting confused if you had all them perks then you would be 26 pp's less off your currant build

     

    Just for you info i don't have all of those perks anyway and also i have not taken all the neg perks i still use scotty and have never taken Hellspawn and in fact have spare pp's still to be used.

     

    But would like say after not playing for nearly a year its nice to fight someone that can give me a run for my money

     

     

    Handy


  17. I can understand no cool down on food is great and does not cost as much as it does on main, over here we have no need for feast pots. we lvl craft manu e.c.t just with friut and to me that is one of the good points to this server, great if you are a hard core mixer.

     

    But with no cooldown on srs's and rings Pk just wont work at our lvl's. Someone metioned about makin sr's no stackable but then you will still have the 2 ring option (click dis then tele ring) to excape getting pked because no cool down on rings.

     

    This server was always about trial and era and we knew things would have to change as the server progested to get it right in the end.

     

    This forum has played a good part it the transitions that have occured on this server. We have had alot of ideas and intresting discussions on here but we still need to find a way to get the interest from the main server if we ever want to increase the player base on here. And yes not every one will like the suggested changes but where do we go from here.

     

    We know a free server is out of the question.

    we know the copying option is on the table but not sure What Ent is prepaired to do with it, or if as it stands if would even increase the player base.

    We know that just adding cool down to rings and srs's is now out of the question it cooldown on everything or nothing and i dont think that is even an option.

    We have tried running events on main giving away free char's that we have even paid for ourselves.

     

    To be honest with you i dont have a clue what to try next Cooldown just on srs's and rings would interest players on main along with the copying option.

     

    Maybe what we need is a thread on main forum titled what would need to change on the pk server to get players from main interested in joining then see what idea's they come up with

     

     

    Handy


  18. Ok when i asked for sugestions i was talking about Pking not harvester or alt killing

     

    Chris, prohibited, DHt if you all group together and attack me it wont make any difference my setup is for multi attacks like i said i can handle 6 yetis attacking me. The only skill that might help is a powerfull ranger one that can hit at least 150 hp otherwise forget it. I will just keep wearing red clocks and using MI

     

    And whats the point of not attacking capped players stupid suggestion come you im still waiting for your Tac tics on how to pk someone on the pk server.

    All i am hearing is what to do instead of pking on the pk server. I would rather join forcess to attack high end mobs rather than sacrifice pking.

     

    just rember all i have to do if anyone does find a way to put me under pressure is click a dis ring followed by a tele ring and im out of there still no pk because off no cool down on rings.

     

    Handy


  19. today me and handy fought each other, and it shows, cooldown needs to be put on rings and potions. it is not about strategy, its all about who can hold more srs/he. i spammed u with bears, and getting mana burned means nothing, cus u can just drinka few more potions. WE NEED COLLDOWN ON RINGS AND POTIONS

     

     

    This is true fighting a load of bears as well as chris meant nothing i let the take away my mana and then quickly hit 2 srs one after another then restored

    during the fight Chris even came along with an alt dropped a bag and then jumped on to it to restock. good idea i never thought of that but this means that only Tac tic that works on the pk server is to use and alt to restock during the fight. When i got down to 3 srs i dropped 4 bear stones dissed and moved to a safe area. we were fighting what seemed to be over Half an hour i don't know if anyone got the real time.

     

    My char is set up for multi attacks and with no cool down on srs's i can handle 5-6 or even more yetis at a time. as long as i keep my mi on at all times i don't see how anyone can pk me in a fight.

     

    Chris did kill my Char at the store after when i went afk he said is was exploiting a bug. Apparently if you set a load of mines near someone then jump on them yourself in activating them you also kill players around you with the one perk.

     

     

    So to sum this up if you fight wearing a red cloak and use mi i cant see anyway of killing a player in PK on this server no matter what stones you have or if its multi attacks

     

    So all you that keep saying the pk server has different tac tics now is you time to share How do you propose to pk a top player on the pk server who is wearing a red cloak and using mi?

    On main i remember how we would have another players next to the fight so as the person you were fighting dissed the other player attacked them then they had to fight and wait till the cool down came back to use another ring this worked well to kill high end players but we dont have cool down on rings so its useless over here,

     

     

    Handy

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