SharkBite

No the chatlog goes back to last major update... and you can make a copy of the file so in theory you can have all the chatlog since you started playing. You just go to the EL folder and look at the file chat_log.txt You can even open it while still playing... if your txt program says you cannot because it is in use..try opening it with notepad

Yes that is a definite rule breach... If you put a report in abuse forum ..and provide a log to the mods he will get what he deserves... He was hanging around ogre spawns today stood right next to me for 3 ogres before he realised I was not going to die in a hurry... He was also at other spawns on different maps doing same thing. (According to guildmates in GM). I hope I see him in the arena... I wont be able to get in there fast enuff..

So you are saying that if you drop your wallet on the street it is no longer yours? And if you accidently click a bear in ws diamond mine.. do you consider it to be throwing away your DB? Well in my opinion if you 'find' a bag..and you can determine who lost it and then you still consider that to be an unowned bag..that is stealing (unless the person does not want it back). But if you find a bag..and cannot find the original owner (like finding a moneyclip with $50 in it but no contact name or address) then THAT is a lucky find.. By making this post Spar I can only assume that if anyone sees you die and picks up your bag containing a plate (or whatever) and then pm's you to say they got it.... Then you would say..."Ahh my friend but what is lost to me is no longer mine.. what a lucky find you have made.." ?? If that is the case then would there be any point PMing you in the first place?

Well that seems like a 6yr old temper tantrum to me.. My comments were made in response to your post ..where you clearly stated that deathbags are up for grabs...I realise that you are not necessarily a career bagjumper...But what you said sounds like you condone the taking of deathbags.. Could you clarify to us what you consider to be bagjumping (and i dont mean a dictionary analysis) ? As for the other people that defended you.. I respect their opinions..And as I do not know you (Fox) and have not seen you posted in outlaws I can only assume that you have not been guilty of bagjumping..(not counting our very early days when we did not even know what a DB was). BUT that said.. simply from reading your posts even this one where you are attacking me.. You still think you are right about DB's and the rest of the community is wrong.. As for getting my facts wrong..well I only made comment on what you said..thats a fact. And if you could clarify how I actually twisted your words that would help.. If I missunderstood what you said..then ok.. just point out where I went astray.. Oh one last thing... I dont understand the comment "And sharkbite- shoving my foot in my mouth? make saure you know you're talking to a bagjumper before sprouting all that crap, alright? You dont have to be a bagjumper to shove your foot in your mouth..Maybe I should have used that other old saying... "It's better to be thought a fool..than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.."

LOL some people do have a nerve dont they... I would have told him to come and get it or lose it... with his attitude if he posted you in outlaws and you posted the chat log.. he would be shown up as the bad guy... Makes one wonder how he got the chain in the first place.....probably from somebody elses DB

I always considered PK maps as free for all... no rules ....Thats why I avoided them for much of my early playing days.. I you want to train by PvP then you take the risk on getting pked...just take cheap armour and minimal pots/ess or as others have said go to one of the deserted PK maps.. If you are constantly being attacked (probably because you have upset people) then stop yer moaning and go train on monsters... thats one reason that they are in the game...95% of my a/d has come from the monsters/animals provided..stop whinging because you want to get a/d up a bit faster by pvp. Part of the excitement in this game comes from the dangers of running through a pk map... Too many want to stroll around with their mm and be perfectly safe everywhere ... (Gotta luv Hulda and the arctic chimes... )

LOL .... I would like to congratulate Fox Lupine on her/his self admittance to being a bagjumper... If she/he does not consider stealing the stuff dropped by somebody killed by a monster/animal as bagjumping then I dont know what he thinks.. So if you accidently click a bear..and fox lupine is nearby..say goodbye to your stuff.. As for your line about finding a DB but being too busy to help.... I recon you would not be too busy to take what you want from the bag....The more you talk the furthur you shove that foot in your mouth.... Edit.. Maybe you should take the time (if you are not TOO busy that is)... to read some of the past posts in outlaws regarding bagjumpers...and see how the majority of the EL community reacts to them.. And it is still jumping/springing/whatever on a bag regardless if anybody is there to see it or not.

C,mon... Oasis are just a couple of pretentious prats.... And Wonderwall is just a blatant copy of the Beatles style.... (I do believe they said somewhere that they were bigger than the beatles).... pretentious prats And my Concern with that picture you posted bartsimpson..is that you have *CO* tagged green

Note the apology to the mods...not the people he scammed/monster healed or just wasted peoples time..(me) Well Deceneu that apology seems very unsincere to me...And Mud tends to stick...will take a lot more than a throwaway apology to wash it off...

I often see people still harvesting with hp at 19..and wearing a exc cape... I usually warn but sometimes they just ignor me...I hate having to babysit bags for people who take stupid risks...

Sheesh..I have read novels that are shorter than these posts..

Yeh that name rings a bell.. oldnight/sesima was warned for harassing dust... he used one alt when dust ignored the other.. so pretty well confirmed his alts.

I dont think we will be seeing Benhe or attackinggod again... He may get a new ip and return as somebody else..but I feel if he is discovered his problems will start again. Have a look... http://www.eternal-lands.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=23913

Here is an exchange that I had tonight ...as you will see it started with Deceneu accusing us of bagjumping him... While he is no freind of ours we do not resort to bagjumping tactics ...(he was healing cycs on our guildleader recently). But what the following exchange shows is that there is another person to avoid... I am not sure of General_garisns motives..but he seemed very keen for me to post this on outlaws..(he pmed me twice asking if I had done it yet and wanted me to sent him the link). So i will just post the log and let you make your own decisions.. (Log has been edited to remove unrelated guild chat..and other pm's) #Ig [Deceneu:[TM]] OI you will be known as bagjumping scum #Ig [Deceneu:[TM]] and ur now red on out enemy list #Ig [sharkbite->[TM]] whats the problem? #Ig [Deceneu:[TM]] well dont you just kno it [PM to Deceneu: whats going on?] #Ig [Alexa101->[TM]] Hi. [PM from Deceneu: i want my goods back] [PM to Deceneu: who took em?] [PM from Deceneu: i didnt see who but i seen the dao tag] [PM from Deceneu: and im furious] [PM to Deceneu: well we dont bagjump..] #Ig [Alexa101->[TM]] This is the guy that was healing cycs for one of ours, Sharky. [PM from Deceneu: Is that so?] [PM to Deceneu: where was it] [PM from Deceneu: votd] [PM to Deceneu: where exactly?] [PM from Deceneu: i died in a cave fighting with gobline] [PM from Deceneu: im furious] [PM to Deceneu: so who was it? just saying it was a dao member is not proof enuff.. we have 180 members some active a lot not] [PM from Deceneu: Ask say was anybody just in votd cave?] I did ask in GM but those that were on had not been to votd...it could have been a member that was playing silently. [PM to Deceneu: so did you see the dao actually on your bag??] [PM to Deceneu: cause votd cave is a busy spot... and a haven for bagjumpers... also there are hardly any Dao members on at moment] [PM from Deceneu: nope the only peopel were me a dao guy and General_Graisn pm him] [PM to general_garisn: hello] [PM from general_garisn: hi] [PM to general_garisn: are you in dao?] [PM from general_garisn: yeah] [PM to general_garisn: and were you just in votd cave?] [PM from general_garisn: no] [PM from general_garisn: I was killing TM] [PM to general_garisn: what?] [PM from general_garisn: I was just hunting down some tm people] [PM to general_garisn: ok so you took Deceneu's DB then?] [PM from general_garisn: sure did] [PM from general_garisn: I killed him ] [PM to general_garisn: we do not bagjump] [PM from general_garisn: Yes we do!] [PM to general_garisn: how did you kill him?] [PM from general_garisn: with a stroke of my sword] [PM to general_garisn: and who told you that we bagjump?] [PM from general_garisn: hmm a goblin killed him and i took his bag] [PM from general_garisn: it was jolly] [PM from general_garisn: I'll give the crap back] [PM to general_garisn: when did you join dao?] [PM from general_garisn: I never did] [PM to general_garisn: i know... and you never will] [PM from general_garisn: and I dont want to] [PM to Deceneu: what is that crap? general_garisn is not a member of dao] [PM to Deceneu: unless you can provide more proof to me that a Dao member took your DB then dont waste my time..that guy you told me to pm was a jerk..] [PM from Deceneu: i told u to pm him coz he was wittness of the bagjump incident] [PM to Deceneu: well he lied to me and said he was in dao..he then said he was hunting TM members..I think you have found your bagjumper my friend] he's not my friend... was just an expression [PM to Deceneu: general_garisn told me he would give the crap back..pm him] [PM to general_garisn: Deceneu told me that you saw a Dao member get the bag..is this true?] [PM from general_garisn: I dont know anything about this incident] [PM to general_garisn: oh really.. from what you said earlier that seems to be another lie] [PM from general_garisn: what i said earlier was a little joke, because I had no idea what you were talking about] [PM from general_garisn: But Id bet than dec's making it up] [PM from general_garisn: he's a got a bad reputation] [PM to general_garisn: so I asked if you were in Dao..you said yes...then before i mentioned anything you said you were hunting TM ] [PM from general_garisn: I was confused ok? I dont know what all this is about so please stop interrogating] [PM to general_garisn: if you knew nothing about this..how did you know it was a TM member i was referring to?] [PM from general_garisn: because I know that dec is TM] [PM from general_garisn: satisfied?] No i'm not [PM to general_garisn: well you are just a liar and a troublemaker] [PM from general_garisn: finally and end to this conversation ] [PM to general_garisn: you said that before i even mentioned dec] 4 lines up. [PM from general_garisn: I dont really care ] [PM to general_garisn: fine..i will post the log on outlaws] [PM from general_garisn: you do that] [PM to general_garisn: ok will do] I tried to contact Deceneu after this (mainly to see if he was just jerking us around... he never responded when I pointed out general_garisn's admission) but he had logged off.. After seeing the other post RE: Deceneu he has a nerve to complain about having his fights healed... My main problem with general_garisn was that he was jerking me around.... (saying he was in Dao..then telling blatant lies).. If he had a problem with TM then he should have said so and not waste my time by saying he was in Dao...

Aww shucks Alexa... we do try and keep the peace... but I must admit that i do spend a little more time playing than problem solving.....Although I fear it may be the other way round for Wolfmom ..so i pass my thanks on to her..

It has just been brought to my attention that both Deceneu AND general_garisn were healing one of our members Cycs... So it seems that whole exchange was just an attempted setup... I dont think any Dao member was near him in votd... and to use his 'healing' mate as a witness....well... Considering that he was so sure it was dao.. and he saw general_garisn's name (but not the Dao member)..I think deceneu was just fishing for a response..and maybe to falsly accuse any Dao member who was anywhere near the cave.

Well you learned a lesson there... dont leave valuables to try a lucky dip for other valuables as for aragorn1 seems he is back to his old ways.... http://www.eternal-lands.com/forum/index.p...337&hl=aragorn1

Xbox wipes the floor with playstation2... better graphics..huge storage. Surerior dvd play . I always wondered why the store displays for Xbox and ps2 were never next to each other.... Until i saw them side by side with same demo on.... I am no fan of microsoft either..but I know a good product when i see it... Who cares if it was a rushed out product..its still better.. (clone?? erm i think they have different specs and hardware). I apologise for posting this here.(I dont consider Xbox OR playstation as outlaws ). And i will not continue the discussion here.. (feel free to delete the post if inappropriate).

Oh dont apologise for being there...if I had of seen em i would have called whole guild to come and heal ogre then take all their bags.... They have forfeited their right to being treated honorably... I say do whatever you can to make them regret their choices.. Consider it a challenge to get their stuff...

But even honest people can play that game now as well..just find an LcS member that is training..and heal to your hearts content

Sheesh what happened over there ?? did one of Frances nukes roll off the back of a truck? France has gone broke..hasnt paid its phone bill...!!!

Hey..whats all these new tv shows?? What happened to seinfeld?? and Frasier??

In other words..the router is rooted

Yes look at the general chat topic..you are not alone...

Heh heh... I would personally escort him to arena....