Infamous
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then dont go on forums and read my posts if all you do is cry about it
last week i did instances, invasion, helped some friends kill dragons for their quest, bought 30 AP pots, leveled ranging a bit ^^
i have 0 understanding? that's a big lol, countless others say its because of greed aswell and Learner is trying to do something about it, as do others.
get more then 0 braincells, then try to argue with me
if i could, i would include a napkin for you in this post cause all you do is whine/cry about others coming up with something against your greed
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or, price went up cause of greed, players know those rosto's are needed so they overcharge
there are 8 on a bot atm and learner has 50 or more
theres plenty of them in game ( high offer)
gee you got such amazing arguements aswell, do some research first
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i read it, did you?
This is bullshit. It has very little to do with the gold farming. The gold farming rate was the same for at least 1 year, and the rosto price was about 25 for quite a bit. The reason the cost increased is that people buy them, that's all.meaning the reason the price went up is cause people need them and buy those rosto's
but no worries, i know you do not understand simple words Lorck
edit: btw thanks for reminding me that i am Infamous ^^
and You are Lorck btw
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i see rosto's being sold for ~45k, i really hope that what learner did will lower prices instead of driving prices up and staying that way...
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and luring noobs is illegal, ban pls
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he's not infamous, i am :<
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will you be our shephard Starcy? <3
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Personally I've always liked the auction house type systems available in many MMORPG's but in the case of Eternal Lands, putting something like this in place would be a Very drastic change to the game, both in programming cost and the way the game is played. I think the market system the way it is now, is part of what makes EL, EL. It requires players to think for themselves and for those that take the time to study the market, and follow it's changes, you can actually find a decent niche of what people will always need, and sell for the same price over many years and still make the same amount of profit every time. Selling HE's for 7g, 5 years ago you could make a profit every time, today you can still sell HE's for 7g every time and still make a profit. How many other systems can boast that?you'd think that but you'd be wrong, people do /rraisa buy item and get prices from there, or if you ask on channel 3 for a PC you dont get much answer sometimes
an auction house system is nice though, could work like storage window, pick the category you need from there like weapons and see all weapons for sale
you want to sell something, look up your item and see how much others are selling it for and then decide if you want to go higher or lower then that
it could be linked to an NPC to which the bought items go to for you to pick up, same goes for GC from sales.
the auction house could have a minor fee to pay for putting stuff on it, low fee for low lvl items, higher fee for high lvl items (removes a bit of gc from the game)
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If people expect $->GC rates for their goods that's their decision. Radu made it harder for people to farm, look what happened. GC:$ rates went up from 4k-5k->1$ to 8k->1$. It's a lost cause.If you don't stop posting bullshit like this, you will take a vacation from the forums.
I do find it wierd how people just seem to be sort of conceding that a group of players who must be in a minority ( the gc sellers ) can change the price of a rosto in game simply because they decide 1$ is worth 8kgc.This is bullshit. It has very little to do with the gold farming. The gold farming rate was the same for at least 1 year, and the rosto price was about 25 for quite a bit. The reason the cost increased is that people buy them, that's all.
It can at least start to be solved by making gold selling illegal, imho. I guess we already discussed it in detail, not that i care much anymore.Stop trying to "solve" what can't be solved.The rest of your comment was ridiculous, ofc, like "with less gc entering game more people sell gc and the rates went up"...
and your post isnt rediculous after Entropy stated that it has very little to do with gold farming?
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oh? its required to have proof?
you were quick to ban my alt from your bots after someone joked in storage that my alt is a bagjumper, didnt need any proof at all
its been corrected though but its the thought that counts ^^
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OK, I had to read this later than usual or my morning coffee would have been all over the screen ROFL is all I can say.This whole thing started because people were bitching and complaining at rostos being over-priced and I believe the term almost unavailable was used at some point. You were not buying the rostos at 30k, you were either finding elsewhere or doing without, learner bought the items you said you would not buy because they were overprice - so he bought an item that most on 6 said they would refuse to pay that much for.
SO now he has those over-priced items and has increased the price in accordance to the channel 3 idiot fest that followed - people were asking up to 75k that I saw, he is undercutting them. You were refusing to buy them anyway so how on earth have you lost anything? other than around 6 hours of your life bitching about a situation that you were ALREADY bitching about in the first place.
Maybe I am not giving Learner's ebul genius status enough credit, but I honestly believe there is a lesson here - be careful what you bitch about - it can ALWAYS get worse
yes, so in a game where its supposed to be fun you shouldnt complain when messed up things happen, just let them walk all over you and smile cause it can get worse
funny how buying rosto's from shop is used as alternative suggestion though
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this year?they used to be 15k, then 20k, 25k, 30k, 35k and now the price is trying to be upped to 50k
This year they were 20-25k, and their current price is 30-33k. Where the fuck did you come up with those prices??
The 50k is what I'm currently offering them at.Yeah, but you are not the only rightful holder of rostos. If I sell mine at 2 billion gold coins, that doesn't mean the price is 2 billion gold coins, it means that's what I, one person, sell them at.
if you, as 1 person, hold all, or most of all the rosto's you can get price up, in this case up to 50k if he succeeds
his point doesnt even make sense, he thinks we shouldnt complain about price but all he does is harvest with a pickaxe, ofcourse he thinks the price of rosto's is right cause he neever uses them
increase the price of a pickaxe to 50k each at NPC and it will be a different story
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this year?
they used to be 15k, then 20k, 25k, 30k, 35k and now the price is trying to be upped to 50k
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The economy in this game is seriously flawed. There is no cap to what prices can reach. Just because certain players can afford 50k rostogols, doesn't mean everyone can. It's the same with all overprices items. At this rate, a rostogol will eventually cost more than a Col. EL is a great game. why ruin it?Something has to be done NOW to get prices down to what they were last year. Players should stop the greed and fix the game.
Well, you can, of course, buy from the shop, or not use rostos, or buy from Learner at 50k, or wait for others to buy rostos and sell for less, or you can play some other game with a better economy, such as Runescape, where prices are always stable and hats do not cost millions. Wow, what a long phrase.
El is the only online game I have played so I can't compare with runescape or any other online game. All I'm asking for is a cap on prices. If a rostogol is worth 50k, it should stay 50k and not double in price in less than year.
actually price went up 3 to 4x of what it used to be in less then a (half?) year
anyway if the point is that overpricing by bots is bad, or complaining about high prices is bad, why encourage it?
sell those rosto's for 15k if you dare, that will make a point too and make people happy
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nice job, thanks alot :>
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Yea power to the people in a game where common sense is irrelevant. Nothing drastic will ever be changed, $ needs to be made which currently is and always will be the main focus of this game.^ true dat
just now, and invasion in bethel with tons of bears/white tigers/hawks and DC/FC and MC..
thats a 99% certain death, lets just stop invasions if they go like this and just ask $ from players instead
or $5 required to log in, you get 10mins session time
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ingame name is Infamous
should say my name on it, and guildname Godz if possible
i'd like the guy in this picture on it - http://fc09.deviantart.net/fs43/f/2009/082...Flamewalker.jpg
or
http://www.videogamesblogger.com/wp-conten...eenshot-big.jpg
whichever one you can make the best siggy with ^^
preferred color blue, light blue or anything that looks good with it
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even if gold selling is involved upping the price is just giving them more power, average joe needs more Gc to purchase things so he will resort to buying gc
its just in the best interest for all keeping price steady instead of one day pay 15k for something and the same day u have to sell your soul on e-bay to buy some Gc from goldsellers to pay 900k for something that costed 15k when u had breakfast
Torr, get some sense
its not an MMORPG if we all go all-rounder, then it would be a FAIDWIWATRCDDIWBAADA (Fk All I Do Whatever I Want And The Rest Can Drop Dead I Was Born Alone And Die Alone) kinda game
and i have a manu alt
how about you get off your lazy ass, stop being greedy and get off that bandwagon?
or will we all go along with the ever increasing prices and every now and then say "bad Gc sales, bad bad" instead of doing something about it, high prices just make Gc more needed for someone to get what he wants, making him more likely to buy Gc
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why havent u made mine yet? :<
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Just bitching and bitching, always are mixers bad guys. Why are rare stones expansive? There is low rate to get stone, and enriched ess (to mix efe is around 5k+ fe). Well Radu could raise rate, but he wont. Why? There is too much gc in game.Holar is bad for buying all stones and selling products for higher price. Of course, advanced swords were 20k, but since serps and bindings have go way up it's logical prices of swords would go up. It's bit sad, but it would be good if prices would go above NPC prices, than players would buy form NPC and gc would go from game.
This is one thing that manuers do and all fighters are complaining. But what about them? Since they dont have 1.5k emu they raise silver price to 2.5 gc, hello, other players could only dream about that emu and were still selling at 2 gc. Same thing with RDHOLAM, price was 150k and now they have deal and sell it for 200k cause they are greedy. But they go to instances, fight monsters, so it can pass, they do their job.
Since last week was thinking, He's on market are now 8-8.5 gc, if we raise it to 9 gc it would be NPC price, but there are fighters who are mostly antisocial, we could sell them for even more than 9 gc, lets say 15 gc
. But price is still same for everyone, same thing can be done with SR's and other essences.Now to mix 1 HE, you need 2 silver ore (5gc), 1 chrysanteum (0.5 gc), FP (2 gc), thats 7.5 gc, but what about time to mix it, that dosen't worth nothing?
RDholm price was over 200k and went to like 120k, they cant be manu'd and alot of rosto's, some armors go lost obtaining one, price seems good and never goes higher just cause someone decides "hey, i have to pay 8.5gc for HE's now, lets calculate that in our RDholm prices" or "well, i have bid wars over nexus removals which cost me alot of gc, so lets charge more for this thing"
which is the case with some of these manuers, they advertise they will buy stones for alot more then others, then go on forums whining its not fair they get underpaid for items they themselves bought the ingreds for at higher prices
Tiger already posted a link to that, by the same guy and now prices went up again cause they continue to overbid
the price of gc on the blackmarket has been 1$-8k for a while now, even before this new rise of prices so that couldnt be a reason prices increased now
yeah, i have been buying so much pp, 1 and almost dont play anymore ;oForgive me if this question has an obvious answer but if you "almost dont play any more", why are you so bothered that you put up a thread about this issue? I'm also confused as to why you keep posting in the thread since you "almost dont play any more"
it got mentioned on channel 6, i said something about it and someone told me to make a topic
its a problem, and it will get out of hand so i just decided to make a topic to try and fix it, and argueing is fun
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last time i bought a halberd it was 45k, not long ago i check on Pepa and theres one for ~80k....
gold buyers are mostly the ones who just bought a new character with empty sto, or fighters who dont farm
dont see how that could increase bindings price
someone bought ~50 bindings from shop recently to sell them to players, did he buy from BM instead of Radu's shop?
no he didnt, cause you just cant buy bindings from BM
instead, he bought from shop and sold them to people willing to pay high prices and keep overbidding eachother
no BM involved in that
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thats right, he is just one of the couple, he just happens to be the most active/famous one
but one thing thats wrong though, he doesnt like to buy for less and sell for more, he likes to buy high so no1 else gets a chance to buy rare ingreds, and sell for more
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yeah, i have been buying so much pp, 1 and almost dont play anymore ;o
dont intend on buying any more either
the mob killer dont need stones, they do need armor/weapon, who makes those? Holar overpriced which he justifies by high rare stones costs he creates by outbidding everyone else
logical to see the price raising for those things.so logical, "oh someone uses my items, ill increase price" makes just as much sense as increasing silver prices to 100gc each cause someone uses them
Beol happy with paying 13k+ for rare stones, some have been selling for 20k, who the hell is ok with paying that to make something?
unless... beol is one of the outbidders aswell
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lol, spended 450k on AP pots in a day, lost a rostogol and HS med helping someone kill the dragon, did i charge him for it? nope
another dragon where i spend TS pots, MI essies and lots of fire arrows to bring it on low hp for someone else to come in and get the kill for quest, he did want me to get the scale though, but i donated it to a friends bot
not something someone greedy would do
the instances and invasion? just to pass the time, even lost a rosto in that 1 invasion, nothing greedy about that
nothing special about that though, there are countless others who do this and probably more, just proving your arguement wrong
*theres enough demand and offer, i didnt say the problem is that. read before you write, theres enough rosto's going around on bots and learner has 50+
i just said greed is the problem, others confirmed that by taking action
come back to argue when you learned to read, and can come up with some valid arguementations