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2 weeks before the great sever crash of 2004.

it is a good idea to have gold being replaced with monster drops, how about haveing rich monsters drop an occasional bag of 50gc, 100gc, 500gc or more every once in a while instead of haveing a book or item that isn't really rare. this would allow fighters to get an occasional prize while not takeing buisness away from manufacturers/crafters.

the drop rate can change, as a lot of people feel that the drop rate is too high and some fell like it is too low so it could possibly go each way. The developers are trying to make an effort on issues such as this that is why there is the players representative counsil. if you have suggestions on issues such as monster drop rates contact the apropriate representative.

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gods give the ability to temporarily increase skills in one area but how about the reverse happening for a period of time. for example you could have 10 levels take away temporarily so you could be 50/60 in one or all of your skills. this would allow people to still play but would drematically decrease thair skills forceing them to go back to fighting lower level creatures or produceing easyer items. This could be temporary lasting for a fiew hours or be more perminent lasting for a week or two. this could also be a negetive perk that would for example take away 2 of your levels in all skills untill you reset.

remember this is a temporary ban not a perminent one, just come back next week.

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it is a zip file commonly used on unix. you can use winzip, 7zip winrar or another archive manager. Windows Compilation Guide, HOWTO-Compile the Client from CVS as a guide on how to get it compiled.

READ THIS THREAD. Bots are basically modified clients they can ether be created by modifying the el source code or reverse engeneering the protacol and writeing network code from scratch. remember to: you do need quite a bit of knowlage of the environment you are programming in, my bot is written in java and should be resonably easy to program for but you do need some knowlage. most of the bots are based on elbot which is basically the el source code with all the graphics etc removed if you know how to compile the el source code i would start there.

how about haveing the opposite to blessings. all your skills are brought back to 0 temporarily and slowly creaping back to the normal levels one per minute or slower. this would provide a great dissadvantage for a period of time and would mean it would be impossible for people to be able to do anything for a fiew hours. this could also be combined with a temporary 1 day pkable so it would be a punishment as they do not have the usual strength to fight. Another possible idea would be to temporarily remove the effects of perks/cloaks for a period of time and possibly have a monster attraction so all creatures and animals will swarm towards whoever killed the unicorn for revenge.

it is verry simple, login and then bookmark the logged in page, this will save enough information to be able to autologin. if you just have the start page bookmarked it does not have the extra information to store your login details.

overall i like the prices but it could use some tweeks in the prices. i think it would be better to have a lower increase in prices but starting at a higer price so the difference between the cheapest and most expensive book is not as high. I think the Crystal Technology, and Processing is way too expensive, perhaps a big reduction in prices for the mineing would be better. why is saphire mineing way more expensiv than titanium? i recomend prices somewhere between the old prices and the new for this category with the books being priced around 1-4k instead of 6-10k. As crafting is already one of the hardest profesions to make a profit it should not require as big investment as it is already hard. you require 4 inorganic nexis to mine minerals then 3 artificial and 2 magic to make the top rings. Add on the prices for all the books it gets expensive, after all these costs you are left with a skill that produces verry little profit if any. Silver Mining is a bit over priced and should be a little easyer to get as it is the easyest mineral to get to and forms the basis createing helth essences, perhaps reduceing it to 1700gc would be a little better. Titanium mineing seems resonable as it opens up a good source of income but does seem out of place haveing a huge jump to it. fighting i think is a little too easy for the gains you get from reading them so how about moveing the prices for the lower books up: Combat Tactics 150, Goblin Fighting 250, Skeleton Fighting 500, Gargoyle Fighting 1000. Overall it all seems resonable but does need to be tweeked to be fairer, some of the top books are way too expensive, and the books have a too low starting price, so i would even the prices out a bit and make the jump between prices more liniar. perhaps make the prices of most books between 500-4000 with some special cases such as chimeran summoning and human fighting being really expensive like they are now and starting books being around 150=500.

would it be possible to have a http client in the game? createing or useing a http client library would allow some content to be delivered to players. one of the first advantages would be the ability to have ingame rules located on the server and pulled down when needed. it would also allow for new content such as stories and possibly news to be delivered to clients for example any news of game updates could pop up on screen. Something like this should not be too hard to implement and there are probly libraries out there already. if there are not you could write a simple one by following rfc1945 useing simple sockets.

seeing no one has directly come foward i will be temporary leader (but i don't want the job after it is started) if you have any idea's contact me and i will try and get things organized. i think the job does fit under the control of the manu rep to be the leader but we still need to get organized so i am takeing control while we form. contact me if you want to get involved and we will start to work through the issues. if possible we need a website or something as a place to organize, perhaps on el.net but that also needs some discussion. the price list IN THIS TOPIC also seem resonable but we do need some way of formally agreeing on what the prices should be and how we are going to get those prices.

the purpose of forming a union is to formally define what the recomended prices for items should be, one of the main questions asked on channel 3 is how much the items are worth. if we do form a union we can get together and agree on what the prices should be. atempting to regulate an open market does work if you get enough members. CD's actually cost less than 10c to create but why do you pay more?

ok if we are going to have a union we need a leader. i'll do it if anyone else doesn't want to but i would prefer if someone more interested would step forward. Once we have a group of members and atleast a temporary leader we can start to get organized. Post nominations for leader and intrests to join the union here.

That should give you a starting point and you can also pm the bot, look at the #guild_info for the bot aswell as pming people in that guild.

i would move the metal mineing books to a safer map i liked the ws library but a swap of npc's between nordcarn and narlik would be a good idea. As harvesting is one of the basis of a majority of the skills it should be reletively easy to start that is why i liked the location in the WS library as it is reletively safe but is riskey if you attempt to go there during the night. narlik would also be a resonable place for the mineing books as it is a safe map and closer to a mine than narlik.

what is the plan we have? why are we strikeing? what conditions do we want? what prices do we want and what can we do to get it? we need to start discussing what the normal market prices for items are aswell as what the price that we want. we need to do this so we have a vision of what we actually want so we have a goal to work toward that is achievable. then we can work out a plan of what can be done. we also need to discuss what is a resonable future price is and work towards establishing this new price as the standard. if we just say we want to strike it will get us nowhere but if we say why we are on strike and make a resonable argument on why we are going on strike, have a set of demands why we are going on strike and actually carry through with some action then we might actually make some changes.

part of the reson why we can't respond clearly is because we also must obey the rules and this includes rule 25. this rule means that the public is not alowed to talk about the moderation team but it also means the modetation team is not allowed to publically talk about modetation. Because of this we are therfore restricted to discuss some things in private. we are a good working group but unfortunately the only way you see that is when we have to use our powers when someone brakes the rules.

most manufactured items are made and sold at around the cost of the rare materials (asumeing fire essences are sold around 3gc) and that is the main problem. this is ignoreing failure rates so it actually turns out to be a loss. this has partially been fixed a little because of cheaper lether from the quest but the margins from manufacturing is really low. doing just about anything else would gain more profit. you could probly make more money makeing warm fur gloves fox scarves and fur cloaks than you will makeing anything of higher skill. especially if you sell the bones and meat.

you can have as many as your bandwith can handle. as long as you send a packet or atleast a heartbeat to maintain your connection. the main limitation is your processing power and memory of your compter not as much the bandwidth that you have. The protacol is reletively efficient.

The thing we need to do when createing a manufacturing union is work out how it is going to be managed. will everyone be allowed to join or will there be a minimum skill level (such as 15). how will we be organized? are we going to have a single leader or a board of directors. how will the prices be set? will we have votes? does everyone have the same weight or do leaders get more votes? is it just the leaders that set the prices? also what role does the community representative counsil play? should the manufacturing representative have control on the prices? it would be reletively easy to add a price list to deadface or any other bot to maintain the recomended prices. ie pm him 'price lether pants' and he would reply 90gc. it would be reletively easy to add commands to maintain the list of prices with access granted to the leaders of the union. it might also be a good idea to maintain a list of members of the union. A site could be setup to store this like eternal-lands.net or it might be possible to create a section in these forums for unions.

i agree with crannog, we could get together as a manufactureing guild and set prices. Remembering my history classes each skill would have a guild to specify the price and size and quality of items. For example the bakers guild would specify the price and weight of a bread roll and there would be consiquences if the rolls where not up to standard. This is where the term 'bakers dozen', meaning a dozen being a count of 13 not the regular 12 items. the diferent count originated when weight that a dozen bread rolls was set, if the weight of the 12 rolls where not upto standard an extra roll would be added to make shure it fitted the standard. So what we could do is form a 'guild' of manufacturing to help regulate the market price. This 'guild' would allow members of the guild to get together and specify a price for the game. All members would be bound to this standard price.

i would like to advertise my bot deadface Here is the output of the help command: [PM to deadface: help] [PM from deadface: My commands are:] [PM from deadface: joker - displays top 10 people to find the joker(that i've seen)] [PM from deadface: msg message = sends a message to dns, if you want me to add a feature do this.] [PM from deadface: info - info about my bot] [PM from deadface: seen [name] - shows seen stats, or when i last saw that person] [PM from deadface: guild [tag] - shows who i have seen from your or the specified guild] [PM from deadface: stats NAME - shows combat statistics for the player] [PM from deadface: skills NAME - shows all skills for thaty player] [PM from deadface: on [guild] - shows who i have seen from that guild or your own guild] [PM from deadface: online [list] - shows who is online in that list (default is moderators)] [PM from deadface: online list - display possible lists for the above command] [PM from deadface: fortune [list]- displays a random fortune from a random or the specified category] [PM from deadface: fortune liist - show a list of possible categories] [PM from deadface: friends - your friends online] [PM from deadface: friends add - add a friend to your list] [PM from deadface: friends del - remove a friend from your list] the main usefull features are stats which show players combat stats, skills the skills of the player, on (guild) which shows who is online in your guild or the specified guild, and online which sees who is online in that list (default moderators). if you can think up a list of players send them to me. the source code is GPL and can be found in cvs as part of the jelc project. if you want a feture added or have a comment don't be afraid to suggest it, you can also send me a message with the 'msg' command. Finally remember that i haven't yet got it running all day as the computer has a noisy fan and it is next to my bed so he is not always online.