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I agree with limits like : 1)40-59 2)60-89 At least a "normal player" this way will have a few chances to pwn someone full of negs. Unfortunately by dividing pker's to many categories wont work at all. The arena's will be more than the pker's.

Have fun and u must feel very lucky cause next to Romania(in Greece) the temperature was 45+C. I hope you are not using Rom-Telecom

Antisocial was a problem a long time ago. Antisocial is not a reason to reset anymore. You can buy anything from bots or with the help of your guildies.Yeti trainers dont need an npc at all. Hellspawn isnt a free source of pps but there is allready the hs medallion. Power hungry isnt a free source of pps but u can wear the ps cape. Godless was a negative perk but at 123 oa that i am now its not so negative..and yes its free pps. Personally with medalion or no medalion i wont take antisocial, at least not before 130 a/d. I wouldnt have any problem if antisocial was removed btw.

The idea is very good. Antisosial will help people to reach others that bought pps. Also illegal multi will be reduced a bit.

Pk was alive when most top fighters were between 85 -120 a/d. At those levels and when u are training on fluffies its easy to make an a/d level or an an oa. Usually after that a player is curious to see how strong he became so he will enter a pk map. If someone wants million of exp he will prefer to train. Training is the main reason that people dont pk. And when i am talking about training i am mostly talking for levels after 110 a/d. If we now look at pk maps the persons we ll see are mostly players between 90-110. All others keep training. Things are even worst now with nexuses buyers. Its good to slow down a bit players after 110 a/d but what is happening now to the game is too much. If players cant make exp they will keep training or they will keep trying to buy nexuses and nexuses removal stones. I dont think that a player will keep training when he see no progress. A long time ago the limits were around 110-120 def. All players that reached that level quit (or almost all of them). Now the new level of the game is around 140-150 def. If things remain the same i believe they will quit too.

lol, stop and think about it for a minute.If we have a 40 a/d arena, a 60 a/d arena and a 90 a/d arena, that are all in good locations, it will reduce the amount of "negged out DP arena alts" being used. If people can continue to train past 58 a/d and always have somewhere to fight, that they know they wont just get stomped by someone way stronger than them, there will be less DP alts. People will use their mains, because their mains wont just be getting stomped in PK anymore. Firstly, that would probably be a bad thing, people PK'ing there is good.Secondly, I disagree. It would mean people will have to turn to spell, medallion, armor and weapon choice strategy rather than rely on p/c. Heaps of people would still PK there. -------------------- exactly I dont have any problem with those areas.Those areas must exist. What i dont like to see is alts with negs. And when i am saying "none will pk there" i mean the people with negs. There must be limitations in those areas or the few people that are in mood for pk, will pk with their alts and not with their main chars. Those arenas are only for newbies and not for people to spoil their fun. If i lose a rosto or a tit plate its not a big loss. But for a newbie its too much and he may quit the game. Btw the pk maps and arenas are more than pker's.

I agree with Tempest that Naralik arena is a bad choice. Dp arena is something nice but unfortunately it ruined pk completely. High level players instead of fighting in other arenas they are entering dp arena with their alts, full of negs. I know that many will dissagree with me but a p/c limit or a negs limit MUST be in this arena. Otherwise strong people will keep pking with alts there and they wont enter to other arenas with their main char. Also newbies will stop entering there cause sooner or later they will understand that they cant fight an experienced player full of negs. IF DP ARENA HAD A P/C OR A NEG LIMIT NONE WOULD PK THERE.

The game provides: 1)arena's with pk limits. 2)An old pk style map. 3)Total war 4) Pk points When i was 60s i died from mufossa 5 times cause i wanted to score him a hit ..to see his def. I lost many many red capes fighting stronger people, i lost rostos and my armour was getting degraded. Recently i entered arenas and i fought Pain and Ambrosius although i know their p/c. I died from Luci also and i knew he had js of cooling but i didnt run like a chicken. I was "kill him at sight" in die! forums and Lorck was after me with his brod. I also killed many people with higher a/d than me. But now i know when to do restoration,when to harm,when and how to flee, the stats of many players,what weapon to use against player X, when to summon, when to mana drain etc. I also had a lot of fun, something very important. I am not the pr0 pker and i dont even like this word. But i was inside nc arena and outside there were 6 members of a guild and they didn't attack me. I am not Don Pedro, my p/c sucks. Attack me! Enjoy the game and if u die from someone its not the end of the world. If someone really wants to pk he will pk. And stop talking about a/d training cause there are times i get 370k per hour from fluffies but i am still entering pk areas. Finally lets all start fighting and and leave excuses.

I couldn't imagine that a dung harvester wants nmt breakable. To get back in topic we all agree that training a/d all the time is bad for the game and pk. We all agree that buying nexuses isnt bad and from the first moment i said that i like it. The only problem i have is that the situation with stones and nexuses is out of control. I am afraid that the philosophy of the game will change and negs wont be negs and all other attributes(except p/c) are becoming useless. If i had to choose between a/d leveling and nexus buying i would choose a/d. Thats what i am used to do for 1 year i am playing the game and i think its much more interesting using your brain and more fair.

the difference is i had an arguement with BUG exploitation (or as it was refered to design flaw) ...... which is in essence illegal.. youre arguement is with someone taking advantage of a legitimatly implemented item in game..therfore youre point is moot and mine hold weight...... furthermore asgnny and masterpiter are pro more then you understand ..they are also friends of mine...and i never said ANYthing to the contrary...... they reap the benefits of low pc that a neg ball cannot and vice versa ..so i think youre point that people who refrain from negs should benifit is also weightless cause they do have there rewards which infact are more long term, while those who take negs will face a reset and degraded strenght through time in closing i think you talk from youre ass and only look to stir the water....."thx for youre attention" Yeah they used the sendmail bug exploit rofl.You have no idea what is a bug and what is an exploit.The armed orcs were allready ingame they didnt came from mars.(although i dont agree with what they did) Actually when u were 130 a/d everything was cool. It seems from the moment u sold your char you became a bit nervous. Now that u are lazy to train u like buying nexuses from the npc. On the other hand u are trying to give me lessons about negative perks while u at the same time want negative perks removal stones. If i take godless at 150 a/d power hungry, scotty died and antisocial i will face a reset?lol You only look to stir the water not me. I used to respect you in the past when u were training btw.

deleted..no sense to argue... I don't know who exactly you are but if you are old mufossa you had serious arguments when people were training with armed orcs. I have serious arguments if the strongest is the nexus buyer. And i am sorry if i consider masterpiter and assgny as pr0 but thats my style...

You don't have to apologise for nexuses. Its your own right to do whatever you want. My main problem here is that months ago there was eternal a/d training. Now we have something additional. Eternal pps buying. This is even worst cause people are not thinking. They will just buy the stones and they will turn them into pps. No thoughts about will or reasoning or instict or even vitality.

Why can't you make HE all the time ?? I make ess and bars 16 hours/day now that I can't train mchims. To get gc for nexus for other skills. And the reason I don't pk more is no xp from training. And I want to save money for removal stones. So no levelling a/d, no pk. Maybe you can make he's for 16 hoursX5 days. 99% of others players wont. So u are admiting that saving nexuses and removal stones is even worst for pk than training for a/d leveling. I wonder how really pro's players like assgny and masterpitter feel now. They are close to 150 def and they see people full of negs who didnt train hard being stronger than them. The game should reward those players. @Tempest Maybe you ll pk them but others wont.Unfortunately a/d doesnt make you stronger. But additional p/c (that they are buying) does. Btw Luci is much stronger now than 1 month ago...

They will not pk, maybe people with HoS who don't have any choice, but most will harvest,alc and use their other skills. And when they are able to train again will they have HE, srs and armor for full time training. And people who only get gc from monsterdrops, what if they are out of money after 2 days pking ? They will need to stop playing untill they can get drops again. I think that will make them leave game. You can't make he's all the time and you can't pk all the time also. As it happens in non drop days everybody will pk. The non drops/no a/d exp period can be 4 days per month. 10 days was an example. Actually players will save money and they will prepare themselves for those special days so they wont be out of money. If we suppose that someone will be on line for 2 hours the first hour he will make money or he's and the rest he will pk. Actually people will quit if things remain the same. Who will pk luci and toomass now?

If ts pots with -30 a/d will be added people will get good exp again without having to add stronger monsters to the game. If in the last 7 or 10 days of every month people wont get any a/d exp and drops, they will start pking. The rest 20 days they can train, buy nexuses etc. Of course when i am saying "non drops week" i am talking about monster drops only. Players would have to carrie rosto's as usual. If we set limits to a/d people instead of a/d training they wont enter pk maps again and they will kill monsters all the time to buy pps. This way everyone will be happy. Lets not forget that el is famous for fluffies and its unique way of a/d leveling.

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Maybe this will sound ridicoulous .But if there was a special week (with no drops and no a/d/m exp) people would pk. For 23 days they would train like hell and for 1 week they would check how strong they became. After this week they could start training again (and buying new armour )

This is one of the reasons that people don't pk. Anyway imagine a game were 200 people with 150 a/d will be serping spawns to make money. And all those players will be able to become crafters,manuers,potioners etc. Also will,vitality,reasoning and instict will become completely useless. And why should a game reward a serper and not a smart player who is using his brain to get maximum exp and he is training hard?

El doesnt have millions of users. If people stop leveling up they will quit. It seems that the new feros-fluffy and chim trainers dont like to pk.(unfortunately). They enjoy more a/d leveling and training. A maximum level is good to exist.Lets say 150 a/d. But for a few months. After every client update people should train again to get more a/d. Its boring and probably stupid to slaugher yetis for the rest of your el life to buy pps.

I total agree here and the game will get better overall. With no real cap some players will level mindless forever making a huge gap between top 20, top 50 and top 200. In fact between top 10 and top 20 there is already a gap hard to cover. This is terrible for starters because they wont be able to compete ever. PK will increase with this measure, some people might play less cuz of it but imo is better to have 2000 players playing 2h then current 400 at 12h probably with more cash revenue for el creators which is important also. I think is good to be able to not play over a month after 2 or 3 years of hard leveling and each time the player return to the game still be in position of pk or to do whatever please him. Since its a soft cap and not an hard one is always possible to keep going BUT at low speed which sounds reasonable. Its nice to slowdown top players so that the gap wont be huge. But what exactly are you going to do when u ll reach 150 a/d?Buy pps only? I believe that 90% of those players will quit. Some of them quit allready. The difference between a noob and a pr0 is that the pr0 knows how to adjust his p/c.That makes the game interesting and we all trying to figure out the balance between maximum exp-drops-pk. We are using our brain. If we end up buying pps only, then the pr0 will be the faster yeti butcher. A player is having fun when he is making progress and he is expecting something new. Personally i am having fun when i am using my brain also. Taking godless and all negs and buying only pps is exactly the opposite.

I wouldn't like to see epic drops to the game too. I also do understand that its difficult for ent and the rest of the development team adding new monsters to the game all the time. I am allready happy with the last 2 updates. About the additional god quests i meant that they could be added after a year or so. I really like the fact that u can buy nexuses and pps. What i hate is to do only this and dont train at all.

I am playing both games wow and el. Wow had a maximul level u could reach. That was 60. Now the maximum is 70 and probably it will change again. But we all love el and we enjoy the way you get exp. I dont think that el is ready as a game to have maximum levels. This is happening in wow cause there are instances were a 70's player will die in no time. Many 70's have to enter instances together to kill a strong dragon. Also they have serious motives to keep playing the game cause in such instances there are good drops "epic gear" that will make them much stronger in pvp. And pvp will provide them pr0 weapons. By getting good armour in wow is like getting 100 physique cause armours provide stats like toughness,vitality etc. Also in wow there is plenty of pk action so a 70's players will keep playing. Unfortunately in el nowadays there isnt enough pk action. At the level of assgny its boring to train and get crappy exp. I think i know how he is feeling. If i had those levels i am not sure if i would keep playing the game. Maybe some additional god quests would help. Those quests could require expensive items like magic serps, nmt capes, arti capes etc. To be able to start a quest for mortos there should be some rules. To start a quest that will give u 5% more attacking exp the player should be 100 attack. At 110 annother quest etc. Same with the def god. Another quick solution could be ts pots with -30 a/d penalty or some night vision pots with a might penalty.

Another good update .Ty for the chim spawns too

I think that fluffies stats are changed. They have more accurasy now and probably more might. Its like you describing a fluffie with mirror skin perk. I noticed some similar things with fluffies too.

As long as a/d leveling exists people will train 12 hours per day. By making nmt breakable some players will stop training completely and quit the game as it happened when nmt was breakable.Some others reseted and took the perk and now they can train in spawns for ever with col and fr cape. A player with nmt perk was training with cape of the unbreakable.When i asked him why he told me " cause i look cool". Let all people from 50's-80's to level up fast or we all going to end up pking with alts in dp arena. You dont see people in pk arenas anymore cause most top fighters quit-sold chars and someothers are reseted. If all players from 50's-80's wont level up fast dont expect anything in pk maps. Also with nmt breakable manuers and crafters will sell items every 2 years...