Soldus

to all bag jumpers EL is a comunity, comunities tend to develop certain norms and values, and they even tend to enforce them after a while. so while you are formally legal when jumping bags, chances are you will end up having a bad name in the comunity so don't come bitching to me (or others who think along these lines) once you made it on the black list of a number of guilds and don't get any help or trading partners anymore...not to talk about PK-areas

shouldn't it be possible to find out which character caused the ban for his IP adress? i mean if it was a character that was only just created or was created from another adress, chances are he did nothing wrong afterall.....

Plat.. had a good idea.. dear god *faint!* ...and a stubborn bush supporter is able to identify it as such ??? ( ) indeed, this is a very good idea !

??? what now.... ??? i quote cicero in the pinned topic EL-Forums/Bans

i heard bots looted ppls bags...that true?

there was a rule once... - no summoning in high traffic areas not sure if it was ever written somewhere or announced by roja then...but i like it. everybody is able to understand it. and it should be enforced

does that mean there is no such client out there ? (hopefully )

wow this sux big time... Harvest runs ??? auto eat ??? i sure hope no1 is using this client !!!!!

leave poor ole swiss out of this !

activate rant mode... rant mode off , sorry to all others for the offtopic btw...this story is so dumb, it must be true...how about changing his pass before lifting the ban again...just to make sure and pm him the new pass thru forums ...it looks like his lil monster can't access his forums account at least

ohhh...i like that ! ent, why don't you charge money for resetting ? it's being abused anyways just a small amount so it doesn't hurt, but enough that ppl think about it...twice i'd say 5$ ... *puts on flame proof magic plate armor manu'd by frak again*

ok, great here we go ! you think it is a bad idea aswell ! ...- why didn't you say so in the first place ?

and you sure as hell have no idea what to say or you wouldn't keep coming up with pretty sounding new fishisms that have NOTHING to do with the game

well telgar ... like i said ... supporting ent does NOT mean just sit there and say yes to everything. not at all. and we have his promise to keep our stats when going p2p

you completely forget or ignore the competitive character of a lvl based rpg if you are mature enough to never look at others stats or enjoy reaching a (lvl-wise) goal you set for yourself - gratz others care for their lvls and don't want to compete with cheaters.

lol, i did but that just proves my point, this idea would ruin the complete project... even you say those ppl would leave in the end... but that doesn't help the game anymore when the builders and keepers of the comunity left already for this ... there would be no comunity left. and without that ppl just play rpgs ... you get nice collections for 9.95 and need no costly broadband traffic for them... go figure

no you don't. you don't help the creators at all by agreeing to an idea that might ruin the whole project. you very much remind me of the ppl who say "i am american , so i support my president" while exactly this president is ruining your country. loyalty does not mean to refrain from criticism. quite the opposite. you may not know, or may not care...but the ppl who oppose to this idea are the ppl who really care about this game...AND about their creators. and they should know about it when they are about to lose the subscribers of the (hopefully soon to come) P2P version.

AND , like i already said...ppl who WORK for their money enjoy working for their lvls. they would NOT cheat and just buy their way up. they just don't need that. the only ppl who would actually do that are low selfesteem rich parents kids. we don't need more of those here, and especially not ruling PK zones thanks to their cheated lvls. if someone worked for his lvls chances are he is integrated in the comunity..not so these guys

lol, i never thought i would agree with teh banned 0n3 on anything so wholeheartedly ...ever ! this is a good way to raise some funds for the creators, i would agree on almost anything if we could get around buyable stats ! and many ppl would like to look unique and i am sure most of them would consider a donation of RL money an adequate way to reach this go for it !!!

curor sorry, you have no idea what you're talking about no hardworking mature person will use this shortcut, they enjoy working for their stats, setting a goal and reach it. but spoiled brats, honorless immature braggers will, and now they will dominate the pk areas, cuz they DON'T have to work for their money ! - they get killed? well there are 10 $ more for the next 10 lvls ! ppl who actually WORK for their money will just turn their back on the game. cicero.... P2P with areas nonpayers cannot access, but on 1 server would have been the solution, and that poll showed that clearly. there would have been no disadvantage for honest ppl and powergamers would still beat everybody...but fair ! i am waiting for p2p for a long time, infact most of my guild are. i enjoy working for my stats tho, and won't pay for a lvlbased game where you can just use a shortcut thru money. btw...you guys are turning EL into a high security facility where everybody reports another for sitting on a bag, ban ppl for living in the same house and now make cheating part of the game ??? i just can't believe it

curor, i know you don't play the game anymore and just lurk on the forums, so you prolly don't care i cannot believe you don't see what this means for the game and the comunity OMG ent i can only hope you make up your mind !

i agree...this sounds like fun

hmmm...sounds much better already..but what if a very good guy (very high karma) who happens to be a guild leader protects his training newbie guildmates in a pk zone from looters and honorless pkers ..he should be awarded, not punished..regardless of the combat ability of the agressors (well ok, more + for tough opponents) ...and how would you calculate multi-pkers...who are all of no real expertise but attack in a great number? ohh...and how to make sure pvp training doesn't count against you ? would be cool if these issues could be solved...

wow...i tried to read thru every post...gee, why do some ppl not try to understand what others say ? frei has definitely a valid point here and that has nothing to do with him selling anything "too" cheap ingame. there must be way to get high lvl items out of the game again, not everybody will be sitting on a bag of tit longs until it poofs just to keep the prices up. npcs bying all manufacured (crafted, whatever) would indeed help the economy. there are ways to control inflation. i suggested this on the old old server already, why not have (and this is just an example) the blacksmiths buy and sell all manu'able items at dynamic prices... for example, 50 highlvl manu'ers selling tit longs -> buying price goes down to a set minimum , mebbe 2k gold (again, just an example) buying price would then be mebbe 3k. then 100 new fighters reach a lvl where they wanna have this weapon and the npcs sell more than they buy (or more than x% of what they buy) and the price goes up again. if the general gold amount rises too quickly check the logs and lower the minimum prices for the top sellers (could even be automated). if you want no millionaires make items bear a "made by name" flag and make npcs reject high lvl items of the same make after reaching a certain items/time ratio. this would also give ent a possibility to control the economy at a later time w/o having to piss ppl off by resetting... *puts enchanted tit chain "made by frak" on with magically enhanced flame protection*