Soldus

the economy is pretty good as it is ihmo. we need more income for manufacturers and crafters (not too much, but at least make them profit at all ) we need less income for PKers/high lvl fighters but most of all we need a money drain, as hundreds of ppl already stated how about rented houses ? (been said a zillion times before, i know )

That'd only have money pour into the economy, like it did before, because those titanium items are so easily aquired. And the reason people don't raise magic, is because it's costly, and lacks usefulness.. Sure, teleporting and the restoration spell can come in handy, but other than that.. we don't have too much money right now, but we do have very rich pkers and high lvl fighters, wealthy alchemists, and poor crafters/manufacturers...dunno about you, but i think as long as we have a gold based economy, manufacturers should be able to gain some wealth too...

the other way 'round i think. he suggests you can only make stuff once you reached the recommended lvl. but that is what we had on the old (old) server and economy there was wrecked up too...actually i don't think economy is so bad right now, we only need an NPC buying tit stuff and rings too, but at variable prices, with a certain minimum that can be set by the creators to influence the economy any way they want

Yes, you did. how about correcting him or just for once in your lifetime say nothing at all ? it's Language , satan

MUTEX lat. for "silencer that has been" age and origin are pretty much unknown. many Eternalogists believe he is the stepbrother of the Grue, definitely related to him tho. He is the only known force in the universe that can keep the grue under control. that's why the grue hates him and tries to trick him into a trap in an everlasting struggle to rule EL. has the grue succeeded you have 5 seconds to "release the mutex" ! should you fail, the grue gets you...sometimes so fast that there will be no notice ! you can log back in only if some1 else released the mutex again.

as i tried to ask in another thread that got spammed with obsolete complaints about the rollback... - is any1 working on the implementation of the leather thingy (reward for tanner quest) - can we get the being tp'd while harvesting removed, as pretty much everybody agreed it doesn't help the just cause but impair only honest players , and when ? - and as we're at it...what did the update do ? (plz don't start another spam/flame war here, i really wanna know the answers )

thanx Lyanna i think i have not expressed myself very well tho, i was talking about the implementing of buying leather at kelchara for ppl who have completed the (existing) tanner quest, this shouldn't have anything to do with rewriting the quest story...more a (imho simple) programming act. an annotation to the TPs...they are not suited to help our economy. they just provoke ppl to risk illegal multiplaying (bag sitters) and macroing (auto-walkback). they do exactly what roja wanted to avoid ---> make macroing MORE worthy. Roja, mebbe you wanna talk to wytter, i told him about an idea that might actually make macroing (as far as it concerns harvesting) less interesting/obsolete and Cicero it would be nice if you posted a small note about updates, even when it's "only" for bugfixes, that might reduce the complaining a lot anyways, it's great to see how much work you all put into our beloved game, it feels like a fresh spirit is at work, keep it up !

it's: #killme yes not #kill me yes

we don't need more xp for harvesting, that would just make it more interesting for macroers, while everything is being done to prevent exactly this. we do need to get rid of the teleporting events tho, as most ppl agreed upon. these events hurt not the macroers but the honest players. actually i am afraid even ppl will start looking for certain patches (eg. automated walking back to the spot you were) who did NOT think about cheating before.

you can delete your old character by typing #killme yes and confirming by typing it again. [edit: eeep there was some1 faster ... as always ]

what was the update good for ? did we finally get rid of tp'ing while harvesting ? ohhh, and when will the tanner sell leather ? - hopefully soon ? (i lost about a day btw )

can i bribe you to increase my luck ?

thank you Roja and thank you Moonie and Learner and Cicero

would it be harder to just remove the teleporting events and leave the rest of them ? i feel very sad that all of this is obviously not going the way you wanted it. i know many ppl have the greatest respect for you as a programmer and a human being. the fact that many ppl debate with you here, that they feel they can get thru to you just proves this in my eyes. i very much love your game, and i am very grateful you invested all that time and all those thoughts in it. i do think that beta is for testing tho, and that the ppl who play very much and know the game very well should speak out, and not play sucker-ups and cheer if they see something wrong. that does NOT mean you have to do what they say, but i think it is worth listening to. anyways...thank you very much for all your efforts, and i sincerely hope you will not leave, or at least come back soon.

Ouch! but let me ask you this... WHY do you make bars when you KNOW you have the risk of Teleporting? because he wants to make them ? because he needs them? because it's his profession in this game ? that's what i been trying to say all the time. the teleporting kills off whole professions. it can not stay. update...i got tele'd 7 times today already...in only 3 attempts to harvest the full cap !

well a simple look at your stats explains at once why you are so far off the right track a fighter training seriously uses several 100 HEs per training session. if you want a harvest cap, you force them to simply buy the HEs at the store. the money that's needed to do that is gainable only by badass-pking. which would lead to a wandering off of most of the ppl that carry this lil society, since they can't train anymore pvp and have fun in pk-areas (you prolly don't know that most ppl in EL believe in certain unwritten rules in pk-areas , not to attack ppl training for example.) you would otoh kill off the professions of harvesters and alchemists. -> thus removing the most important alternative to a fighters career -> making those either become "evil" or wander off aswell. of course other ppl would fill those places, but the comunity as we know and love it was doomed to die. as others have said already, harvesting is the fundament of EL. plz do NOT destroy it.

ohhh...can't wait to hear it ! (now i'll stop spamming this thread, plz don't be mad at me dear mods )

piper don't be snapped....look at the bright side, you won't die 4 times in a row anymore in the tit mines, and neither lose all your capes

Hmmmm I bet he will listen to her about as soon as you listen to me <_< whistles innocently and looks at the very interesting roof structure...

omg roja you are the best !!!!!!! that would be the perfect solution...you actually read all these posts !!! ent, plz listen to that wise woman at your side !

amen. plz remove the being teleported. it's more than a pita, but only for non-macroers! i don't have the time to walk back 3 times during 1 harvest while i'm at work

ok, my thoughts after trying it out - teleporting should be removed completely, it makes producing essences impossible. - axes can break, why not, everything else breaks also..but the chances have to be the same as for low lvl weapons, not like it happened to me 3 picks for 19 diamonds - the "no more tears" perk should affect pickaxes aswell, and i like the suggestion of better axes (less chances to break) very much too...they do have to be manufacturable tho. - the losing health event has to be relative to the players health, for me losing 50 hp is no problem at all, but harvesters/alchemists are no fighters, they tend to have less health - i don't mind some spice added to harvesting, but i think it will not help to keep ppl from macroing/afk-harvesting. Macroers will actually be less troubled by it than us honourable players. - last but not least, to those who think harvesting is too easy as it is...it isn't so. i enjoy harvesting a lot, it is perfect for my daily schedule which leaves me not much time for lengthy sessions, but let's me hop on for the occasional harvest every other hour or so but believe me it is a very time consuming task already, when you stick to the rules of course. and obviously it is not a macroers domain either, they can gain much more xp with every other skill, since harvesting is limited to ~ 6.5k xp/hour, at 20 will and diamonds. plz look at the momentary top 10, the only macroer is "ant_queen" among them i encourage you to check my logs or whatever you may need to verify the legitimity of my current lvl and for macroers i think you have now a very good instrument at hand by being able to check their last actions. No. Name Level 1 Soldus 72 2 Aislinn 68 3 EternalBanker 68 4 Ant_Queen 65 5 Infinity 65 6 tigger 64 7 Learner 64 8 Elf_Ranger 63 9 DonPedro 62 10 Puntif 62 so having said all that, i think a lil spicing up is a nice idea, but do not keep whole professions (harvesters, alchemists, manufacturers) from playing and enjoying this great game thanks for listening, sorry it got so longish and keep up the great work, we love your game and are seriously addicted aswell

wow, nice way to introduce yourself...welcome in EL (feel free to pm me ingame in case you need help )

OMG !!! i have that problem as long as i can remember couldn't we finally get a #list_members command ??? pleeeeeeeeeeeease [edit] ohhh and as long as you're at it...could you make it show the guild ranks, too plz ?

i understand you are somewhat annoyed, but your chances to get unbanned won't improve with posts like that