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I agree it is ent and roja's game. However their are several other gamer sites and they are read by quite a few people. I think since we obviously cannot post our opinions here maybe they should be posted elsewhere about El the moderation and devlopment. I am sure this post will be deleted. I still wonder about the false accusation I had to endure about macroing. I wonder if you other players have forgotten that. Because I think that is the whole reason for this little charade by Ent and now looks like Roja has joined the party. I wonder if this little pathetic use of their power is enough to make the players forget the acusations that were never backed up of illegeal client use (I did use an illegeal client) and of illegeal macroing (I did not macro).

i bet next it will be pm's in el u cant take as privvate geez it was (people blowing off steam to unfair accusatiotions) We were accused f using a client that gave s some zoom and some colors. God bless me it was not like we could kill at will It is amusing this was all said in gm and it got back to the mods/dev or even impls and they feel that it is worth the pig award instead of tiniking oh we have a problem our useers are unhappy with wht we did. We were talking about being accused of macroeing and we have had no proff that we did, and yes we were mad and mean imagine how u would feel

I said I was ashamed of some of my comments and that I would not insult mods/decs again in public or private.

OK I will try what all the other people who have been banned and the unbanned and allowed to play. I mean these words very sincierly: I apologize to any dev/mod I insulted and I promise I will not do it again in public or peivate channel. Please Un-ban me I will be a good El resident.

Too many chances when did i even have a chance to explain i was just banned. Have you ever seen my name banned or disciplined before?

Derin I dont post mine for 2 reasons 1) what would it peove I can delete or add anything to them I wanted to. 2) the conversation was between #gm and not for the public this forum is public. So I guess I feel some loyalty to that. If it were a public chat I would happily post mine. And no I did not accidently delete mine. I hav re-read it a few times now and am a little ashamed of my comments but I was very angry at the accuations at the time so I did say some things I regret. But I never insulted a mod or dev in public and I did it only to blow off steam in what I thought was a private forum with people I thought were unjustly accused with no proof. If I remeber right the rules of the forum are no name calling or starting riots just constructive criticism. I think the posts speak for themselves and the broke the rules. If you disagree please constuctivly show me the pig of the yeat how.

I have not said anything like that but i did infer that and you picked up on it as a possibility. Thank you. Go back and re-read what I said I asked for the names and access to the same chatlogs that ent as my accuser had access to so that I may adequatley answer the charges of insulting a dev that I am accused of gee is that unreasonable. That an accused man have the right to examine the evidence that has convicted and sentenced him? OMG am i asking too much here? I have been convicted and sentenced with no chance to defend myself as have the other people banned. Do you guys really think that is fair? If you believe the logs ent posted that is fine but should i not at least have a chance to oink for myself in self defense?

Correct me if i am wrong but if someone accused someone of something in my house I would not look for 3 corraburators I would talk to that person and find out what they meant if they said it. I would rather hear ir feom the horses mouth than 3 people that wont even say hello if those 3 people exist. Has anyone other than ent seen or heard from those people? I sure have not. Now if I am to be crucified like this should I not have the right to know who holds the nails?

OK. I have given up. I accept the Pig of the year award graciously. Thank you Entropy. I have been such a pig. I used an illegeal client 2 or 3 times. I have been such a disruptive player too. I have been banned how many times before? I have been accused of being the number 1 macroer in el. I have been acused of lieing to mods/devs and insulting them. I have seen the proof too. Chatlogs from gm. With no names attached or any way for me to defend myself. In fact i was not even offered a chance to defend myself nor was anyone else banned. Ir was taken as if it were the truth and maybe it was the truth but what are they afraid of by letting us face the people that speak the truth? Even if what was said is the unaltered truth (which i do not concede) it was said within a guild chat. Not public and certainly not a real threat to the game. It was a threat to the fact that we were not going to be falsely accused od things we did not do. The members of ef for the most part admitted what they did illegeal. The devs then said we did more and then they found that they may have messed up and that the method they used was inaccurate so they decided to save face by makeing me the pig and banning others in ef for participating in a conversation in gm. In gm not public. The fact that someone in the guild would violate the chat is bad enough. The fact that ent would use that chat no matter how he got it as a readon to ban someone is deploreable. What can we not speak our minds here? I mean i am the pig and a sick misreable fool. But is that a reason to silence me? Because I do not think I should bow down and worship entropy? I insulted him and if you believe the log he posted Roja too. But guess what u have to believe those logs and I have already seen that the devs and such cant interpert the logs. If they could none of this would be happening. They thought i was the number 1 macroer ask them for proof they already know it was a bug in their detection that "caught" me

I was not speaking of myself I admitted it. But others were accused that did not use it.

For what it is worth you have won entropy. You have staged a kangaroo court in public with log files only you can verify from people that may or may not exist. I am at a distinct disadvantage here and you knew I would be. I however have at least retained some of my dignity and not resorted to calling names and makeing accusations that I cant back up. I was very curious how you and the other devs were going to try and save face after all the accusations of illegeal client use and illegeal macroeing were going to be show as fals. I must say I never thought this was how you would do it but hey I always say never be surprised by what man is capable of.

That is your opinion Enyo. You have so little credibility you have changed names several times so you can not feel harassed. I never have nor would I waste my time harassing you so why do you feel the need to harass me since you have kn knowledge of this incident at all why dont you go back to you silence. You are a much nicer person when you are silent.

Electra why not post under your real name. I think because we all know enyo has no credibility. The reason you stopped talking to me was because I would not let you walk all over me. I still wont so please just go back to being silent since you have no idea about any of this. Also thank you for not speaking to me it has been very nice and quiet. And As I said Ent as the accused pig here I think I have a right to know who accused me possibly I have a chatlog to impeach their credibility and I am sure if I do i can find 2 other chatlogs to match mine too. I think that is fair.

They can ban anyone true but they are banning me for a reason. And Ent if you take their word as proof then why cant you just say hey they are above reproach and here they are. Learner I dont see any times on those logs and since I do remeber when the conversation was I would hazzard a guess that as with the macroeing investigation you do not have a clue what you are doing when trying to glean information from a log file.

And learner no the conversation took place after the accusations were made. I remeber because I was very angry about the accuations.