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    Hello everyone,

    Good to see this game is up and running yet, as it has a special place in my heart, but it would seem my guild has died off and I have completely forgotten everything. To add to it anyone that knew me on a personal level has peaced out. So it looks like I've gotta start from ground zero on the social aspects as well as how to play. Anyone feel like throwing me a bone and getting me reacquainted with the world that is EL? I'll gladly give you my history if you want it. I'm EaterofSouls ingame. Feel free to PM me if online or shoot me a message here. 

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    So suppose I wish to buy 1 attribute - I need a nexus removal stone and 50 hydro bars.

     

    I can either harvest / mix like mad and get the items and stone - or if I am lucky enough to be able to, I can use $ to purchase items / gc to speed up the process

     

    Lets assume I am going to use $.

    I will need approx 1.3M gc.

     

    I can either purchase items from the shop and sell on the market, or purchase gc from farmers. Currently (and for at least the last year or so) I get a better return by buying from the gold farmers.

    So the gold farmer harvests a whole load of coal / iron /. whatever - sells on the market and I buy the gc.

     

    I then use the gc to purchase the hydro bars / stone and get my pp.

     

    Interestingly - to get the hydro bars - none of the items needed are the 'rare' items from the EL shop - just lots and lots of coal / iron / fe. IE exactly the same items that the gold farmers are best positioned to harvest to get their gc.

     

    The increased demand for hydro bars, simply pushes up the price for the raw ingredients (due to supply) - which means the farmer gets more gc for the same amount of work. This in turn pushes up the cost of the hydro bars - which means the gc buyer need to buy more. you should rework this as the prices have actually came down since the addition in the last year or so and in some cases are only being slightly raised by a few .1 gc at any point to make it worth the time to gather again

     

    This is a vicious circle and will only stop when the price of Hydro bars reaches the price of iron / steel / fe bought from the NPC. (This limit is surprisingly close)

     

    The above is simple supply and demand - and in itself not such a bad thing.

     

    However, it seriously impacts the game economy.

     

    1. Very little is sold in the EL shop.
      This means that the quantity of 'rare' items introduced into the game via the shop is low, and also Radu gets a small percentage of the rl $ spent on the game. where do you think the majority of rostos ingame come from?
    2. 2) The price of anything using coal / iron / fe also rises in price, and due to 1) above anything requiring a 'rare' item also increases in price due to low supply.as you stated above simple supply demand.with new items being added on a decently regular basis this is unavoidable and will only be solved when the game is nolonger being expanded on

     

    I would be really interested to find out the % of rl $ spend that goes to the EL shop rather than to the gc farmers.being one of the people whom over the years has made a fare amount of ingame->rl cash transactions(both making & spending) i can say that the business has fallen. since the game is older and the players more knowledgable most people can raise their own g/c (or lvls) in a reasonable amout of time. it is just a matter of if players wish to put the effort into it or take the easy way.

     

     

    Please note - I have nothing against gc farmer / pp buyers at all - they provide a necessary part of the game. I am just concerned - that falling income to the EL shop adversely affects, in fact jeopardises the future of the game. Without $ takings - the game cannot survive as currently is.

    falling in sales is a common place in growing businesses (yes i am considering it business since $ transactions are made)once they have reach a point of regularity. it is not due to gc farming or pp buyers but simply the average player currently has 1-3 year of playing under their belt in which time they have mostlikely found a means to support themselves ingame and dont have much need for items in the shop. from what i can see Ent is no dumbass and knows all this already thus the enchanted arms sale he had a few weeks back AND the addition of new items either purchasable via shop or made from bulk of various currently common "rare items".

    I think that there are several ways that this can be addressed but am interested to see responses.

     

    *Ducks and waits for flames*

     

    my responces are tied into the quote via the underlined portions.

     

    Maybe Radu should just start Selling Ready made characters then hed make HELLA bank..

     

    He could do an auction every month for a few permanent banned accounts.

     

    That might be fun :)

     

    Piper

     

    smartest man alive!!

     

     

    just fyi, there's like 1-2 gold farmers left. anyone who's selling characters or gold atm are people leaving the game.

     

    im not leaving 0_o i just periodically start over..

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