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No, i'm talking about various forms of scamming, bagjumping mixing/muling bags, BroDing people for no good reason other than your own enjoyment; benefiting from someone elses loss when you are consciously and purposefully responsible for that loss, and they are not an enemy. Finding a deathbag is a different story, imo it falls in the "middle"-like finding money on the ground at a large gathering. If you announce it maybe you find the real owner, maybe someone tricks you. Maybe you hear someone crying they lost their $50 and give it back, maybe not. But not going in their wallet and purposely taking it Edit: just thought i'de add, i return deathbags whenever possible.. and not out of fear of being outcast for bagjumping; sometimes people find fun in making other people happy, not ruining their day

A person with good morals can theoretically create an evil character in the game, and vice versa. Determining a players real nature can be done much more easily by reading what they type then by judging them on weather or not they have taken some deathbags, though someone with some intelligence and morals will probably realize the hurt they are doing to another person by ripping them off in some way (what they are really doing is wasting hours of the "victims" time/$ to save their own). Aside from the official game rules, EL is a lawless world. People come to play the game, all trying to advance to their own goals through whatever methods they enjoy. Many of these people have a common moral code in reality and it reflects in the way they treat/want to be treated by other players. The "community rules" are very sensible and obvious. You don't have to follow them, many don't. I don't think these rules hurt the fun of the game. You say people who break them are disliked and alienated by those who don't... Now I'm a bit confused here.. are you saying that it is sensible to not care a burglar has broken in, smashed the stereo, lit your pants on fire and stole your new tv? Maybe even favor him, do business with him and invite him on a holiday? Introduce him to your friends and not warn them? I mean... how successful and appealing is a community where you can't trust anyone? Yes this is a game, but one much work goes into, and your items have a real value (much time and/or $). I think in the end, weather or not Radu adds a huge monolith on IP with the EL community commandments etched into it, many will find these rules obvious and follow them, there will be a subculture that purposely breaks them, but the majority will fall somewhere in the middle as they do now. Just like real people, most characters in this game will do something they consider wrong at some point and hope no one finds out. As far as those who feel outcast due to their repeated "evil" deeds in game, go join PKG or FURY or some other gang of evildoers.. there are a few guilds out there who are lenient when it comes to community rules.

Daniken here, i'de like to order: 10k red snap (5k gc) 10k red rose (5k gc) 10k sulphur (22k gc) 32k gc total. Ty

Well that's why i said the player "ends up" donating a NMT, heh. But your idea sounds really good imo

If there is still a problem with not enough nmt leaving game, perhaps a quest where the player ends up donating a nmt cape could help? I don't know what kind of reward it would be, just a thought. Or adding one more way for them to be destroyed (like fire weapon damage). They might not leave as fast as if they were breakable, but could still help a bit.

hi, daniken here 10k Sapphire (32k gc) pls!

I will take these, in game name is Electricity Ok, set aside for you List Updated.

Sounds good Raistlin, pm me in game if i don't find you first List updated

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Ok, upon looking back perhaps i may have come across as opposing doing something about the problem by acknowledging the (evil)creative thinking that figured it out? I was just thinking about that klingon from star trek 3 when i added that. If you think i am one of "people who feel the need to be opposed to ideas when they have no good reason to be" you've got me figured wrong I never said i was opposed to doing something about it, was only posting to discuss weather or not it's a bug. But don't want to argue so done on that subject. I like the idea of the code you posted, but i'm sure some other problem could easily emerge from the no drop zone extending too far from the arena.

What i meant was that the dpa ranging trick causing the arenas to go unused, that seems blown a little out of proportion. And again i'm not against extending the ND zone. I'm saying until that day comes, now that the trick is for the most part general knowledge it should not present enough of a problem to kill the arenas. I should have been more specific, of course it's terrible to lose 1/2 mil gc.

No, i'm not saying that at all. I'm not against extending the ND zone, i'm just saying it's not a bug. And if the zone is not extended, it's just something to watch for when exiting the arena. People leaving the area to avoid death, well who cares if you die in ND unless you are high enough level for pki? And most at those levels can afford True Sight potions.. i don't know, it feels like it could be blown a little bit out of proportion.

It's not a bug, it's how all ranging works in EL. It's already hard enough to hit anything for the first 30 levels, imagine if our arrows/bolts didn't act like heat seekers when our target begins moving as we are shooting. Hitting anything would be even more rare. And it seems realistic for a creature just mortally wounded by an arrow or bolt, who is already in motion, to take a few steps before collapsing. Our arrows/bolts have the uncanny ability to change direction after liftoff to follow our targets. We like this for every scenario other than getting shot by one on the way out of a no drop arena. It is not a bug, it is simply the way ranging works, it's just something to be wary of at dpa. Whoever first realized this trick is an evil EL mastermind!

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Hi again 10k red rose (5k gc) 10k red snapdragon (5k gc) 10k sulfur (22k gc) (32k gc total) please and thank you! Daniken

nice reference, old wisdom meets new

39 Invisibility Potion- 75gc each 55 Potion of Accuracy- 85gc each 50 Potion of Evasion- 90gc each 3868 Bones- 2.3gc each 21k gc for all daniken in-game

Hi, daniken here. I would like (in this order if possible): 10k Red Rose- 5k gc (1) 10k Red Snapdragon- 5k gc (2) 10k Sapphire 32k gc (3) 42k gc total. thank you

I agree, titanium short sounds good. Decently low level and not used for harvesting anything..

4k Poison Ivy and 6k coal please (total 21,200gc) daniken in-game

Talking to Shantir in Glac magic shop about quest, he says; "It just so happened that at that time Osold a surplus of books and he gave me all the books i needed for free." Probably supposed to say "Osold had a surplus of books". No big deal really, but quest related so i reported

I'de like to order 4k poison ivy please (total 8k gc) daniken in-game

It's an interesting idea.. I think it would be cool to have summoning stones for unique elemental creatures, golems and the like. you could only have one active at a time, but instead of losing life each minute like summons (or whatever the interval is, i don't summon) they would have an upkeep, like creature food for mules/pheonix. there could be different types, some would heal you, or fight, or give you some type of bonus/advantage. and like the mule/pheonix, there would be levels. so the level/power of the "familiar" or "servant" creature/spirit would increase, perhaps it could change appearance and change abilites and/or bonuses, or those abilities/bonuses could become more powerful. For example an ice imp that attacks for cold damage, or a golem similar to a gargoyle in appearance who doesn't fight but raises the toughness and might of the player, or whoever was within a certain distance of it. Another example is a scorpion or ghostly creature who does poison damage in attacking. There could be a variety, and the stones would only be available from 2-3 npc's in Irilion & maybe the $ shop. Hopefully this isn't deemed off-topic, i think it's related

all i know is, i don't care what server i'm playing on, 150k gc for a great sword is ridiculous. 90k for a binding? c'mon.. And the pk server market is nasty in general, the one and only thing i will complain about with either server. i think all should have access to decent equipment, without spending 2 months gathering gc for a sword, or having to have 2 alts to farm gc for their main to get one. just my opinion. so someone explain to me what the npc(s) will do to hurt this server so bad.. or is it just the "pr0s" over here who will be "hurt" by it. you ask me the market here needs change

Bromber- yes *i aquired this character about a month ago. If this plan is approved i will be transferring my main server char as well.