kanver

Okay, fine. Although I'm still completely amazed that what I said was bad enough for punishment (even though you won't regard it as that), I'm going to accept that. Obviously I'm outnumbered here, as they say.. "If you don't like it, leave". Apparently lots of people "didn't like it", judging from the active player stats. I'm going to quit. In the years I've played, I never gotten into trouble with anyone, although I said worse stuff. If it's different now, I don't want to play this game anymore. And it's not about the rules either. If you choose to interpret rules in the strictest sense possible, you people have every right to silence everyone who doesn't follow the "6 sentences rule". And if you want to retreat to rule 27, that's okay. You know, it's like "DON'T QUESTION US, FOOL!". You can silence everyone who criticises anyone who deserves criticism this way. But I still think it's way over the top. I know myself, and I never once got angry this evening. It's not an excuse that I supposedly went "out of line" either. Again, I fully accept that you have your interpretation of the rules. But I don't recognize them. And that's why I'm gone.

I disagree with #3 being too busy these days, but anyway. Here's what I said, in a nutshell: "Why are FE still 3.5, while mini events made the price for ingredients go up?" After that, people told me that the prices haven't actually changed, and I accepted that. And after that I did not argue about the *issue*, I expressed how irritated I was about how agressive the mod was. And yes, I brought my absence up, but only to explain my lack of knowledge about the current market prices. After that, people held it against me.

It's a sign that your kind of talk is not wanted. I personally do not want to be silenced everytime I disagree with something. I hope you agree with me that I wasn't even angry or upset. It was more like... "*shakinghead*". But from what you say, I gather that what I said was actually against the rules, eglible for punishment?

Are you serious? I admit that someone with a very, very thin skin could take my statement as offensive. But "offensive" is more like "STFU up Maxine". You really think that being mildly unhappy with the strict interpretation of the rules deserves a 20 minute mute?

Hi. It started out with me (kanver) asking about prices: [20:25:37] [kanver @ 3]: Let me ask you.. how are FEs still 3.5 when the ingredients sell for 4.5? [20:25:46] [Zipher @ 3]: they dont [20:26:11] [Zipher @ 3]: sulver2gc flowers .5 each [20:26:14] [burn @ 3]: sulfur 2gc, roses 0.5gc, snaps 0.5gc [20:26:18] [KingScandu @ 3]: =2.5 [20:26:21] [NooBPL @ 3]: suilphur 2gcs flower 0.33 flower 0.5 [20:26:23] [KingScandu @ 3]: *3.5 [20:26:32] [NooBPL @ 3]: yea, it must be 4.5gcs [20:26:37] [NooBPL @ 3]: [20:27:01] [kanver @ 3]: Really? I've been playing for 2 weeks after a long break. From what I gathered it's 0.8-1 per flower and 2.5 for sulfur. [20:27:11] [kanver @ 3]: Because of those stupid mini events I've tried to buy flowers for the usual 0.5 for days. The best offer I got was 0.9. Sulfur was offered to me at 2.5. I'm not saying that this is the "official"price, but that's how it was presented to me. Anyway... [20:27:19] [Maxine @ 3]: TOPIC [20:27:22] [silvatica @ 3]: then they overcharge you kanver Someone kindly pointed ot to me, that I had a wrong price. [20:27:29] [NooBPL @ 3]: ur problem, but it's #3:P [20:27:35] [kanver @ 3]: What? Market prices are perfectly on topic. [20:27:48] [Maxine @ 3]: best to do a pc before trying to sell an item for the first time, pc steel shield please [20:27:53] [NooBPL @ 3]: Wbut ur break from game isn't... [20:27:59] [Ghrae @ 3]: Buy/sell/trade/price check = market. Discussing market conditions is best for #jc 4 I never ever made this conversation about me having a break or discussing the market conditions. I wondered about the prices, I asked #3 about the FE price, I never tried to "discuss" the prices. [20:28:03] [Maxine @ 3]: MUTING STARTS NOW [20:28:13] [adi @ 3]: caps plz [20:29:34] [kanver @ 3]: Incredible. Fine, I'll never say another word again other than the three oficially sanctioned sentences. Obviously, at this point, I was pissed off. The market channel is only there for "pc xy pls", "selling xy" or "buying xy"? Come on! It's the market channel. [20:29:46] You were channel muted (can't talk on the channels for 20 minutes) by Maxine. [20:30:03] [PM to Maxine: Thanks for proving my point.] [20:30:03] [PM from Maxine: Automessage: I am currently away from my computer] [20:30:25] [Maxine @ 3]: first mute done, more volunteers? [20:30:56] [Zipher @ 3]: maxine is scary :/,, selling 3 efe's I'm pretty sure I didn't do anything wrong. I asked about the price of a specific item. I was corrected, a mod got agressive and muted me. Is this acceptable? Is the mod completely right for doing that? If so, I'm going to leave for good. I can see how that last comment wasn't perfectly fine, but overall, my feeling is that there has to be a serious violation of the rules if you want to mute/ban someone. This wasn't even close to it.

It's "Zurück" and "Inhalt" for german. (Oh, but "Index" would work too, it's pretty common in germany aswell)

Thanks a lot, maybe you could have a look at this?: http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122507 There seems to be no maintainer for el at gentoo and I'd really like to see it going into the main tree in the near future.