DemonCowboy

the point of this thread is for those who are honorable to come to a consensus on what is honorable - not intended to stop the evil dishonorable to stop being that way, that would take the fun out of it. this thread is just to draw lines between honor and dishonor. it will let the honorable agree for less in-fighting between them, to make the maps "safer" for other honorable players, while letting the dishonorable types keep being that way. populating the maps w/ more ppl for the dishonorable to plunder because of the safe feeling because the honorable will be free to go after the dishonorable and not wasting time arguing/fighting w/ the other honorables i can't spell it out any plainer than that the alternative is game mechanics that would hinder pvp combat as a whole which there are plenty of threads of suggestions/cries for. this would be a social solution leaving the game open for the bad guys to b bad guys.

QUESTION: why r u playing a game if it's NOT to "consume time"? i'm sure if u'r worried about consuming time there are MANY more productive things u could b doing instead

i doubt u would say that if an act of terrorism affected u personally. like maybe if some1 in u'r family was in the twin towers as they fell, or any other act of terrorism of the like. i think u'd like to keep it so that doesn't happen to u. THAT is what makes it all necessary. i'm glad it's being done personally, i'd MUCH rather it kept over there then brought to MY doorstep!!! i think every1 should think about that a min. if these ppl AREN'T put in check they will only get worse. Clinton let them pull their crap w/ only slaps on the wrist (metaphorically speaking) and look what happened as a result.

well that's just suggesting that PKing is still picking on newbs . and most of them don't know to have such things yet (for whatever reason.) and if u want a true test take some1 closer to u'r lvl that can still do all those things, PLUS possibly knock u on u'r ass instead to boot. picking on those weaker isn't strategy - it's cowardice. strategy is using those things, plus other suprises to win a fight ( like starting a fight then in the middle of it, equipping a CoL or thermal serp or something when they expected a much easier fight., dissing then harming, etc.) um, i think your putting words in my mouth, i said nothing about picking on nubs, and nothing about avoiding fights with pple near my lvl, maybe if u have a point to prove you should use relevant quotes that's the way i understood it. if u mean that w/ ppl u'r lvl then the way i see it it's honorable. i personally wouldn't have a prob w/ that. don't think ne1 else truely honorable would either. might irritate me if i was about ur lvl and i lost to u, but i wouldn't really bitch about it...lol that now makes me fail to see what u'r origional point was. if it wasn't in any contradiction, then what? when i hijacked this thread. it was for ppl to debate and decide what was and wasn't honorable . so honorable guilds that wanted to go against the dishonorable ppl could because ppl would agree on what was honorable and what wasn't. this would b especially helpful to my guild because we're trying to get to where we need to b 1 of those guilds that will go after the dishonorable types when we can (still a fair ways off though i must admit, especially since i havent had the oppty to play much l8ly)

well that's just suggesting that PKing is still picking on newbs . and most of them don't know to have such things yet (for whatever reason.) and if u want a true test take some1 closer to u'r lvl that can still do all those things, PLUS possibly knock u on u'r ass instead to boot. picking on those weaker isn't strategy - it's cowardice. strategy is using those things, plus other suprises to win a fight ( like starting a fight then in the middle of it, equipping a CoL or thermal serp or something when they expected a much easier fight., dissing then harming, etc.) well there are alot of guilds that spend a fair amount of time on PK maps that claim to b honorable (L&O (just the name implies it), LLL , and 1 guild i forget which 1 i refused an alliance to because we couldn't agree what was honorable - just to name a few. as well as the guild i created.) and this would stop those kinds of disagreements and a bit of the infighting by the guilds that consider themselves honorable leaving them more free to go after the truely bad guys. There's one problem with that - it's not the honorable ones you need to comment - it's the pvp-attackers and noob slaughterers you need to say there is a problem - but for them, the only problem is that the kills aren't coming to the slaughter. Short of a change of game mechanics, the only thing that will change anything is to get the PK class as a whole to agree to a change. Until it is changed and balanced PROPERLY, it's only going to be a game of numbers, really. like i said above, if all the honorable guilds can agree what is and isn't honorable it will give more room for the newbs to come on the maps more because they'll at least FEEL safer (though they actually won't b,) because it won't stop the bad guys from being bad guys but it will stop the good guys from fighting w/ other good guys when they could b going after the real bad guys. the whole point of this is a social solution instead of a programmed 1 - that way the bad guys can still b bad guys and the good guys can agree on who's what.

i'm even replying to the old posts in this thread because now that it's brought up again i'm finally getting the chance to read it - i like the idea and am voting yes after this post. but i wasnt about to spend a solid quarter catching up on all the posts in all the forums...lol well it's no more gross than all the raw meat needing to b picked from ppl's teeth from all the PoFs ppl quaff...lol well even if it's not made a skill maybe things could b changed to where most fur items need to b tanned and brought to her first and paying her for her service (like another game i refuse to mention i know but still an idea) so? just shows that it's still a good idea and something worth thinking about implimenting at least.

oh well i tried to make it a community thing to help stop the requests for lvl restrictions on PvP. and have only gotten these posts that are anything but constructive. hopefully those who consider themselves honorable will think about this a bit and actually post something CONSTRUCTIVE eventually. hopefully b4 the demand for lvl restrictions is so great that it becomes a good idea to impliment. afterwards it will b too late.

i guess this means for those of us that like our privacy, the black market will just get bigger <shrug>

Don't forget the money tree. or the "Play For Me" button...lol

pry more than awhile - that was hilarious

i thought it stood to reason that that was part of the crowns feature, that u were giving up the defense of the helm and high breakability in EXCHANGE for all that extra mana or health. the magic or health bonus in exchange for the defense and extra fragility is more than a bargain imo. if this was added what would b next? industructable armor that made u completely invulnerable to ANY attack?

given some of his latest posts that i've seen - he just might...

because it will set a principle and makd for better politics between the honorable guilds. 1ce things r agreed to doesn't mean every1 will follow - just look at RL international politics...lol countries break THOSE rules all the time too. doesn't mean they don't help though. oh and a fun fact: since this thread was started i have read yet another call for lvl restricted combat

unless it's comming w/ a completely new map on C2 there's only PK area i know of that fits the description of where it will b. unless there are other PK maps w/ heat dammage that i haven't found yet. will b interesting for PKers too because plate would do them more harm than good there.

well when i took over this thread, it was aimed at players that DO see them, more speciffically the guilds that claim to b honorable. that way they could all discuss and come to a consensus on what is honorable and what isn't. when all of them agree on such things it will b easier for everybody to know who's who.