Aphistolas Report post Posted July 4, 2009 (edited) You wouldn't be saying this if it was your kid who got molested or fed booze kk. This coming from the guy who plasters the Internet with videos and images of his child semi-naked. It's a good thing nobody on the Internet is like, a paedophile... Seriously, he was acquitted of all charges. I would never have let my children (if I have any) stay with him, but I don't speak ill of him since he's dead. I believe in the courts, I won't let any personal intolerances influence my opinion of him. @Paul's edit: Alternatively, you could look up a lot of the witnesses and stuff they had against him. Like, the disgruntled employees, greedy parents, rumour-spreaders.... - Lets try to keep this thread clean, too. Edited July 4, 2009 by Aphistolas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PaulB Report post Posted July 4, 2009 You wouldn't be saying this if it was your kid who got molested or fed booze kk. This coming from the guy who plasters the Internet with videos and images of his child semi-naked. It's a good thing nobody on the Internet is like, a paedophile... Seriously, he was acquitted of all charges. I would never have let my children (if I have any) stay with him, but I don't speak ill of him since he's dead. I believe in the courts, I won't let any personal intolerances influence my opinion of him. @Paul's edit: Alternatively, you could look up a lot of the witnesses and stuff they had against him. Like, the disgruntled employees, greedy parents, rumour-spreaders.... - Lets try to keep this thread clean, too. So.... I have video's of my son playing around in a diaper and a t-shirt and this is strange to you? So you see a kid in a diaper and think of molesting kids? You want to keep this thread clean but you see a video of my son and your sick mind thinks perverted thoughts.. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
boognish Report post Posted July 4, 2009 (edited) Do you think he is the first guilty person to walk free?... Phil Spector, etc.... FYI Phil Spector is in jail now, he was found guilty beyond reasonable doubt but facts are irrelevant if you're just here to troll. Edited July 4, 2009 by boognish Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PaulB Report post Posted July 4, 2009 Do you think he is the first guilty person to walk free?... Phil Spector, etc.... FYI Phil Spector is in jail now, he was found guilty beyond reasonable doubt good. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aphistolas Report post Posted July 4, 2009 (edited) So.... I have video's of my son playing around in a diaper and a t-shirt and this is strange to you? So you see a kid in a diaper and think of molesting kids? You want to keep this thread clean but you see a video of my son and your sick mind thinks perverted thoughts.. Right, involving the admins now. Edit: Nice maturity you got there. Edited July 4, 2009 by Aphistolas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PaulB Report post Posted July 4, 2009 So.... I have video's of my son playing around in a diaper and a t-shirt and this is strange to you? So you see a kid in a diaper and think of molesting kids? You want to keep this thread clean but you see a video of my son and your sick mind thinks perverted thoughts.. Right, involving the admins now. Edit: Nice maturity you got there. You talk about me being mature when your the one making comments about my son and pedo's? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aphistolas Report post Posted July 4, 2009 (edited) I merely found it ironic that you are so vehemently opposed to someone who has been vindicated of all charges of paedophilia, and child molestation in general, while posting pictures and videos of your own son to millions of anonymous viewers. Great judgement. Moreover, the fact you keep trying to bait me into a flame is ridiculous considering you're a lot older than I am. Really, what if I implied you were a paedophile? That would definitely be just of me, especially considering there is 'evidence' supporting that theory. Grow up. Edited July 4, 2009 by Aphistolas Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
PaulB Report post Posted July 4, 2009 I merely found it ironic that you are so vehemently opposed to someone who has been vindicated of all charges of paedophilia, and child molestation in general, while posting pictures and videos of your own son to millions of anonymous viewers. Great judgement. Moreover, the fact you keep trying to bait me into a flame is ridiculous considering you're a lot older than I am. Really, what if I implied you were a paedophile? That would definitely be just of me, especially considering there is 'evidence' supporting that theory. Grow up. First of all... Posting pictures and videos of my son is my choice and it's not a bad judgment. In no way are my pictures or videos indecent in any way. I have a right to show them to my friends and family as I see fit. And I am not trying to bait you into a flame war. I was just trying to respond to this comment... This coming from the guy who plasters the Internet with videos and images of his child semi-naked. It's a good thing nobody on the Internet is like, a paedophile... And in this thread people come forward and tell others that they love Michael Jackson and how he was so great and should be hailed as such, but when one of us come forward and say we are happy he is gone and we believe that he did what he was accused of people start calling us things like "disgusting". I have every right to defend my beliefs and those who persecute me for them and in the end I will believe what I want to and you will believe what you want you. But don't come in here and call my comments and others disgusting because they don't meet your moral standard. And FYI I made my comment back to you because in my sons pictures and videos I see a beautiful child whom I love and care for dressed in a t-shirt and a diaper but you see a semi-naked boy and think pedo. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aphistolas Report post Posted July 4, 2009 post I did have a long post written out, but I realised there wasn't any point to it. I don't care enough to really write out a huge argument. However, I think you should keep your negative comments to yourself. It's obviously an MJ appreciation thread, if you want to argue then take it somewhere else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanyel Report post Posted July 4, 2009 (edited) I am speechless. I am in awe. Paul Brown should post more, even though, he does not read other people posts at all. I love being amused. Edited July 4, 2009 by Natsume Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
MLCA Report post Posted July 4, 2009 looks like paulb is one of em kids molested by mj thats why hes so pissed Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
The_Piper Report post Posted July 4, 2009 I am speechless. I am in awe. Paul Brown should post more, even though, he does not read other people posts at all. I love being amused. It might be strange, but i have to agree with that guy with too many names. Do people really think, that just because they think, without any proof, that someone is guilty, is guilty? Civilized mankind has developed some rules since centuries, like "in dubio pro reo" and was/is quite happy with that, but what i read somewhere in this thread sounds more like a lynch mob should sort out things. But that might be a cultural thing i dont understand. Maybe just throwing a rope over a branch and hang someone just for the sake of doing it, and god will sort out the innocent ones, might be a solution. *shakes head* Piper Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robotbob Report post Posted July 5, 2009 (edited) He did admit, and its public knowledge, he as a middle aged man had pj sleepovers with little boys, that did in fact sleep in the same bed with him. Is this not at all creepy to the disciples of messiah jackson? EDIT: poor Farrah Fawcett needs her own thread too. I'm just fascinated with herofication, this hero worship of anyone. It amazing how overblown the persons acheivements become and how any failures or crimes are completely accepted. Any behavior is allowed, they earn the right. Edited July 5, 2009 by robotbob Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
korrode Report post Posted July 5, 2009 (edited) I merely found it ironic that you are so vehemently opposed to someone who has been vindicated of all charges of paedophilia, and child molestation in general, while posting pictures and videos of your own son to millions of anonymous viewers. Great judgement. Stop talking BS, just because a parent shows-off their child it doesn't mean they somehow lose the right to be opposed to middle aged men running pyjama sleep-overs with young boys. Edited July 5, 2009 by Korrode Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ateh Report post Posted July 5, 2009 (edited) He did admit, and its public knowledge, he as a middle aged man had pj sleepovers with little boys, thatdid in fact sleep in the same bed with him. Is this not at all creepy to the disciples of messiah jackson? EDIT: poor Farrah Fawcett needs her own thread too. I'm just fascinated with herofication, this hero worship of anyone. It amazing how overblown the persons acheivements become and how any failures or crimes are completely accepted. Any behavior is allowed, they earn the right. bob I dont think anyone WANTS TO READ THAT JACKSON ADMITTED TO HAVING PYJAMA PARTIES WITH LITTLE BOYS AND THEY ALL SLEPT IN THE SAME BED in a TV interview. FFS its not hard to see that theres something deeply fucked up about that. Im glad he gave away so much money to charity and saved millions of lives its what anyone with half a heart would do if they had ridiculous amounts of $$$$ *edit* Gratz on dying anyway MJ we all have to go sooner or later I personally couldnt give a flying f*** if anyone cries at my funeral I just know there wont be anyone stood there wondering if I bummed thier child Edited July 5, 2009 by Ateh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Infamous Report post Posted July 5, 2009 HOW the HELL did RIP thread turn into the rights and wrongs of hero worship? EVERYone has the right to be mourned and like it or not public figures get mourned more than anyone else - remember Princess Diana? I sure do and whatever your personal opinions of what he did/didn't do - he touched millions with his music - and a LOT of charities including saving the lives of people - giving dying children one last great holiday - helping stop the spread of aids etc ALL benifited from his life. No he is not running into a fire to save people (oh gods here come MORE sick comments), but he saved people in his own way - millions of times over. Let the guy have his mourners in peace - get off your butts and do something that worthwhile and maybe millions will weep for you also. A life passing without the passing of a single tear is a life wasted - millions of tears have fallen for him - it says everything!! EXACTLY. Seems like a lot of people here are just jealous Michael Jackson was an artist whose music, dancing and videos were loved by millions of people around the world. And no, it wasn't just good marketing. If you don't like how successful Jackson was, here's what I recommend that you to do: :P :pickaxe: Then read this and bang your head against the wall again http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_award...Michael_Jackson quite interesting, among the awards i notice: # 12 Boy Scouts of America # 25 Children's Choice Awards # 22 Capitol Children Museum he really had a thing for kids i see, did he win those with or without touching or intoxicating kids? :] @Aphistolas how low can you go? nothing wrong with a baby in diaper/t-shirt, comments suggesting paulb is a pedo for that makes me wonder.. did anything happen in your childhood that makes that wrong? or.. got a confession to make? anyway if you think thats wrong, have you ever gone to the beach? or a pool? more skin to be seen there, people in bathing suits is wrong aswell? anyway RIP micheal, loved his music, but think his actions were wrong though whether or not he was or wasnt guilty Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gohan Report post Posted July 5, 2009 I bought a support card thingy for the Kids with Cancer thingies this week, I hope I get a fawking thread like this too when I die later. Btw, this is a very amusing read on a Sunday morning. =) -Gohan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Aphistolas Report post Posted July 5, 2009 Stop talking BS, just because a parent shows-off their child it doesn't mean they somehow lose the right to be opposed to middle aged men running pyjama sleep-overs with young boys. If you're too ignorant to see how that could be a problem, there is no point in arguing. I don't understand why people can be so protective of their kids and do things like that. To me, it's weird because: If I took my kids to the beach and saw someone I thought had less-than-groovy intentions stare at them, I'd probably just drive everyone home. Removing them like that isn't possible on the Internet. Whatever though, I just woke up, so not really feeling dedicated enough to continue arguing. Bygones be bygones and all that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Entris Report post Posted July 5, 2009 (edited) quite interesting, among the awards i notice:# 12 Boy Scouts of America # 25 Children's Choice Awards # 22 Capitol Children Museum he really had a thing for kids i see, did he win those with or without touching or intoxicating kids? :] Yeah those were not taken out of it's context at all 1 AASA Awards 2 American Cinema Awards 3 American Music Awards 4 American Video Awards 5 Bambi Awards 6 BET Awards 6.1 Hall of Fame 7 Billboard Awards 7.1 Billboard Music Awards 7.2 Billboard Music of the 80's Poll 7.3 Billboard Year in Music Survey 7.4 Billboard Video Awards 8 Black Gold Awards 9 Blockbuster Entertainment Awards 10 BMI Urban Awards 11 Bob Fosse Awards 12 Boy Scouts of America 13 Bravo Magazine 14 Brazillian TVZ Video Awards 15 BRE Awards 16 BRIT Awards 17 British Phonographic Industry Awards 18 British TV Industry Awards 19 Bollywood Awards 20 Cable Ace Awards 21 Canadian Black Music Awards 22 Capitol Children Museum 23 Cashbox Awards 24 Celebrate the Magic Foundation 25 Children's Choice Awards 26 Crenshaw Community Youth & Arts Foundation 27 Critic's Choice Awards 28 Crystal Globe Awards 29 Danish Grammy Awards 30 Dutch Music Factory Awards 31 Ebony Magazine 32 ECHO Awards 33 Entertainment Tonight 34 Forbes Magazine 35 Friday Night Videos 36 Genesis Awards 37 Golden Globe Awards 38 Grammy Awards 38.1 Grammy Hall of Fame 39 Guinness Book of World Records 40 Harry Chapin Memorial 41 Hollywood Walk of Fame 42 International Awards 42.1 Australia 42.2 Brazil 42.3 Gabon 42.4 Greece 42.5 Holland 42.6 Italy 42.7 Japan 42.8 The Netherlands 42.9 Spain 42.10 The United Kingdom 43 Hong Kong Hit Radio Awards 44 Irish Music Awards 45 Le Film Fantastique Awards 46 Live! Magazine 47 Mix Magazine 48 MTV Awards 48.1 MTV European Music Awards 48.2 MTV Japan Awards 48.3 MTV Movie Awards 48.4 MTV Video Music Awards 48.5 MTV Video Vanguard Awards 48.6 MTV Artist of the Millenium Award 49 Music Connection 50 Music Video Producers' Hall of Fame 51 NAACP Image Awards 52 NARM Gift of Music Awards 53 National Association of Black Owned Broadcasters 54 National Urban Coalition Awards 55 NRJ Awards 56 Oneness Awards 57 Operation One to One Awards 58 People's Choice Awards 59 Popcorn Magazine 60 Pop Rock Magazine 61 Poprocky Magazine 62 Presidential Awards 63 Puls Music TV 64 Radio Music Awards 65 RIAA Awards 66 Rock and Roll Hall of Fame 67 Rolling Stone Awards 67.1 Critic's Poll 67.2 Reader's Poll 68 Smash Hits Awards 68.1 Smash Hits Poll 69 Songwriter's Hall of Fame 70 Soul Train Awards 70.1 Hall of Fame 71 United Negro College Fund 72 United States Congress 73 Vanity Fair 74 Video Software Dealer Association Awards 75 World Awards 76 World Music Awards 76.1 Hall of Fame 76.2 Viewer's Choice 77 Other honours I mean really... You picked out 3/100 awards that he won and thinks that has something to do with anything, MJ won those awards and all the other awards because his fans voted for his song/music/video/album what ever so don't make it something else then that cos thats just stupid.. Yes the world lost a great performer and singer and so on and it is a shame, he made ppl feel good in alot of ways thru his music and now he's gone. No i don't think that his death is something to kill yourself over as apparently 12 ppl did and thats just idiotic but 12 less morons in this world wont make me cry.. Edited July 5, 2009 by Entris Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
conavar Report post Posted July 5, 2009 No i don't think that his death is something to kill yourself over as apparently 12 ppl did and thats just idiotic but 12 less morons in this world wont make me cry.. Really ??? lol Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Vanyel Report post Posted July 5, 2009 (edited) *edit* Gratz on dying anyway MJ we all have to go sooner or later I personally couldnt give a flying f*** if anyone cries at my funeral I just know there wont be anyone stood there wondering if I bummed thier child What makes you so sure of it. It takes just one (or three, Paul Brown ©) 'testimony' to change it. quite interesting, among the awards i notice:# 12 Boy Scouts of America # 25 Children's Choice Awards # 22 Capitol Children Museum he really had a thing for kids i see, did he win those with or without touching or intoxicating kids? :] Hmm... so, countless people donating for the purpose of children are to be accused of and called paedophiles now? Awesome. how low can you go? nothing wrong with a baby in diaper/t-shirt, comments suggesting paulb is a pedo for that makes me wonder.. did anything happen in your childhood that makes that wrong? or.. got a confession to make?anyway if you think thats wrong, have you ever gone to the beach? or a pool? more skin to be seen there, people in bathing suits is wrong aswell? Not sure if you, Paul Brown and anybody else keep missing the point of Aphistolas point purposefully. It seems so, though. Nobody can be blunt enough not to get it. Aphistolas made a valid comment. Posting own children photos/clips/etc. does NOT mean you are a paedophile, not at all. However, these media MIGHT be used by ones. I've heard about parents being accused of being paedophiles, because they posted their sons/daughters naked pictures on one of the community portals in Europe. Is it weird? In my opinion, indeed, it is. Quite many people posting in this thread are no seconds to ones being involved in mentioned by me accusations. Edited July 5, 2009 by Natsume Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
korrode Report post Posted July 5, 2009 (edited) Aphistolas made a valid comment. Posting own children photos/clips/etc. does NOT mean you are a paedophile, not at all. However, these media MIGHT be used by ones. Any personal media posted freely on the internet MIGHT be used by anyone and MIGHT be used for anything. We cant all just stay in our houses and sand down all sharp edges because of the bad things that MIGHT be out in the world. To me, it's not Aphistolas' point that's being missed, the point myself (and i think some others) are making is that PaulB is not lacking sound judgement for posting said media, which is exactly what Aphistolas implied with his sarcastic comment. while posting pictures and videos of your own son to millions of anonymous viewers. Great judgement. Edited July 5, 2009 by Korrode Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
robotbob Report post Posted July 5, 2009 This is amazing read, I still, and I don't know why, am amazed that hero worship is this powerful. Instead of addressing that this person was a seriously mentally ill person, and things this person stated he in fact did, the hero-fication goes on to list the awards this person received. You could list the awards given to that person by their cultish following but it in NO way validates that persons real life and not the fantasy one generated by the followers or pr machine. John Wayne Gacy was a clown and brought smiles to many birthdays. He was pictured with 1st Lady Rosalyn Carter for his work as a political activist. Hitler brought Germany out of a depression, rebuilt the military, built the auto-bahn, designed the shape of the vw bug, oh fucking come on lol, I could do this for any fucked up human being I want to hero worship. Gohan, in light of the 'support card thingy for the Kids with Cancer thingies' I would like a poster, so I can start my cultish creepy shrine to you in my closet, kkty. I hope this thread continues, its great to read realtime hero defense, so less boring than the old acolades for now dead dictators. Can a cult follower actually address the pj party fact? I think you are right Ateh. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gohan Report post Posted July 6, 2009 Gohan, in light of the 'support card thingy for the Kids with Cancer thingies' I would likea poster, so I can start my cultish creepy shrine to you in my closet, kkty. Lol, the things I type when I cba to try and translate correctly or look it up. It's a deal, I'll start working on posters right away, but you must promise me to go mad incredibly whenever I die and some other crazy stuff, I'll figure something out later. -Gohan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Gohan Report post Posted July 6, 2009 (edited) For the best laugh of it all, here's an update on how stupid people get. OMIGOD, GHOSTS. -Gohan EDIT: Sorry for double post. Edited July 6, 2009 by Gohan Share this post Link to post Share on other sites