Sayre Report post Posted November 18, 2008 Some bots speak locally when you walk by. Is this permitted? If so, is there some sort of limit? Cheers, S. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
majestyk Report post Posted November 18, 2008 .. or they comment on harvest events. Very pesky. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LabRat Report post Posted November 18, 2008 Like all things ingame there are limits. Not hard set limits per se but what you would consider spam for a player is spam for a bot too. On my bots for example I don't allow announcements when a player comes into view as this can get spammy fast. My bots do congratulate players when a good harvest event occurs (blessing, found a stone, bag of gold etc) but not on negative events (pickaxes breaking, damage etc) which a couple of players find annoying but in the main I get a large number of players commenting on how much they like the feature. If a bot I host gets spam report and I am informed of it I will disable the player greeting in local for that bot and inform the owner. Better a quiet bot than a locked one. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Cruella Report post Posted November 18, 2008 Occasionally near Calliope, when lots of people harv in PV, preferebly on increased harvest events day, it gets very spammy Congratulations on positive event once or twice is enterrtaining, however dozens of these might be annoying. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Mar(c) Report post Posted November 18, 2008 Most local comments by bots are very repetitive and serve hardly any purpose (besides wanting to be heard/known -- and thus being annoying). Greeting owner(s) or their friends:This can get very spammy if the bot does it every time the player comes into sight.IMO, limit it to one greeting (per player) per in-game day, max. Congratulating on any (positive) harvest events:This may be fun for a few minutes, but like majestyk and Cruella say, it gets annoying very fast.IMO, limit it to only rare events, or don't comment on harvest events at all. New hour messages:If people want such a message, they can enable it in the client. In general, if it's not coded with spam prevention, I say don't let the bot say anything at all. And the less purpose a message serves, the faster it will become spammy/annoying. Hourly time-stamp: log continued at 2008-02-23 16:50:56 localtime (W. Europe Standard Time) [17:22:38] Calliope: gnomey \o/ [17:39:47] Calliope: gnomey \o/ [17:41:19] Calliope: gnomey \o/ [17:42:15] Calliope: gnomey \o/ [17:43:35] Calliope: gnomey \o/ [17:47:16] Calliope: gnomey \o/ [17:47:32] Calliope: gnomey \o/ [17:50:34] Calliope: gnomey \o/ -- Hourly time-stamp: log continued at 2008-03-11 18:03:31 localtime (W. Europe Standard Time) [18:06:14] Calliope: gnomey \o/ Hourly time-stamp: log continued at 2008-03-11 19:04:01 localtime (W. Europe Standard Time) [19:26:48] Calliope: gnomey \o/ [19:27:43] Calliope: gnomey \o/ [19:28:45] Calliope: gnomey \o/ [19:38:24] Calliope: gnomey \o/ -- Hourly time-stamp: log continued at 2008-03-26 21:38:33 localtime (W. Europe Standard Time) [22:04:10] Calliope: gnomey \o/ [22:04:17] Marc: spammer \o/ -- Hourly time-stamp: log continued at 2008-03-28 18:05:06 localtime (W. Europe Standard Time) [18:33:32] Calliope: gnomey \o/ [18:44:07] Calliope: gnomey \o/ [18:44:43] Marc: is ^ that spam really necessary? >< [18:44:56] Lyeowar: ? [18:45:23] Marc: oh maybe you're out of range for Calliope: gnomey \o/ -- Hourly time-stamp: log continued at 2008-05-06 23:19:13 localtime (W. Europe Daylight Time) [00:09:15] Calliope: Well done -- Hourly time-stamp: log continued at 2008-06-25 18:27:43 localtime (W. Europe Daylight Time) [19:13:28] groomsh found a bag of gold, getting 19 gold coins [19:13:28] Calliope: Lucky find -- Hourly time-stamp: log continued at 2008-06-26 00:30:38 localtime (W. Europe Daylight Time) [01:26:01] Marc found a bag of gold, getting 13 gold coins [01:26:01] Calliope: I suppose Marc only just sat down to harvest too -- Hourly time-stamp: log continued at 2008-06-26 02:31:57 localtime (W. Europe Daylight Time) [03:23:35] Vangnoz found a bag of gold, getting 7 gold coins [03:23:35] Calliope: Well done -- Hourly time-stamp: log continued at 2008-06-26 18:41:34 localtime (W. Europe Daylight Time) [19:00:07] Calliope: eeep concon \o/ [19:01:33] Calliope: eeep concon \o/ [19:03:00] Calliope: eeep concon \o/ [19:04:05] Calliope: eeep concon \o/ Hourly time-stamp: log continued at 2008-06-26 19:42:04 localtime (W. Europe Daylight Time) [20:26:11] Calliope: eeep concon \o/ -- Hourly time-stamp: log continued at 2008-06-27 19:56:02 localtime (W. Europe Daylight Time) [20:56:19] Calliope: mi fedora again \o/ -- Hourly time-stamp: log continued at 2008-07-18 20:07:47 localtime (W. Europe Daylight Time) [20:30:10] Calliope: eeep concon \o/ -- Hourly time-stamp: log continued at 2008-08-06 01:17:05 localtime (W. Europe Daylight Time) [02:06:25] Marc found a bag of gold, getting 17 gold coins [02:06:25] Calliope: gratz [02:06:41] Marc: oh shaddap >< -- Hourly time-stamp: log continued at 2008-08-09 15:07:05 localtime (W. Europe Daylight Time) [15:15:05] Corran found a bag of gold, getting 11 gold coins [15:15:05] Calliope: Well done -- Hourly time-stamp: log continued at 2008-09-10 22:33:01 localtime (W. Europe Daylight Time) [23:01:11] Calliope: Obviously not rare enough [23:01:38] Calliope: Congratulations [23:05:35] Calliope: Lucky find [23:17:13] guinevereanne found a bag of gold, getting 20 gold coins [23:17:13] Calliope: Well done [23:31:16] guinevereanne found a bag of gold, getting 12 gold coins [23:31:16] Calliope: gratz -- Hourly time-stamp: log continued at 2008-09-27 13:25:29 localtime (W. Europe Daylight Time) [14:10:54] Calliope: Did you just see a real bright light? [14:13:04] Marc found a bag of gold, getting 20 gold coins [14:13:04] Calliope: They'll let anyone harvest these days [14:14:01] [PM to Calliope: They let anyone code a spam bot these days ;o] -- Hourly time-stamp: log continued at 2008-09-30 01:00:29 localtime (W. Europe Daylight Time) [01:28:44] guy found a bag of gold, getting 12 gold coins [01:28:44] Calliope: gratz [01:35:03] leahatwood found a bag of gold, getting 20 gold coins [01:35:03] Calliope: Well done [01:35:14] guy found a bag of gold, getting 19 gold coins [01:35:14] Calliope: gratz -- Hourly time-stamp: log continued at 2008-09-30 18:11:42 localtime (W. Europe Daylight Time) [19:06:04] Calliope: Well done [19:10:43] Calliope: I suppose BruSu only just sat down to harvest too Hourly time-stamp: log continued at 2008-09-30 19:12:14 localtime (W. Europe Daylight Time) [20:05:10] Calliope: Did you just see a real bright light? -- Hourly time-stamp: log continued at 2008-10-08 18:23:39 localtime (W. Europe Daylight Time) [19:11:25] Cordor found a bag of gold, getting 16 gold coins [19:11:25] Calliope: Well done -- Hourly time-stamp: log continued at 2008-10-09 02:28:15 localtime (W. Europe Daylight Time) [02:36:32] Marc found a bag of gold, getting 120 gold coins [02:36:32] Calliope: Obviously not rare enough -- Hourly time-stamp: log continued at 2008-10-11 23:36:51 localtime (W. Europe Daylight Time) [00:10:31] Marc found a bag of gold, getting 19 gold coins [00:10:31] Calliope: Did you just see a real bright light? [00:10:52] Marc: Nope, I only saw some bot spam -- Hourly time-stamp: log continued at 2008-10-13 00:52:19 localtime (W. Europe Daylight Time) [01:19:15] lilcnoot found a bag of gold, getting 8 gold coins [01:19:15] Calliope: They'll let anyone harvest these days Hourly time-stamp: log continued at 2008-10-13 01:52:49 localtime (W. Europe Daylight Time) [02:06:10] Marc found a bag of gold, getting 8 gold coins [02:06:10] Calliope: Lucky find -- Hourly time-stamp: log continued at 2008-10-15 21:43:49 localtime (W. Europe Daylight Time) [22:12:04] Marc found a bag of gold, getting 20 gold coins [22:12:04] Calliope: They'll let anyone harvest these days [22:12:42] Marc: they let anyone program a spam bot these days -.-' -- Hourly time-stamp: log continued at 2008-10-16 02:46:39 localtime (W. Europe Daylight Time) [03:05:09] leahatwood found a bag of gold, getting 9 gold coins [03:05:09] Calliope: Did you just see a real bright light? [03:08:26] leahatwood found a bag of gold, getting 10 gold coins [03:08:26] Calliope: Well done [03:29:38] Shea found a bag of gold, getting 11 gold coins [03:29:38] Calliope: They'll let anyone harvest these days -- Hourly time-stamp: log continued at 2008-10-18 20:23:38 localtime (W. Europe Daylight Time) [21:11:23] Marc was blessed by the Queen of Nature with 3090 worth of harvesting exp. [21:11:24] Calliope: Congratulations [21:18:52] Calliope: Congratulations -- Hourly time-stamp: log continued at 2008-10-19 17:42:37 localtime (W. Europe Daylight Time) [17:54:21] Wynn found a bag of gold, getting 9 gold coins [17:54:21] Calliope: They'll let anyone harvest these days -- Hourly time-stamp: log continued at 2008-11-09 17:00:29 localtime (W. Europe Standard Time) [17:19:12] Calliope: Congratulations [17:23:00] Calliope: Well done [17:34:00] Calliope: They'll let anyone harvest these days Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Entropy Report post Posted November 19, 2008 Yeah, that's true, it is annoying, and it is actually against the bot rules, but so far I just tolerated it. I guess we can have a poll or something if bots should be allowed to do that. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ateh Report post Posted November 19, 2008 (edited) Yeah, that's true, it is annoying, and it is actually against the bot rules, but so far I just tolerated it. I guess we can have a poll or something if bots should be allowed to do that. would that be a poll for bot owners only ? or for everyone ? *edit* cant remember bot name exactly but it was in NC somewhere, at one point would actually shout at you some random item it had when you walked past, kinda crazy , almost felt like shouting back sometimes but .... yeh Edited November 19, 2008 by Ateh Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ozmondius Report post Posted November 19, 2008 LionsGuild only greets LION members and is not in an area where many people congregate. I doubt anyone has felt spammed by him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
asgnny Report post Posted November 19, 2008 LionsGuild only greets LION members and is not in an area where many people congregate. I doubt anyone has felt spammed by him. A decision on this should be "allowed" or "not allowed", imo -- it's far too subjective to decide which areas are popular enough, or how many people are allowed in a guild roster before locally greeting all guildies is considered "too much". If a guild wants to permit PM's from their own bot while walking by, then so be it, but why make others in the area suffer through a screen full of spam? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ozmondius Report post Posted November 19, 2008 I don't disagree, gnny, just making an observation. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
kit_gw Report post Posted November 19, 2008 Mine only reminds at the top of the hour to harvest, I guess that would be annoying.. But Helpful too. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LabRat Report post Posted November 19, 2008 Pending a community decision all local chat on my bots and the bots I host has been disabled. [personal opinion]Back to being bored shitless in the mine then, at least the messages prompted conversation while mining in the cave.[/personal opinion] Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Ozmondius Report post Posted November 19, 2008 Changed all LionsGuild local messages to pm's. Serves the same purpose we intended anyway. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
LabRat Report post Posted November 19, 2008 Community poll for this is at http://www.eternal-lands.com/forum/index.p...st&p=474389 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Doggy_board Report post Posted December 18, 2008 Hi there, It's been 20 days since no more answers have been added to this poll ... has a decision been taken ? My bot's muted pending the decision ... which i have no clue if it has been taken or not. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Trojan_Knight Report post Posted December 19, 2008 Imo I think a bot should remain quiet "publicly" unless spoken to / used. Or in such event like lab has stated, where those that are in, for example. A silver mine and a player finds some type of stone. We all know the players are going to mass send msgs. So a bot in this case, imo should be "ok" to say "Congrats, now sell to me muah ha ha.." for example. But just people passing by I think is a different story. Because yeah sometimes random events do repeat one after a another (only seen this myself once happen three times in a row in a very positive manner while harvesting with a large group long ago).. But its not happening every minute of every hour of everyday. just my 2 cents.. hf ~~> me <~~ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Drakos7 Report post Posted April 13, 2009 As some of you know, Adarah announces the proximity of Gargs at Raven to give the new players fair warning of impending doom. I disabled the "No summoning near storage" warning though. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markdothexen Report post Posted April 17, 2009 Regarding bot chat on local... If this is such a big issue, then #ignore_bots should also ignore local bot chat. not sure how difficult it would be to implement. Mark Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
markdothexen Report post Posted April 17, 2009 I disabled local hail on daylecat. seems your all doing it anyway. Mark Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
