Custom Privacy Ranking

[Cissysauce]

I have my ranks all set to private for PK reasons. Now that I am #2 in Tailoring someone recently mentioned to me that not having my name show up in the top Tailors list could be costing me business. That may or may not be true but I would still like to see my name on certain lists.

 

I talked to Learner and he said he would be willing to set up a custom ranking page if there was enough interest in it. This service would be in addition to the Privacy services already offered, so there would be an additional charge.

 

I dont have any more details at the moment but if there is any interest in it Learner could let us know what he would be willing to offer and at what price.

 

So what do you guys think?

[Michic0_oL]

yessss would be good hehe

whats the point of having pk ranking if you figure private in there ? ^^

[Rith]

sounds good. i voted yes

[kibora]

I don't see a reason for such thing. It would be much better if this privacy thing is completely removed.

[Ateh]

Ok , dont mean to sound ignorant but ive never PKd and therefore cant quite get my head around why everyone needs privacy for PK. Can someone be nice and explain why its necessary.

 

I cant understand what advantage anyone can have over you if they know your stats ? I mean surely people use pots regardless of who they are fighting. Would it matter if they knew your abilitys or not ? EIther way one of you is going to die or diss.

 

It would be good to hear why the privacy thing is deemed necessary for PK tho please , cos it would enlighten me alot

[Aislinn]

I don't see a reason for such thing. It would be much better if this privacy thing is completely removed.

Absolutely agree.

[Tempest]

honestly i like the idea but i kinda also see ais/kibs point. u know if this will be implemented by learners service as u mentioned then everyone is gonna buy privacy for a/d, and will enable/disable it in other skills as he wants. so basicly someday the whole a/d toplist will prolly be private.

 

 

EDIT: voted for first point, i like it.

 

 

EDIT to ateh: well people can hide their a/d pretty well, pots + exp u get aint always easy to calculate for everyone so people are wildly guessing the a/d range. some people still think im 140 a/d even tho i tried to explain them like 10 times im not just cuz i have this privacy thingy and much coord/reasoning.

Edited March 13, 2008 by Tempest

[Cissysauce]

Ok , dont mean to sound ignorant but ive never PKd and therefore cant quite get my head around why everyone needs privacy for PK. Can someone be nice and explain why its necessary.

 

I cant understand what advantage anyone can have over you if they know your stats ? I mean surely people use pots regardless of who they are fighting. Would it matter if they knew your abilitys or not ? EIther way one of you is going to die or diss.

 

It would be good to hear why the privacy thing is deemed necessary for PK tho please , cos it would enlighten me alot

 

Well without giving away any secrets . Knowing your opponents a/d (and maybe other levels?) does give you a slight advantage in PK. Some of the more obvious reasons is that it could help to determine what capes, weapons, summons etc. you need to bring. So by keeping certain ranks private it takes that advantage away from my opponent. While private ranks are not required to properly pk, some people prefer it. There may be other reasons as well

 

With all due respect, this thread was not meant to be a discussion on whether or not private rank should be allowed. This is a service already in the game and I dont see it being taken out.

 

So most likely if you aren't already interested in having any of your ranks private, then you wouldn't be interested in the additional service

[Dilly]

I too voted no, as I am with the others who think rankings shouldn´t be private.

 

EDIT:

Ok, then let me specify:

You ask us, ALL of us, what we would think of Customizing Privacy Ranking.

 

As the answer of MY choice isn´t there, I had to go for the one closest to it, and then I felt the need to explain why, even if only very briefly.

 

Personally I would say: If you dont want to show your stats, fine, but then dont expect to be on any topplayer list. But that is just 1 simple woman´s thought, and that is not what your poll is about. Matter of fact, if a majority of people would be up for your idea and Teh Godness and his Learner would decide to implement it, it would be all the same to me.

But I cannot, and will not submit to being limited to just the options you give in your poll without explaining further because neither of them cover it for me.

 

I do applause your initiative though!

Edited March 13, 2008 by dilloesional

[Cissysauce]

I too voted no, as I am with the others who think rankings shouldn´t be private.

 

 

LOL ok I'm sorry maybe I should not have even put no as an option. This thread was only intended to see if there was any interest in such a service & clearly there are at least a few people who ARE interested in it.

 

I apologize for even starting a debate about something that is already implemented

Edited March 13, 2008 by Cissysauce

[PaulB]

The idea is really not that complicated. You pay for your stats to be private so you can "PK".

 

Now you want your cake and to eat it too?

 

Also I can understand why people mention what they think about the ranking system because you asked this. . .

 

 

So what do you guys think?

 

Now even though the responses were not directly involved with custom ranks there opinions are not off-topic.

 

 

I think that if this system of custom ranks is implimented then it nulifies the purpose of rank hiding.

 

 

Allthough if a charge were to follow custom ranks then that would mean more "bricks" for the developers.

 

I guess there are pros and cons to this idea IMO.

Edited March 13, 2008 by Paul Brown

[robotbob]

This is too funny.

 

The point was to see if anyone had interest in another Learner service and

it grows into a privacy debate. The ranks page is a Learner service, opting out, by payment

is another service.

 

Being able to selectively opt out is the new service in question.

 

Learner's ranks page is not part of the game. Just an interesting side option for grinders to

see where they stand, and it -already- exists.

 

I think this thread is a mini memorial to why every minor change in the game is met with

reactionary idiotic debates.

[Sir_Exeus]

teh no way....

[masterpiter]

It would be good to hear why the privacy thing is deemed necessary for PK tho please , cos it would enlighten me alot

Its way harder for ppl to figure out perks and attributes u got, and ur oa lvl ( Unless their friend is a mod who can check on ur stats even if privacy is on anyways )

 

Also quite nice at name changing, u change name, go full priv and for 1st few weeks many ppl think ur newbie, so they attack u and u can slay them like beavers

 

I liked that there was no privacy long time ago, i could see what stats top players have, now newbies dont have that comfort

[Kaddy]

It was way more better when we had top lists showing levels. (tho it was around 3 years ago iirc )

 

But anyway, i wont vote now.

 

 

Can someone please tell me why we have PRIVACY? this is a game not RL lol!

[PaulB]

Its way harder for ppl to figure out perks and attributes u got, and ur oa lvl ( Unless their friend is a mod who can check on ur stats even if privacy is on anyways )

 

This should be against game rules for MODs to give info to friends.

 

There is a reason there is #set_privacy on.

 

And I am sure it wasnt meant for MOD friends to abuse there power and fill you in.

[LabRat]

voted no.

I display my stats proudly. See below.

[Aislinn]

Its way harder for ppl to figure out perks and attributes u got, and ur oa lvl ( Unless their friend is a mod who can check on ur stats even if privacy is on anyways )

 

This should be against game rules for MODs to give info to friends.

 

There is a reason there is #set_privacy on.

 

And I am sure it wasnt meant for MOD friends to abuse there power and fill you in.

[LabRat]

You put it so much more eloquently than I could \o/

[Aislinn]

I think this thread is a mini memorial to why every minor change in the game is met with

reactionary idiotic debates.

Apparently you misunderstand as usual. I voted "No, I would not be interested." for the reason I stated above.

[robotbob]

I think this thread is a mini memorial to why every minor change in the game is met with

reactionary idiotic debates.

Apparently you misunderstand as usual.

I voted "No, I would not be interested." for the reason I stated above.

 

It was not directed at you. Its directed to those who already use learner's services.(the thread)

As for the pointless debate, its stands.

 

Edit: Again, the question was to people that use Learners privacy services

and not to those who never use or ever plan to use Learner's original service.

Edited March 13, 2008 by robotbob

[ville-v]

I think this thread is a mini memorial to why every minor change in the game is met with

reactionary idiotic debates.

Apparently you misunderstand as usual.

I voted "No, I would not be interested." for the reason I stated above.

 

It was not directed at you. Its directed to those who already use learner's services.(the thread)

As for the pointless debate, its stands.

 

Edit: Again, the question was to people that use Learners privacy services

and not to those who never use or ever plan to use Learner's original service.

The only thing that matters is amount of people who do vote the first option.

 

As this will only affect people who are interested in using this additional service that is not related to game at all, amount of people voting other options will not affect anything. So why bother?

[Walt-Her]

imho stats are tp be proud of and don't really matter in pk (correct me if i am wrong)

On the other hand, attributes can make a big difference, even more now with the caps and ppl can build so diverse.

 

I would go for 2 forms of privacy then,

full privacy no stats no attributes

privacy only stats no attributes

 

this way you wont have to choose about what you want to be displayed and pk'ers still can hide teh way they are build.

[Vanyel]

( Unless their friend is a mod who can check on ur stats even if privacy is on anyways )

 

How good you're playing in a PK server where there are absolutely no deceitful, dishonest, terrible, sucking, stupid, boring, irritating, etc. etc. etc. moderators.

 

 

http://www.eternal-lands.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=40937

http://www.eternal-lands.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=40324

http://www.eternal-lands.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=41132

 

Or something like this.

Edited March 14, 2008 by Vanyel

[Learner]

Ok, looks like there might be enough interest in people being able to be a little less private on the Top & Rankings pages. I'll look more seriously into what it will take to set this up including giving the players control of what is private and what isn't private.

 

One note, to keep things simple, your password fo accessing your Rankings page will also be used for controlling what is private. This means if anyone has shared their password for Rankings and wants to use this feature, they may want to change the password at that time.