quote aislinn

[scarr]

  PK Contests will be starting up again. 

 

However: These are the rules, if you do not want to abide by these rules then you will NOT be allowed to have a contest announced.

 

1) NO LIMITS!!! All participants are responsible for looking up all player stats themselves and knowing what they are getting into.

 

2) Summoning is allowed.

 

3) Spectators enter at your own risk, newbie or not. Read the warning in red when you enter a pk map. You most likely will die, we cannot protect you.

 

4) Anybody entering a pk map is responsible for their own items or loss of said items. Nothing is guaranteed for anybody, pk means you die and lose stuff. Do NOT go reporting this in abuse.

 

5) Mods/NH's are at liberty to refuse a contest if they do not find it appropriate.

 

6) IMPORTANT: If you are found to be holding contests for the sole purpose of looting and cheating, you WILL go on a blacklist and will be banned from holding any more contests. If you do not give the winner the promised prize, you also will go on the blacklist.

 

What about Wars with lvl limit and summon limit?

[crusadingknight]

  PK Contests will be starting up again. 

 

However: These are the rules, if you do not want to abide by these rules then you will NOT be allowed to have a contest announced.

 

1) NO LIMITS!!! All participants are responsible for looking up all player stats themselves and knowing what they are getting into.

 

2) Summoning is allowed.

 

3) Spectators enter at your own risk, newbie or not. Read the warning in red when you enter a pk map. You most likely will die, we cannot protect you.

 

4) Anybody entering a pk map is responsible for their own items or loss of said items. Nothing is guaranteed for anybody, pk means you die and lose stuff. Do NOT go reporting this in abuse.

 

5) Mods/NH's are at liberty to refuse a contest if they do not find it appropriate.

 

6) IMPORTANT: If you are found to be holding contests for the sole purpose of looting and cheating, you WILL go on a blacklist and will be banned from holding any more contests. If you do not give the winner the promised prize, you also will go on the blacklist.

 

What about Wars with lvl limit and summon limit?

I don't think this applies to wars, but that's really up to the organizer.

[Placid]

I agree with CK. Wars are different to everyday run-of-the-mill PK contests. I believe Aislinn referring to everyday PK contests, not Wars in particular.

[ssjgohan]

i don't like the idea of no lvl limit and summoning allowed i would get owned by fluffys and chims + even donpedro could come kill me xD

[Aislinn]

These rules have nothing to do with wars. This is for the everyday ordinary pk contests people like to have. The wars will have their own set of predetermined rules.

@ssjgohan--I'm sorry but it is non-negotiable. Rules are a direct issue from Entropy.

[jakie]

Its good that they're back, but NO LIMIT sucks.

 

It just CAN'T work out well.

 

I know its non-negotiable but still...

I dont think anyone lower then top5 fighters will do contests now.

[scarr]

Just pm the strong players befor eu start a contest and ask them to not come . Lol.

[jakie]

what if someone like LV wanna do contest like he did before sometimes.

 

he gotta PM allmost whole EL then

[MoJo]

Yea..... sorry to say but "no Lvl Limit" will drag the ammount of pk contests to like nil.... <_< i mean i like to have wars with guys around my level... just to put a bit of competion for me.. i mean like a war with guys around my levle and 80's,90's guys.. theres just no competion for lower leveled people.. <_<

 

so i dissagree with no level limit. . .

[SirKillAlot]

Anyone who has ever held a PK contest knows that these rules are wrong, and will never work.

[RolandR1]

Anyone who has ever held a PK contest knows that these rules are wrong, and will never work.

ya <_< this suxs crap!!

[scarr]

ownz

[jakie]

Mods. plz. dont you see thats you are wrong :S??

 

you arent that stupid right?

 

there been like 5 contests AT MOST since the new rules..

just make it so that Level Limit and wheter to summon yes/no

is allowed to choose by the contest makers.

 

PK Contests were the best things in EL, and you just throw them away :S

 

plz change it.

[Aislinn]

Mods didn't make these rules, Entropy did. Sorry.

[SirKillAlot]

Ent doesn't even play his own game. :\

[crannog]

Mods. plz. dont you see thats you are wrong :S??

 

you arent that stupid right?

 

there been like 5 contests AT MOST since the new rules..

just make it so that Level Limit and wheter to summon yes/no

is allowed to choose by the contest makers.

 

PK Contests were the best things in EL, and you just throw them away :S

 

plz change it.

The rules were changed for very good reasons

 

perhaps if "you" players didnt abuse it, or complain every time there was a contest it could have continued.

 

If you want PK contests, come up with some original ideas in events forum for them.

[SirKillAlot]

Or quit fighting because you can't win.

[The_Piper]

Or quit fighting because you can't win.

Lol, didnt you quit this game some days ago?

 

Piper

[Ghrae]

There were no level limits that I remember during the early days of EL. Perhaps the players have grown soft.

[Gen_Axis]

Well, seems another good thing in game died... because the only ppl that can run those contests now are TOP 5 in a/d and they usually don't need to make any (they got enough challenges)... so it seems rest of players just got banned from pk contests, unless someone make a war contest, but then you can't even win anything...

[The_Pale_Elf]

Well, no limits allowed, you can't whine about losing anything, and rule number 6 is gonna be a bitch to prove. Assuming that all contest holders are on the up and up, some high level PKer is gonna hear the announcement and wait for some fresh meat. That's what PK maps are for, is it not? PKontests are just a lure to get people to come to PK maps that wouldn't normally come anyway.

 

And yeah, it is kinda funny that Ent makes hard and fast rules in a game he doesn't even play. But I found that argument goes nowhere, so I won't bring it up here. And while some of the mods, hell maybe most of the mods, realize this new way isn't a good way, it isn't their call... And the one whose call it is, is unaffected by his own rules. Define irony for me?

 

I remember when I started playing that LV held those damn PKontests, maybe 10 of em a day or more, and the #BC spam was annoying as hell. Then I see the forums pasted up one side and down the other about how he was looting, people were mad because they didn't get their stuff, and I'm thinking, "do people just think LV can magically teleport all their belongings to them? It is PK land afterall". Of course, he did post that items would be returned, which was a bad idea as we've all seen. Has there been a good side to PKontests?

 

So, there needs to be some sort of game mechanic, maybe installed in the arena, where you can be PK'ed, and you will lose nothing when you die. Doesn't have to be big, doesn't have to lead to resources, doesn't have to be open all the time, maybe just when mods are throwing one of these contests. Otherwise, they're a terrible idea, because your general population don't wanna run in and lose everything, even for a free P L A T E mail armor.

 

general population don't wanna run in and lose everything, even for a free sunshineemail armor.

 

EDIT: Wth happened there? lol. Aparently when you type P L A T E mail, it changes it? Is there a reason for this? ...nevermind, I just figured it out. Apparently someone's name is a part of the armor, and her name is now a curseword, lol.

Edited March 29, 2005 by The_Pale_Elf

[Ghrae]

Level Limits do not work. I don't know why you ever fooled yourself into believing otherwise.

 

On one side we had the guy who was a/d 55/55 who called for limits of 47/47. He kills a bunch of contenders and takes all their stuff. Slowly he raises the allowable limit and continues to take more peoples stuff as they die. Eventually he is killed, but he now has a lot more stuff than he lost. Esentially he held the PK contest only to get other people's stuff. Is this fair?

 

On another side we have a legitimate contest. The PKer has an a/d of 30/30 and has a limit of the same (30/30). Someone has reset recently and been taking some negative perks and is only 27/27 but has p/c of 40/40. The legitimate contest is over quickly b/c someone used a supped up p/c to win. Is this fair?

 

And at the same time, everyone screams at the mods/NH: I want a limit - you need to enforce it!!! How? I mean, by the time we check someone's stats, they already came in an attacked. Let me tell you something everyone: we don't have some special powers that allow us to see people's stats in game. So we struggle to keep up monitoring the challengers and as soon as someone sneaks in faster than we can verify we get yelled at.

 

So what happened? All the abuse and the impossibility of monitoring levels led us to return to the PK contests of old: no limits.

[Aislinn]

Yep Kit, that pretty much sums it up.

[bofred]

thats a good sum-up !!

 

but still the amount of contests has gone very low, which is very pitiful, coz 50% of my iron-sunshinee-stuff is from contests. how about reinstatinmg limits AND tell every1 that he is responsible for himself checking the opponents stats AND beeing able to use dis/teleport-rings to evade a PK-map if u get in struggle with some non-pk-contest-player. u still can ask some1 for bodygaurd u to the place of interest !!

 

i think doing PK is quite much linked to be a good player that could handle it, so try my idea

[Ghrae]

Doesn't work like that Bofred. I wish it did.

 

Whichever Mod / NH that calls a contest is responsible for it. Even if that were not a rule, that is how it is received by the game players. That's why so many contests have "No PMs" because as soon as we broadcast a contest, everyone in EL (sometimes all at once) decides to PM us. And when things don't go they way they want (i.e. get lost, didn't win, etc...) we get PM'd about it.

 

I'm sure the regular PKers out there are aware of the "Enter at your own risk" nature of these contests, but that doesn't cover the entire EL population.

 

Perhaps get creative: don't worry about one-on-one PK, but groups. Maybe, "Guild xx is at the fort... first to kill player xx and survive the guards wins prizes."