My Solution To The Economy Prob..

[Tropicano]

okay.. yet another suggestion about how to save/fix the economy once 'n for all.. The only items that are still rare, and will remain rare nomatter what happens are enriched essences.. those are currently used to manufacture: tit longs, tit serps, iton graves, iron cuisses, iron plate. Thats about all im aware of. This results in the following: most of these items (above) are quite valuable and rare.. for example the iron plate.. The only thing keeping the iron plate as rare as it is is the amount of efe needed to make it, 2. 2 efes - thats a lot of hours spent by some poor dude making alchemy. The tit long on the other hand, that requires 1 efe, goes for about 2k on the market, wich is hopelessly sick... A efe let alone is worth about 5k, and when forged into a tit long it drops to 2k.. this is only bacue of the amount of tit longs droped by monsters, cycs.. Remove that drop to increase the marketvalue of that weapon. Also i think there should be some slight adjustments in the ingreds of the followin items:

 

Iron Plate = 3 efe (currently 2)

Iron Cuisses = 2 efe (currently 1)

Tit Serp = 3 efe (currently 1)

 

and also, trik needs to get taken back in the equation. Without trik, there will never be a minimum market value. If trik buys a tit long for lets say 5k, the market price will be at least 6-7k. And this wont fuck up the economy, since you need EFEs to manufacture these weapons and armors. Trik should even buy capes if you ask me...

[Tropicano]

i know the prices wouldnt raise over night, since there still is quite a big amount of items in the game.. but as time goes, and those items break down - the prices will slowly raise... and if trik is in the image, ppl will sell the items they dont need to him, wich will clear the game from alot of unused weapons/armors and make room for new ones

[Daxon]

The prices will raise on their own soon with time. You could raise the tit long EFE cost to 20 and it's still going to be 2k for a long time (I remember someone saying they have 39 of these stored away).

 

The EFE price on these other items is as bad as it can get as it is. Funny how the description of the serpent stone is "a magic stone used for making titanium swords and armors," yet only one item uses them.

[I_am_Spock]

i know the prices wouldnt raise over night, since there still is quite a big amount of items in the game.. but as time goes, and those items break down - the prices will slowly raise... and if trik is in the image, ppl will sell the items they dont need to him, wich will clear the game from alot of unused weapons/armors and make room for new ones

wrong i have 50 steel longsword in storage and they'll never get sold.

[freeone3000]

Hence the Trik thing. So it would raise prices and flush out all the items? Good. THen prices would raise a lot.

Edited January 6, 2005 by freeone3000

[shasso]

Well if you ask me, the prices are good atm (approx. 20k for plate, 10k for cuisses and 10k for greaves) This efe thing was a good idea and it will keep these prices up, maybe they will get even higher because more efe will go into serp production, when the current stock breaks. And because plate armour likes to break too, 3 efe would make it too expensive for use.

There was a huge stock of tit longs, not only from drops, but manufacturers were making them while noobs were after serps. Now they buy tit longs, manufacturers dont make them anymore and atm there is not that many people killing cyclops, so the price should go up a bit after a while.

Cape prices are steady atm, I think fighters will rather just keep them than sell underprice. Trik buying them would help, yes, but since the list of the items that he buys is getting shorter to reduce money inflow it would be weird that developers suddenly turned it the other way..

[Tropicano]

well, adding EFEs to the production of most items. would lower the amount of items being made, and therefor if trik got activated the mone wouldnt juet be thrown back in the game as thery were last time. and ive also heard roja speak about making the manufacturing much more realistic, taking a long time just to manufacture one single sword etc... that would lower the amount of items being made even further. With all these parts going right, activating trik might not be such a dumb itea..

[Daxon]

well, adding EFEs to the production of most items. would lower the amount of items being made, and therefor if trik got activated the mone wouldnt juet be thrown back in the game as thery were last time. and ive also heard roja speak about making the manufacturing much more realistic, taking a long time just to manufacture one single sword etc... that would lower the amount of items being made even further. With all these parts going right, activating trik might not be such a dumb itea..

And then the cost for those items will become ridiculously high, making the common man without a single titanium long. Yeah. Let me guess what the next step in the process is.. reducing EFE production to 1/20000. Then you all will have your goal done: 80k for iron plate, 60k for serp, 40k for tit longs.

[Paladin]

What really needs to be done is decrease drasticaly the chances for book drops, any book. Since the market is limited, as a book once read can't be destroyed or lost, soon enough every1 has read every book he needs, and there's not a big supply of newbies to sell the books. Don said that he let some tit axe books in bags, because they were pretty useless.

 

I think the chances for every book drop should be lowered by a factor of 10, or maybe 100, but it's probably too late, since there are so many books in storage and ppl read them already.

 

 

 

Edited: To doplerein post(below) and to all that say that items should be made harder to get:

 

 

Why the hell do you want to make serps/iron plates harder to get, and piss most ppl off?

 

So much better to make NEW, better items that are harder to get, that way every1 would be sooo happy.

Edited January 8, 2005 by Paladin

[Dorplein]

well, adding EFEs to the production of most items. would lower the amount of items being made, and therefor if trik got activated the mone wouldnt juet be thrown back in the game as thery were last time. and ive also heard roja speak about making the manufacturing much more realistic, taking a long time just to manufacture one single sword etc... that would lower the amount of items being made even further. With all these parts going right, activating trik might not be such a dumb itea..

And then the cost for those items will become ridiculously high, making the common man without a single titanium long. Yeah. Let me guess what the next step in the process is.. reducing EFE production to 1/20000. Then you all will have your goal done: 80k for iron plate, 60k for serp, 40k for tit longs.

I think that would be great....now everyone has a serp. I think you should work for you serp and that it should take atleast 2 months to get a serp.

[Beorn]

No Tropicano! Don't do that then it would be impossible to get any plate armor. I know you are just trying to save the el economy but please dont let them implement that.

[Daxon]

well, adding EFEs to the production of most items. would lower the amount of items being made, and therefor if trik got activated the mone wouldnt juet be thrown back in the game as thery were last time. and ive also heard roja speak about making the manufacturing much more realistic, taking a long time just to manufacture one single sword etc... that would lower the amount of items being made even further. With all these parts going right, activating trik might not be such a dumb itea..

And then the cost for those items will become ridiculously high, making the common man without a single titanium long. Yeah. Let me guess what the next step in the process is.. reducing EFE production to 1/20000. Then you all will have your goal done: 80k for iron plate, 60k for serp, 40k for tit longs.

I think that would be great....now everyone has a serp. I think you should work for you serp and that it should take atleast 2 months to get a serp.

I hope you're not saying I didn't work for my tit serps.

[Guest skaar]

making trik not buying stuff and changing to the manu system wouldnt solve the market problem, it force another problem.

 

trik not buys s2e or tit shorts (only tit without efe atm). but u need to manu that stuff to get up manu. so u have a lot of swords which r worthless (cause no1 buys it).

 

the only way to make swords (with lvl 20) and get up manu is the iron broad sword. but no player will buy (now and on the planed system), so trik is the only solution to get a bit of ur invested money back.

 

and changes to manu system will force that newbs or untrained manuers cant get up when manu takes too long - manuers which now have lvl 30+ will be gods. also when u need efe for the most stuff - how should ppl get up ??????

 

so the only ppl which will be able to manu r the guys which do at moment and this wouldnt solve the market problem. ppl who now buy the expensiv stuff like serps and graves r the rich and exp. players - i didnt see a newb with an serp since the old changing nor i see a newb with an plate mail.