Elke

While it's (of course) listed correctly in the read-out as generated from the server-data, it's IMHO still a bug therein. It should be fixed to require the corresponding indicator knowledge. So this is really more a real (server-side) bug than a documentation bug in the encyclopedia.

Claim: Alphabet - 5k Gypsum (50k) [bATCH 4B] Avalanche - 10k Emeralds (30k) [bATCH 3] delivered: Demitry - 10k Sapphire (32k) VinoVeritas - 10k Red Toadstool (22k) [bATCH 3] ready for delivery: Sneaky - 20k Sunflowers (15k) [bATCH 2]

ready for delivery: Sneaky - 20k Sunflowers (15k) [bATCH 2] Demitry - 10k Sapphire (32k) VinoVeritas - 10k Red Toadstool (22k) [bATCH 3]

delivered: Marnick - 10k Poison Ivy (20k) [bATCH 1] ready for delivery: Sneaky - 20k Sunflowers (15k) [bATCH 2] still working on: Demitry - 10k Sapphire (32k) claim: VinoVeritas - 10k Red Toadstool (22k) [bATCH 3]

On my ubuntu laptop EL seems to fail very frequently with either 'invalid memory access' or 'invalid machine code' (or 'invalid instruction' - I need to translate back to English). Unfortunately the backtrace from gdb attached to el is not very helpful: planetmaker@etesia:~/eternal-lands/el194$ sudo gdb -p3137 gdb: Unbekannte Option »-p3137« Use `gdb --help' for a complete list of options. planetmaker@etesia:~/eternal-lands/el194$ sudo gdb -p 3137 GNU gdb (Ubuntu 7.7.1-0ubuntu5~14.04.2) 7.7.1 Copyright (C) 2014 Free Software Foundation, Inc. License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later <http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html> This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it. There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. Type "show copying" and "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "x86_64-linux-gnu". Type "show configuration" for configuration details. For bug reporting instructions, please see: <http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/bugs/>. Find the GDB manual and other documentation resources online at: <http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/documentation/>. For help, type "help". Type "apropos word" to search for commands related to "word". Attaching to process 3137 Reading symbols from /home/planetmaker/eternal-lands/el194/el.x86_x64.linux.bin...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Reading symbols from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/mesa/libGL.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/mesa/libGL.so.1 Reading symbols from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0...Reading symbols from /usr/lib/debug//lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread-2.19.so...done. done. [New LWP 3146] [New LWP 3142] [New LWP 3141] [New LWP 3140] [New LWP 3139] [New LWP 3138] [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] Using host libthread_db library "/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libthread_db.so.1". Loaded symbols for /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6 Reading symbols from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libgcc_s.so.1 Reading symbols from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6...Reading symbols from /usr/lib/debug//lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc-2.19.so...done. done. Loaded symbols for /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 Reading symbols from /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2...Reading symbols from /usr/lib/debug//lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/ld-2.19.so...done. done. Loaded symbols for /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11.so.6 Reading symbols from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6...Reading symbols from /usr/lib/debug//lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm-2.19.so...done. done. Loaded symbols for /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6 Reading symbols from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2...Reading symbols from /usr/lib/debug//lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl-2.19.so...done. done. Loaded symbols for /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXau.so.6...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXau.so.6 Reading symbols from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libexpat.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libexpat.so.1 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglapi.so.0...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libglapi.so.0 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXext.so.6...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXext.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXdamage.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXdamage.so.1 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXfixes.so.3...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXfixes.so.3 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11-xcb.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libX11-xcb.so.1 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb-glx.so.0...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb-glx.so.0 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb-dri2.so.0...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb-dri2.so.0 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb-dri3.so.0...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb-dri3.so.0 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb-present.so.0...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb-present.so.0 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb-sync.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb-sync.so.1 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxcb.so.1 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxshmfence.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libxshmfence.so.1 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXxf86vm.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXxf86vm.so.1 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdrm.so.2...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdrm.so.2 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXdmcp.so.6...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXdmcp.so.6 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gconv/ISO8859-1.so...Reading symbols from /usr/lib/debug//usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gconv/ISO8859-1.so...done. done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/gconv/ISO8859-1.so Reading symbols from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXrender.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXrender.so.1 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXrandr.so.2...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXrandr.so.2 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXcursor.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libXcursor.so.1 Reading symbols from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libudev.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libudev.so.1 Reading symbols from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcgmanager.so.0...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcgmanager.so.0 Reading symbols from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnih.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnih.so.1 Reading symbols from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnih-dbus.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnih-dbus.so.1 Reading symbols from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdbus-1.so.3...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdbus-1.so.3 Reading symbols from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/librt.so.1...Reading symbols from /usr/lib/debug//lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/librt-2.19.so...done. done. Loaded symbols for /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/librt.so.1 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i965_dri.so...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i965_dri.so Reading symbols from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdrm_intel.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdrm_intel.so.1 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdrm_nouveau.so.2...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdrm_nouveau.so.2 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdrm_radeon.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdrm_radeon.so.1 Reading symbols from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpciaccess.so.0...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpciaccess.so.0 Reading symbols from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.so.1...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.so.1 Reading symbols from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnss_files.so.2...Reading symbols from /usr/lib/debug//lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnss_files-2.19.so...done. done. Loaded symbols for /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnss_files.so.2 Reading symbols from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnss_myhostname.so.2...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnss_myhostname.so.2 Reading symbols from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnss_mdns4_minimal.so.2...(no debugging symbols found)...done. Loaded symbols for /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnss_mdns4_minimal.so.2 Reading symbols from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnss_dns.so.2...Reading symbols from /usr/lib/debug//lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnss_dns-2.19.so...done. done. Loaded symbols for /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libnss_dns.so.2 Reading symbols from /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libresolv.so.2...Reading symbols from /usr/lib/debug//lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libresolv-2.19.so...done. done. Loaded symbols for /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libresolv.so.2 __memcpy_sse2_unaligned () at ../sysdeps/x86_64/multiarch/memcpy-sse2-unaligned.S:134 134 ../sysdeps/x86_64/multiarch/memcpy-sse2-unaligned.S: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden. Traceback (most recent call last): File "/usr/share/gdb/auto-load/usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libstdc++.so.6.0.19-gdb.py", line 63, in <module> from libstdcxx.v6.printers import register_libstdcxx_printers ImportError: No module named 'libstdcxx' (gdb) continue Continuing. Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x00007f88950ee700 in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i965_dri.so (gdb) bt #0 0x00007f88950ee700 in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i965_dri.so #1 0x00007f88950b7d03 in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i965_dri.so #2 0x00007f8895037d36 in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i965_dri.so #3 0x00007f8894e7d6e3 in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i965_dri.so #4 0x00007f8894e6078a in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i965_dri.so #5 0x00007f8894e60bf5 in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i965_dri.so #6 0x00007f8894e61103 in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i965_dri.so #7 0x00007f8894e628c3 in ?? () from /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/dri/i965_dri.so #8 0x0000000000459151 in ?? () #9 0x00000000004710ee in ?? () #10 0x00000000004530a9 in ?? () #11 0x0000000000453394 in ?? () #12 0x0000000000447266 in ?? () #13 0x00000000004885f8 in ?? () #14 0x00000000004886d4 in ?? () #15 0x00007f88998f8ec5 in __libc_start_main (main=0x488660, argc=1, argv=0x7ffd8975d208, init=<optimized out>, fini=<optimized out>, rtld_fini=<optimized out>, stack_end=0x7ffd8975d1f8) at libc-start.c:287 #16 0x000000000040e4f9 in ?? () #17 0x00007ffd8975d1f8 in ?? () #18 0x000000000000001c in ?? () #19 0x0000000000000001 in ?? () #20 0x00007ffd8975e328 in ?? () #21 0x0000000000000000 in ?? () I'll try and see whether I can come up with more info and post here as it comes available. System config: Linux version 3.13.0-57-generic (buildd@brownie) (gcc version 4.8.2 (Ubuntu 4.8.2-19ubuntu1) ) #95-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jun 19 09:28:15 UTC 2015 planetmaker@etesia:~/eternal-lands/el194$ LC_ALL=C lshw -c video WARNING: you should run this program as super-user. *-display description: VGA compatible controller product: Broadwell-U Integrated Graphics vendor: Intel Corporation physical id: 2 bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0 version: 09 width: 64 bits clock: 33MHz capabilities: vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom configuration: driver=i915 latency=0 resources: irq:67 memory:f6000000-f6ffffff memory:e0000000-efffffff ioport:f000(size=64) WARNING: output may be incomplete or inaccurate, you should run this program as super-user. planetmaker@etesia:~/eternal-lands/el194$ LC_ALL=C lshw -c cpu WARNING: you should run this program as super-user. *-cpu product: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-5500U CPU @ 2.40GHz vendor: Intel Corp. physical id: 1 bus info: cpu@0 size: 500MHz capacity: 500MHz width: 64 bits capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx pdpe1gb rdtscp x86-64 constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc aperfmperf eagerfpu pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx est tm2 ssse3 fma cx16 xtpr pdcm pcid sse4_1 sse4_2 x2apic movbe popcnt tsc_deadline_timer aes xsave avx f16c rdrand lahf_lm abm 3dnowprefetch ida arat epb xsaveopt pln pts dtherm tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid fsgsbase tsc_adjust bmi1 avx2 smep bmi2 erms invpcid rdseed adx smap cpufreq WARNING: output may be incomplete or inaccurate, you should run this program as super-user.

Not that I know. Crash and hacked are different things in my book and I have no reason to doubt the word I was given

I got information from the person who owns el-wiki.net that it was a server crash, but that all data are recovered; however configuration still needs careful checking. Yaka as site admin would look at it this coming weekend.

+1 to not introducing peace-removal stone.

Ready for delivery: Marnick - 10k Poison Ivy (20k) [bATCH 1] Claim: Demitry - 10k Sapphire (32k) Sneaky - 20k Sunflowers (15k) [bATCH 2]

what about to grant a person as long immunity to *all* damage and treat the person as non-existant in terms of combat as long as s/he didn't move from their entry point?

Well, several people did it or tried it before the C2 invasion started. However agreed, it can be argued that it's not necessary to make it a portals invasion.

Delivered: VinoVeritas - 10k Wooden Logs (15k) [bATCH 4] Claim: Marnick - 10k Poison Ivy (20k) [bATCH 1]

Ready for delivery: VinoVeritas - 10k Wooden Logs (15k) [bATCH 4]

How high is the bus factor[1] for that service, i.e. how many people can continue it currently without major interruption of it occurring? [1]https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truck_Number

That's an idea which I like - and likely should be solvable by an if-statement on the server side - and possibly some refactoring which includes to pass a "from" or "reason" parameter to the function which evaluates whether a tile is free or not

Right, I didn't think of this kill method. I have to agree that this scenario definitely is not in the category of levelling the playground. EDIT: I guess slightly randomizing the entry points +-2 tiles or whatever is out of question? Or marking those areas as not-minable or no-engineering-zone?

Honestly, I don't see the point in reducing the effectiveness of engineering. Mines and bombs *do* kill pretty fast - irrespective of anyone's physique and agility. Reducing their effectiveness ingame only helps to widen the gap in PK even more - thus it effectively kills PK more than it's already (and there are constant complaints on that matter). It's good and fair if also lower level PKer can kill a top-geared full-pick point person - no need that anyone can walk the maps and think that s/he is virutally immune to harm.

Delivered: Jeff - 10k Sapphire (32k) [batch 2] Claim: VinoVeritas - 10k Wooden Logs (15k) [bATCH 4]

Is there any statistic on how often they *used* to break? I feel like it's breaking more often than before - but as you say - without some hard(er) statistical evidence it all boils down to be much more likely perception bias by a few users (including myself). If people have logs enabled, it probably is relatively easy to filter those in a scripted way for the events and the breakages.

changes this to Jeff - 10k Sapphire (32k) [bATCH 2] [RE-LISTED] list updated Aye

working on: VinoVeritas - 10k Red Toadstool (22k) [bATCH 3]

I use a self-compiled client 1.9.4-RC2 @ [secret] 1.9.4-rc2 default/master tip master 5720:ffaa4c140840 2015-04-07 23:06 +0100 (Paul Broadhead) | 1.9.4 version bumps for package and other build files. and seem to reliably get a crash (invalid memory access). It happens unattended; possibly triggers from a big harvesting event of other people nearby according to the screenshot. planetmaker@localhost:~/eternal-lands/el_linux$ gdb ./hgel GNU gdb (GDB) Fedora 7.7.1-21.fc20 Copyright © 2014 Free Software Foundation, Inc. License GPLv3+: GNU GPL version 3 or later <http://gnu.org/licenses/gpl.html> This is free software: you are free to change and redistribute it. There is NO WARRANTY, to the extent permitted by law. Type "show copying" and "show warranty" for details. This GDB was configured as "x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu". Type "show configuration" for configuration details. For bug reporting instructions, please see: <http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/bugs/>. Find the GDB manual and other documentation resources online at: <http://www.gnu.org/software/gdb/documentation/>. For help, type "help". Type "apropos word" to search for commands related to "word"... Reading symbols from ./hgel...done. (gdb) run Starting program: /home/planetmaker/eternal-lands/el_linux/hgel [Thread debugging using libthread_db enabled] Using host libthread_db library "/lib64/libthread_db.so.1". [New Thread 0x7fffe8198700 (LWP 5017)] [New Thread 0x7fffe7997700 (LWP 5018)] [New Thread 0x7fffe5e52700 (LWP 5019)] [New Thread 0x7fffe5651700 (LWP 5020)] [New Thread 0x7fffe4e50700 (LWP 5021)] [New Thread 0x7fffd7fff700 (LWP 5022)] [New Thread 0x7fffd77fe700 (LWP 5023)] [Thread 0x7fffd7fff700 (LWP 5022) exited] [New Thread 0x7fffd7fff700 (LWP 5024)] [Thread 0x7fffd7fff700 (LWP 5024) exited] [New Thread 0x7fffd7fff700 (LWP 5025)] [Thread 0x7fffd7fff700 (LWP 5025) exited] [New Thread 0x7fffd7fff700 (LWP 5026)] [Thread 0x7fffd7fff700 (LWP 5026) exited] [New Thread 0x7fffd7fff700 (LWP 5027)] [New Thread 0x7fffe420d700 (LWP 5028)] [New Thread 0x7fffbfffe700 (LWP 5029)] Program received signal SIGSEGV, Segmentation fault. 0x000000000042d896 in my_strncp (dest=0x2dec7e0 "", source=0x528 <error: Cannot access memory at address 0x528>, len=128) at asc.c:234 234 asc.c: Datei oder Verzeichnis nicht gefunden. Missing separate debuginfos, use: debuginfo-install SDL-1.2.15-13.fc20.x86_64 SDL_image-1.2.12-7.fc20.x86_64 SDL_net-1.2.8-4.fc20.x86_64 cal3d-0.11.0-15.fc20.x86_64 dbus-libs-1.6.30-1.fc20.x86_64 elfutils-libelf-0.161-6.fc20.x86_64 expat-2.1.0-7.fc20.x86_64 flac-libs-1.3.1-1.fc20.x86_64 glibc-2.18-19.fc20.x86_64 gsm-1.0.13-10.fc20.x86_64 jbigkit-libs-2.0-10.fc20.x86_64 json-c-0.11-6.fc20.x86_64 libICE-1.0.8-6.fc20.x86_64 libSM-1.2.1-6.fc20.x86_64 libX11-1.6.1-1.fc20.x86_64 libXau-1.0.8-2.fc20.x86_64 libXcursor-1.1.14-2.fc20.x86_64 libXdamage-1.1.4-4.fc20.x86_64 libXext-1.3.2-2.fc20.x86_64 libXfixes-5.0.1-2.fc20.x86_64 libXi-1.7.4-1.fc20.x86_64 libXrandr-1.4.1-2.fc20.x86_64 libXrender-0.9.8-2.fc20.x86_64 libXtst-1.2.2-2.fc20.x86_64 libXxf86vm-1.1.3-2.fc20.x86_64 libasyncns-0.8-6.fc20.x86_64 libattr-2.4.47-3.fc20.x86_64 libcap-2.22-7.fc20.x86_64 libdrm-2.4.58-1.fc20.x86_64 libffi-3.0.13-5.fc20.x86_64 libgcc-4.8.3-7.fc20.x86_64 libgcrypt-1.5.3-2.fc20.x86_64 libgpg-error-1.12-1.fc20.x86_64 libjpeg-turbo-1.3.1-3.fc20.x86_64 libogg-1.3.0-6.fc20.x86_64 libpng-1.6.6-3.fc20.x86_64 libselinux-2.2.1-6.fc20.x86_64 libsndfile-1.0.25-9.fc20.x86_64 libstdc++-4.8.3-7.fc20.x86_64 libtiff-4.0.3-15.fc20.x86_64 libuuid-2.24.2-2.fc20.x86_64 libvorbis-1.3.4-1.fc20.x86_64 libxcb-1.9.1-3.fc20.x86_64 libxml2-2.9.1-3.fc20.x86_64 llvm-libs-3.4-12.fc20.x86_64 mesa-dri-drivers-10.3.3-1.20141110.fc20.x86_64 mesa-libGL-10.3.3-1.20141110.fc20.x86_64 mesa-libGLU-9.0.0-5.fc20.x86_64 mesa-libglapi-10.3.3-1.20141110.fc20.x86_64 ncurses-libs-5.9-12.20130511.fc20.x86_64 nss-mdns-0.10-13.fc20.x86_64 openal-soft-1.16.0-2.fc20.x86_64 pcre-8.33-8.fc20.x86_64 pulseaudio-libs-5.0-25.fc20.x86_64 systemd-libs-208-30.fc20.x86_64 tcp_wrappers-libs-7.6-76.fc20.x86_64 xz-libs-5.1.2-12alpha.fc20.x86_64 zlib-1.2.8-3.fc20.x86_64 (gdb) bt full #0 0x000000000042d896 in my_strncp (dest=0x2dec7e0 "", source=0x528 <error: Cannot access memory at address 0x528>, len=128) at asc.c:234 No locals. #1 0x00000000004cdd1a in add_enhanced_actor_from_server ( in_data=0x7fffc40012f3 "O\001\066", len=45) at new_actors.c:945 actor_id = 335 buffs = 0 x_pos = 54 y_pos = 72 z_rot = 45 max_health = 330 cur_health = 257 actor_type = 42 skin = 5 '\005' hair = 6 '\006' eyes = 10 '\n' shirt = 50 '2' pants = 34 '"' boots = 15 '\017' frame = 7 '\a' cape = 13 '\r' head = 1 '\001' ---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit--- shield = 4 '\004' weapon = 32 ' ' helmet = 10 '\n' neck = 5 '\005' i = 3 dead = 0 kind_of_actor = 1 this_actor = 0x2debeb0 playerpath = "custom/player/snazzy/\000\000\000୭\000\000\000\000\000 \272\377\377\377\177\000\000\305P^\000\000\000\000\000\b\001\000\000\000\000\000\000P\272\377\377\377\177\000\000P\222\245\002\000\000\000\000୭\000\000\000\000\000@\272\377\377\377\177\000\000\030\062^\000\000\000\000\000P\272\377\377\377\177\000\000୭\000\000\000\000\000`\272\377\377\377\177\000\000\212\200_\000\000\000\000\000\240\364\330\002\000\000\000\000ଭ\000\000\000\000\000\300\272\377\377\377\177\000\000\264_]\000\000\000\000\000\n\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\021B\000\000\332A\000\000\332A\000\000\000\000\000\000\021\302\377\177\000\000\000\000\332A\000\000\000\000\000\000\021\302\000\000\000\000"... guildpath = "custom/guild/4728394/\000\243<uX\301>\036\000\000\000\000\000\200?\000\000\200?\000\000\200?\377\177\000\000\000\000\332A\000\000 A\000\000\021\302\377\177\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000 A\000\000\000\000\377\177\000\000\000\000\332A\000\000\000\000\000\000\021\302\000\200\377\377\n\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\002\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\062\000\000\000\377\177\000\000\230\373\330\002\000\000\000\000\b\001\000\000\000\000\000\000\250\201^\000\000\000---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit--- \000\000[\000\000\000n\000\000\000\230\373\330\002\000\000\000\000\220\271\377\377\377\177\000\000\346c^\000\000\000\000\000\240\271\377\377\377\177\000\000\230\373\330\002\000\000\000\000\260\271\377\377\377\177\000\000"... onlyname = "snazzy", '\000' <repeats 25 times> j = 6 uniq_id = 0 guild_id = 4728394 f_x_pos = 27 f_y_pos = 36 f_z_rot = 45 scale = 1 pose = 0x0 attachment_type = 255 __PRETTY_FUNCTION__ = "add_enhanced_actor_from_server" #2 0x00000000004c794b in process_message_from_server ( in_data=0x7fffc40012f0 "3.", data_length=48) at multiplayer.c:714 text_buf = "\017\300\377\377\377\177\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\030\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\201?\000\000\000\200\377\377\002", '\000' <repeats 15 times>, "\060", '\000' <repeats 15 times>, "\200\300\377\377\377\177\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000[\000\000\000n", '\000' <repeats 19 times>, "w\000\000\000|\000\000\000\177\300\377\377\377\177\000\000w\000\000\000|\000\000\000\217\300\377\377\377\177\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\320\300\377\377\377\177\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000\000[\000\000\000n", '\000' ---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit--- <repeats 19 times>, "`\a\034\365\377\177\000\000\030\000\000\000\000\000\000\000"... #3 0x00000000004b3ef0 in start_rendering () at main.c:185 message = 0x7fffc4000ee0 event = {type = 24 '\030', active = {type = 24 '\030', gain = 0 '\000', state = 0 '\000'}, key = {type = 24 '\030', which = 0 '\000', state = 0 '\000', keysym = {scancode = 1 '\001', sym = 4156121774, mod = (KMOD_LSHIFT | KMOD_RSHIFT | KMOD_LCTRL | KMOD_RCTRL | KMOD_LALT | KMOD_RALT | KMOD_LMETA | KMOD_RMETA | KMOD_NUM | KMOD_CAPS | KMOD_MODE | unknown: 60), unicode = 5050}}, motion = {type = 24 '\030', which = 0 '\000', state = 0 '\000', x = 1, y = 0, xrel = 25262, yrel = -2119}, button = {type = 24 '\030', which = 0 '\000', button = 0 '\000', state = 0 '\000', x = 1, y = 0}, jaxis = {type = 24 '\030', which = 0 '\000', axis = 0 '\000', value = 1}, jball = { type = 24 '\030', which = 0 '\000', ball = 0 '\000', xrel = 1, yrel = 0}, jhat = {type = 24 '\030', which = 0 '\000', hat = 0 '\000', value = 0 '\000'}, jbutton = {type = 24 '\030', which = 0 '\000', button = 0 '\000', state = 0 '\000'}, resize = { type = 24 '\030', w = 1, h = -138845522}, expose = { type = 24 '\030'}, quit = {type = 24 '\030'}, user = { type = 24 '\030', code = 1, data1 = 0x7ffff7b962ae <SDL_GetTicks+30>, data2 = 0x553013ba}, ---Type <return> to continue, or q <return> to quit--- syswm = {type = 24 '\030', msg = 0x7ffff7b962ae <SDL_GetTicks+30>}} done = 0 network_thread_data = {0x1c2a7f0, 0xac7a40 <done>} last_frame_and_command_update = 1061429 network_thread = 0x8279450 message_queue = 0x1c2a7f0 #4 0x00000000004b481f in main (argc=1, argv=0x7fffffffe1f8) at main.c:467 No locals.

No, I don't have those new textures. And yes, I do get that warning message. However either the missing textures should be a fatal thing which inhibits start-up (and give a proper message) - or EL should ignore the missing textures gracefully upon load and simply draw the un-changed textures as before. Crashing is not exactly a good option Thanks for the download link, though. I'll give it a try later and see how things work with the new eyes' textures.

Those sound like nice things indeed Maybe that could even be made a player-to-player challange: * one player (the quest giver) gives the location (map+coordinates and a hint text to an NPC). And those quests are then in a list or queue available for other players to hunt. * The quest giver would get a reward when the location is found only, but maybe lower reward when found by too many * The questing people would get a reward when they find the location

You know... the client is open source. You could start from that and implement it right there.