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I did the full quest including the part when you tell Luxin about the ... errm. That's after the lily part. I don't know if that is needed to buy leather, since the rules changed after I did the full quest, so, maybe is that.... Can it be, Grum?

Sorry Language betrayed me again :lol: Then we think the same

Yes, you are not the only one. There is another part for the quest for Kelcha's cheap leather. The problem is that, before (like 10 days ago or so) there was no need to the the last part of the quest. Since many days it is necesary, so all the people who did not the the full quest have now to complete it, any other way, you will not be able to buy leather anymore.

Programming any predefined behaviour to make some work w/o having to repeat all the steps by hand all the time... Yes, it is macroing. What's the fun in let your character go strong without your intervention??? Even more, the bots cant move nor attack anything unless it is explicity agreed by Entropy, it is forbidden also to make then gain experience in any other way unless it is for any explicit reason, and again, Entropy must agree with that. Also, all of them must be declared.

If you read the rules of EL you will know that exploiting bugs is illegal, and is explicitly said. As an illegal act, it can be punished the same as any other illegal act.

Supposing that you are certain: Tactics, my friend! If you think that pk is just brute force then you are complete n00b. I dont go into pk maps unless I want to die (sometimes it is fine )

That I thought Then we will wait. Thanks for the response and your work, Grum

I think you think of the water essences, yes, it is harder making them that getting the papers, that could be compared to the making the iron vars for the leather boots (it is harder than getting the leather) but anyway the cheap leather is a big help, as I think that would be the cheap sanding paper. -Regards

This is mainly for Grum, I think, that is who posted the latest changes in CVS for the tabs for the chat system. I find this very usefull and nice. The spam in the local chat was really annoying sometimes. I've used this for many hours, and, unlikely the windowed chat, I find this very promising. Just a couple of details. When you receive a pm you can see it regardless if you are in local or channel tab. Would it be possible to do the same for events like the harvesting random events (teleporting, cave walls, bees, rostogols...)? I ask because I don't know if there is a way to differenciate these parts or they are implemented as part of the local chat. For the rest I think this is lovely, but also to add a "general" tab that showed all the chat (like before, old style) would be nice, so people that find that way of using the game better can't complain about the tabs (or maybe a way to activate/deactivate tabs, dont know what would be easier to implement). Ah! Also the text is a bit near of the alpha shadow, maybe a line below of its actual position it would be more readable. -Regards and thanks for your work. I really appreciate it (and sorry for my english)

Well, developers are, as I said some other time, fast (or maybe they read my thoughts, :lol:). Two hours ago grum posted some new stuff in the CVS repository, and since now I don't have to worry anymore about the local chats. Nice tabs, thanks, and keep the good work!

The fact that non fighter players would be in disadvantage is evident, at least until very high levels. Maybe if there were any kind of distinction between classes the problem would be more easy to solve. For example, if the human nexus above 3 (fighters) were incompatible with mm perk. Then until then everybody can use the cape, but only true harvesters and alchemists that are not going to fight intensively can benefit from that perk on high levels, because they will not take human nexus higher than 3. Of course for that the perk would still need to be removed, but maybe then the cape could be cheaper, since only non high level fighters can use it. The idea is not as simple, it may have millions of side effects, but is another point of view, Just my 2034 cents :lol:

Fully agree with you, ttlanhil. The windowed mode is a pain in the ass to use when you are doing any other thing that chating. And if you slide the window thru the left border to free some space in your screen then you will not notice any message, weird, overall if it is a pm. The cleaner way to solve (but probably not the easiest) is the upper tabs idea that ttlanhil gave in the previous post, of course, without being windowed, just like now it is but with tabs. That and a system to notice when there is some new stuff in the tabs that are not visible, like some blinking titles and maybe a notification sound. An option to talk only in the actual tab would be nice also, but for that the local chat would have to be another single tab, what is fine, because the local chat is somewhat annoying, more than anything else. That would take rid of that problem also. I have seen many user complaining a bout the lack of any option to ignore the local chats.

I think another quest to get cheaper sanding paper would make the crafters life a bit more easy. I haven't gone so deep into crafting yet, but it seems to me like a pain. Opinions?

:lol: sMooMs, impressive!!! I like the MJ parts stuff. Funny

A bit more :lol: I feel it coming. Nice work