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Yes please. I would LOVE extended zoom. For the simple reason that I'm a ranger. It's quite annoying to have such a limited screen of view and toying with my camera to get a dragon in seight or something.

Sure i was lucky enough to again get a nexus removal BUT STIVY still holds the share from the previous drop, So he is still a scammer Oh ofc. Just a little face rub.

Drop: 16186 Gold Coins Drop: 1 Vegetal Removal Stone Drop: 2 Orange And 2 HOLAMS with an EFE drop to boot :> So vio finally got his share

To be honest this is one huge dick thing to do. Honestly, Violater as well as Incubus, myself and Stivy worked just as hard in that instance killing crap. IT was a team effort. We did it together and thes plit should be even and given no matter what the hell the justification is for why he shouldn't. I'd also like to point out that the "BS" that was supposedly said was a night or 2 after we got the nexus drop. The only one I saw being assanine and rude in the entire instance conversation was you Stivy. What you call Violater "bsing" was him looking out for us. because he thought you were trying to rip us off. When He called you out on every little thing you tried doing, you claimed it BS. So maybe you don't consider this scamming but what about.. not tallying up scales, or even not throwing in the 200gc p2p shop coupon. Wtf is that? Even if that takes away 2kgc from us that can be a make it or break it type of thing. It can determine whether I break even or if I make a little over. So seriously, lets not make this about vio's bs because really the only bullshit I saw flowing from anyone was you.

Drop: 36186 Gold Coins Drop: 1 Vegetal Removal Stone Drop: 2 Orange Ty EL gods for giving us this wonderful drop. Now we as a team offer it to you wonderful people of eternal lands :>. Auction: Vegetal Removal Stone Start Price: 700,000 Gold Coin Bid Increments: 10,000 gold coin Buy-it-now Price: 850,000 Gold Coin Private bids are welcome. Inferno Ingame.

Private Bid - 700k

Not at any point did I say I thought their actions were justified, kind, or whatever. I didn't say I appreciated it or thought that they were pro for what they did. I'm saying, they at least admit to it. And as for Hussam who claims all of EL is full of people who do this weekly. That's incorrect. The only real gulid I know that did it was FURY and that was ages ago and most of them are gone. My point is, they tell you pretty much straight up what they're about. Something most people don't. And thusfar i ahven't seen one "reformation" thing from any of them.

I buy RD greave. Inferno ingame.

As douchey as all of this is, I have to have a slight ioda of respect for them. simply because they are proud of what they do and they aren't ashamed to admit it. Way better than a bunch of the more pathetic who do it then claim reform and what not. OR try to hide from what they are.

Ok well the question arouse between me and korrode. It was under my assumption that the bow didn't determine the damage dealt but rather, the armor, ap, level, (WH) determined the damage dealt by a bow. So we are in a bind and are kind of curious and i was wondering what the rest of you have noticed. Korrode and i plan to do some testing but from what I've seen, it could be my eye's playing tricks the bow's do the same amount of damage. One shoots faster of course though and has lower accuracy. Which I knew was determined based upon the bow of your choice. This is just basically a discussion on how damage is determined. Which bow would be better opted etc. Korrode also asked a question maybe some one could answer, perhaps accuracy of the bow determines some sort of damage modifier of some kind. anyway it's just a question / discussion. So I'd love to here opinions etc.

Ahh yes. I killed him probably 3-4 times in KF one day. He rages about it. Then I fight some other people and he says if I loan him COL he'll help me. Needless to say I said no. After hearing a story from another HOLY member I quickly removed him from my guild as he had joined recently and when I asked him about it he ignored my question completely and refused to answer it. so yeah.

I can donate a HS removal. Inferno ingame.

85kgc

Epitaph?

10k silver Inferno

Incorrect. Fuze_ is banned. Str8jacket is not.

Yes Korrode speaks the truth. When people inflate their prices to over NPC price and then complain about the GC it's their own fault. Hell if people actually wanted to buy my HE at 11 per, I'd get them 10-20k a day easy simply by grabbing my mule a friend and muling away. No mixing needed =D.

first off insulting a guy who was proud of his efforts makes you a douche. Second off, how can you claim any of that is 'easy' magic training. Do you realize mana/reagants - it's more cost effective to shield to 30..? Also, let it be known, that restoration will take you to 35 way faster than life Drain. This is coming from someone.. who never used Life Drain to train magic

Mixing FE is not the funniest job in EL. I think the reward of 10K for an EFE that mixers get is nice, and so its worth the efford of mixing FE. With this idea, the price of EFE would go down again, and with that mixers go worst again, and fighters go richer. I dont like the idea Ok, yes it would make mixers worse or w/e. That does not mean fighters are rich. The only money making method anymore is instancing, which helps mixers a LOT considering how frequently we need HE/SR/potions/w/e for killing the mobs and stuff. Yeti isn't profitable much anymore. I break even usually like 3k-4k in gc over (not including bones). but that's like 2 hours of spawn camping for me. Which incase you didn't notice, is way less GC/Hour than a iron/silver/coal harver can make assuming they aren't afk during. Im not a realy experienced Fighter, a/d 80s, but as long from my experience there is not a better way of getting gc. Right now, farming Phantom warriors i get over 10Kgc/Hour. You will say, yes but then the experience sucks!! What is the experience of harving iron/coal/sulphur/etc? From what i read, not from my personal experience, u can make also nice gc by killing DC. Im not so far, but then the exp factor wont b a problem Im thinking about doing a post about Gc/Hour in general. But here just the first points. A mixer can make 1,5K-2K essences/hour. Normal essences sell for 1-2 gc more than ingradients cost. So mixer is also not the best job ever. If u add to this equation, that fighters get the best exp/hour in the game, Why are we still discousing of doing the things easyer for them? Its not enoguth to have the best exp/hour and gc/hour, so that they stil have to get the armors cheaper? As i sayed in my first post, dont like the idea Ok while you can make some decent GC farming Phantoms for their s2e/bones that doesn't necessarily clarify that you have to be a fighter per se. A lot of mixers over time can reach their 70's, which is more than enough really to kill them. Strap on a bp, some augs, a tit long or what ever and they are there for the picking. However, as a DCW trainer myself, I will say that they are not exactly "great" for GC drops. For me they barely cut even. The rare drops on them aren't exactly "amazing" probably less likely than mixing an ELE while making Life Ess. The GC drops aren't exactly high either considering the respawn time and the fact that other than bethel there aren't any real double spawns to "farm" from them. Most people consider Yeti to be the "farming" method. Or ACW. However, considering the crits, fact that we have to train to 130s+, the fact that we usually use dragon gear and a wep, and a the risk of breaking armor you once again break even and then maybe a little more. LORC's which are from what I hear "great exp" also aren't the best of drops and the GC gained from them is minimal. I still don't think there is any happy medium for anyone. If I'd say anything, it might be possible to say that a fighter has it worse off for a long time. A mixer even lowish leveled can mix Fire Ess or Air ess or something which will sell and that's always suitable GC, where as a fighter pushes through loads of training, burning HE, SR, and quite a large variety of things that mixers provide just to get to a point where training is even profitable.

What antisocial person buys HE for over 9gc per Hussam? You are talking out of your head now.

Mixing FE is not the funniest job in EL. I think the reward of 10K for an EFE that mixers get is nice, and so its worth the efford of mixing FE. With this idea, the price of EFE would go down again, and with that mixers go worst again, and fighters go richer. I dont like the idea Ok, yes it would make mixers worse or w/e. That does not mean fighters are rich. The only money making method anymore is instancing, which helps mixers a LOT considering how frequently we need HE/SR/potions/w/e for killing the mobs and stuff. Yeti isn't profitable much anymore. I break even usually like 3k-4k in gc over (not including bones). but that's like 2 hours of spawn camping for me. Which incase you didn't notice, is way less GC/Hour than a iron/silver/coal harver can make assuming they aren't afk during.

I see the problem is that WE can be sold for 7-7,5gc and stones for 3-3.5gc, so why buy gem sander for 10 gc and add food and sell for 22gc, if the mats can be sold for more? And lazy ? I would say then, FE and bars are free, you can harvest everything and mix. Players are asking for items for the manu quest for hours on ch 6. Or make some of the items Trik buy. You know, he do buy some iron shields, weapons ? It's how I have been levelling manu, to level 72, no helms. To buy leather and thread and make helms - it's lazy. I never once mentioned helms in my entire point. Sure, you can make all the bars/ings/etc yourself then manu to sell to trik. Now wait.. let me finish BUT THE PRICE HE PAYS IS LESS THAN THE COST OF THE BARS THEMSELVES. I mean honestly, why would a person in their right money making mind WANT to sell iron shields to trik, when the price comes out to be less than the GC you make from flat out selling the bars themselves. Sure you're method would net a gc effective method for training manu, however you also forget 1. Shields aren't stackable. 2. Shields weigh a ton more than a polished gem of any variety.. Sure there are sinks and there isn't much money in anything high end anymore. However, when it comes right down to it, manu has taken the brute of it all, the one other thing that I might consider worse would be tailoring. Sure we can make rares, while crafters can not.. You mix 1 COL, you can sell it as it's needed. We mix 50 Cutty's and get 1 COTM, almost no one will buy the cutty's. Thus we have 50 39k weapons clogging up inv, and losing all that gold from that... The rare hardly makes up for it at all.

This makes absolutely no freaking sense. What thread is used in Great swords? If we harvested all the ings for the Wolf bars, we'd STILL need to get serp stones thus meaning we'd have to BUY them or just hope by the off chance we get one. Then there comes into count the binding. So rare's needed for a Great sword (lets say jagged saber) for instance. Even if you made everything you could solo, you'd STILL need to get 2 serp stones and a binding. Considering serps are going for 10k, and bindings go for 15k. That's 35kgc right there. Just in rares. Then you sell it for 39k to beat the NPC price. Thus for all that effort and work you make 4k gc

Zamirah his point is the only thing you really have to pay for is the Sanding. The rest of it is up for grabs for free by simply harvesting. Don't knock the idea because you are too lazy to harvest and you wanna go around buying everything. I mean hell if you buy everything.. you're going to lose profit. This however has been a problem for manuer's for quite a while. Players want it cheap, manuer's want to make money, thus giving us some arguments over the armor prices.

I'll be the first to call Bull**** on this one. Hector scammed Radu out of $$ for ingame items. Radu further getting into it lost another 20$. No local police are going to care if you get scammed out of 20, 40, even 200$ over a pixelated game. They just won't do squat.